From glenn.jones at madgex.com  Sat Aug 14 08:01:49 2010
From: glenn.jones at madgex.com (Glenn Jones)
Date: Sat Aug 14 08:03:08 2010
Subject: [uf-dev] HTML5 Time element support and test cases
Message-ID: <36A319113CF910438942741C4727ADFF04AEEFC9@MOBY.Clarence.local>

Hi All

I have added HTML5 Time element support and test cases to UfXtract. 

I built the test cases on my own site rather than the wiki, only because
I was unsure about HTML5 support on the wiki. They are relatively simple
at the moment.

http://ufxtract.com/testsuite/hcard/hcard22.htm
http://ufxtract.com/testsuite/hcalendar/hcalendar14.htm

Please tell me if you think they are wrong in any way.

Glenn Jones 



From andreluis.pt at gmail.com  Sun Aug 15 06:35:34 2010
From: andreluis.pt at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9_Lu=EDs?=)
Date: Sun Aug 15 06:58:53 2010
Subject: [uf-dev] HTML5 Time element support and test cases
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Glenn,

thanks for this. :)

Btw:

>  <time class="bday" datetime="2007-05-01T21:30">1 June 2007</time>

It's a tiny detail, but you're writing June to the user and specifying
May (05) in the @datetime... The parser reads it correctly, but I
don't think you meant for that disparity, though.

Just a heads up... :)

It'd be cool to have a way of reporting conforming tools... having a
form to say "This passed using: __________  version: _____ Tested by:
_______ [submit]" and have it presented in the footer of the page...
:)

Cheers,
--
Andr? Lu?s


On 14 August 2010 16:01, Glenn Jones <glenn.jones@madgex.com> wrote:
> Hi All
>
> I have added HTML5 Time element support and test cases to UfXtract.
>
> I built the test cases on my own site rather than the wiki, only because
> I was unsure about HTML5 support on the wiki. They are relatively simple
> at the moment.
>
> http://ufxtract.com/testsuite/hcard/hcard22.htm
> http://ufxtract.com/testsuite/hcalendar/hcalendar14.htm
>
> Please tell me if you think they are wrong in any way.
>
> Glenn Jones
>
>
>
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> microformats-dev mailing list
> microformats-dev@microformats.org
> http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-dev
>

From tantek at cs.stanford.edu  Sun Aug 15 11:35:29 2010
From: tantek at cs.stanford.edu (=?UTF-8?Q?Tantek_=C3=87elik?=)
Date: Sun Aug 15 11:36:10 2010
Subject: [uf-dev] HTML5 Time element support and test cases
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2010/8/15 Andr? Lu?s <andreluis.pt@gmail.com>:
> Glenn,
>
> thanks for this. :)
>
> Btw:
>
>> ?<time class="bday" datetime="2007-05-01T21:30">1 June 2007</time>
>
> It's a tiny detail, but you're writing June to the user and specifying
> May (05) in the @datetime... The parser reads it correctly, but I
> don't think you meant for that disparity, though.
>
> Just a heads up... :)

Thanks Glenn and Andr? for demonstrating/noting a real world example
of the problem of DRY violation.

Even with the values right next to each other - it's too easy to get them wrong.


This is good timing (so to speak).

I recently wrote up a bunch of suggested improvements for the <time>
element on the WHATWG wiki, both to help reduce such occurrences of
DRY violation, and to work better with microformats in general.

Much of this has been adapting the design and experience we have with
the Value Class Pattern to the <time> element.

http://wiki.whatwg.org/wiki/Time_element#Syntax_improvements_for_reducing_DRY_violations


I've also made a bunch of additional proposals to expand the <time>
element to allow for additional granularities of dates as well - to
help encourage it's use with more time microformatted data:

http://wiki.whatwg.org/wiki/Time_element#Date_granularity


I encourage everyone to please take a look at these proposals, edit
the wiki, and add your opinions, use-cases, etc.

Let's improve HTML5 so that it works even better with microformats.

Thanks,

Tantek

-- 
http://tantek.com/ - I made an HTML5 tutorial! http://tantek.com/html5