[uf-discuss] hAtom draft

Sat Dec 3 01:19:43 PST 2005

[I think Charles has covered most of this, but I'll give a quick gloss]

Benjamin Carlyle wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> On Wed, 2005-11-23 at 04:02 -0500, David Janes -- BlogMatrix wrote:
>> Have at it:
>> http://microformats.org/wiki/hatom
> 
> I've had a play at applying this to my weblog[1]. One question I would
> like to ask is about the author field. I currently have my name tagged
> with dc-author and foaf-name on the main page. I think the dc-author is
> non-standard in the body and used in this way. The foaf-name is
> experimental based on a generalised microformat for rdf, which of course
> is not microformat because it is too general.
> 
> I see that hAtom currently recommds the use of a hcard. I could add this
> in as well, but what does a hcard mean when floating around on a web
> page? I'm also uneasy about including a <span class="vcard"></span>
> section in the document. Not all of the relevant information is in one
> place.

I have issues about this too, but it's not required. You are free to do ...
<address>Ben</address>
... and leave it at that.

To address the deeper issue you're getting at, once I'm clear of hAtom, 
I was thinking of pushing the concept of "rel-bookmark" defining the 
"best location for this microformat object". This could be used like this:

<address class="vcard">
  <span class="fn">Benjamin Carlyle</span>,
  <a rel="bookmark" href="http://.../#mycard">My hCard</a>
</address>

> 
> Urrgh. I'm not quite getting this out right, but what is the most
> straightforward way to say "This page and everything in it was authored
> by Benjmain Carlyle"? :)

I think there's been some discussion of this. Maybe something like (?):

<head>
  <link rel="vcard" href="http://.../#mycard" />
</head>

> 
> I don't want to add a URL. Why should I? You're already at my home page.
> I don't want to add an email address, or not a precisely valid one. I
> don't want to attract spam. Technorati has the only photo I display, and
> that is provided by javascript I don't control. I can't directly
> reference it. I just want to quickly make a few assertions and have them
> picked up by a hAtom parser.
> 

or

<address class="vcard">
  <span class="fn">Benjamin Carlyle</span>
</address>

Regards, etc...
David

PS. Extra for hCard experts -- valid or not?

<address class="vcard fn">Benjamin Carlyle</address>