<html><body> There is another page on the wiki about value excerpting somewhere besides this one: <a href="http://microformats.org/wiki/hCard#Value_excerpting">http://microformats.org/wiki/hCard#Value_excerpting</a> I don't know where it is, but I saw it at one point. It specifically says that you are only supposed to use child nodes to get the values, NOT descendants. Michael Kaply Firefox Advocate mkaply@us.ibm.com <a href="http://www.kaply.com/weblog/">http://www.kaply.com/weblog/</a> (External Blog) <a href="http://blogs.tap.ibm.com/weblogs/page/mkaply@us.ibm.com">http://blogs.tap.ibm.com/weblogs/page/mkaply@us.ibm.com</a> (Internal Blog)</body></html>