[microformats-discuss] funness -> validator

Jeff Lindsay progrium at gmail.com
Tue Aug 16 16:54:14 PDT 2005

I couldn't get it to show any results for this page:
http://zooibaai.nl/about which I grabbed from the microformat wiki. I
know there's XFN on there, but your validator says otherwise. :P

On 8/16/05, brian suda <brian.suda at gmail.com> wrote:
> Lucas Gonze wrote:
> >On 8/16/05, Tantek Çelik <tantek at cs.stanford.edu> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>On 8/16/05 11:59 AM, "Dr. Ernie Prabhakar" <drernie at opendarwin.org> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>On Aug 16, 2005, at 11:50 AM, Lucas Gonze wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>One thing I'm finding as I go along is that a validator would be
> >>>>intensely useful, because you can (and have to) get pretty creative,
> >>>>and it's hard to be sure that the results are still parseable.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>That's something I wondered about.  Is there a rigorous grammar for
> >>>what is and is not a valid microformat, such that someone -could-
> >>>write a validator?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>The short answer is no, we are still figuring it out.
> >>
> >>
> There was a discussion about some of the pros and cons previously on
> this list
> http://microformats.org/discuss/mail/microformats-discuss/2005-July/000328.html
> The previous list posts go into more detail, but there are several
> things that XMDP cannot do (yet). There is always and on going
> discussion about this topic with new ideas poping-up every once and
> awhile. I won't bore anyone unless they want an indepth description of
> the current state of the XMDP validator and all the
> issue that have slowed development.
> A universal validator would be a golden egg. Once written it could look
> parse any XMDP and validate against it without any prior knowledge of
> the format. Currently, that is impossible, each microformat has some
> sort of data that is unique in some fashion (which is NOT a bad thing,
> but it makes validation more difficult).
> This is the link to a BETA validator, the input/output is pretty ugly,
> but the idea is that you enter a URL and it will be fetched, the <head
> profile=""> parsed. Those URLs are fetched, the XMDPs are passed through
> an XSLT and another dynamic-XSLT is created. Then the new Dynamic-XSLT
> (which encompasses all the profiles you are using) is processed against
> your page and the validation output is displayed.
> http://suda.co.uk/projects/XMDP/
> Currently, it only uses XFN and no-follow (partly because those
> microformats are very flat, no nested elements)
> Feedback is eggargly awaited.
> -brian
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