[microformats-discuss] Shouldn't hCard use <address>?

[Tantek Ç elik]

The short answer about <address> is:

1. Yes it is more semantic, but

2. It is *too* specifically semantic for most hCard uses.

The poorly named <address> really means <contact-info-for-this-web-page>

So it only makes sense to use <address> for an hCard *IF* that hCard
represents the contact information for the page.  Hence the usage on my
blog.

Another way of saying this:

Every <address> on a page SHOULD be an hCard.

But not every hCard should be an <address>

I think this question has come up often enough (and I've seen it on some
blogs too) that it deserves top billing in the hcard-faq.  Just created:

 http://microformats.org/wiki/hcard-faq

Thanks,

Tantek


On 6/25/05 4:30 AM, "Bud Gibson" <bud at thecommunityengine.com> wrote:

> Well, the example helps clear up the point.  Probably a good practice
> for moving these conversations along.
> 
> The list is very new.  There is a link to the archive at:
> 
> <http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-discuss/>
> 
> but when I tried it yesterday, it returned a file not found error.
> 
> Ryan, are you the guy to fix that?
> 
> Bud
> On Jun 25, 2005, at 7:21, Robert Bachmann wrote:
> 
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>> Bud Gibson wrote:
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>>> Stephen:
>>> 
>>> You are right that <div>s and <span>s do not imply any special
>>> semantics.  All of that comes in the class (and where relevant rel)
>>> attributes for these elements.
>>> 
>>> The trick to microformats is that they use standard xhtml markup
>>> elements but qualify their meaning
>>> through the class attribute.  This admittedly can be less
>>> powerful  than
>>> going and defining new markup elements (say through a namespace)
>>> that
>>> could then have their own special attributes, etc.  However, by
>>> avoiding namespaces or even defining whole new vocabularies,
>>> microformats remove a lot of barriers to implementation.
>>> Perhaps,  most
>>> importantly, implementers can use markup they are familiar with.
>>> 
>> 
>> I think that Stephen wanted to say that something like e.g:
>> 
>> <address class="vcard">
>>  <a class="url fn" href="http://tantek.com/">
>>   Tantek Çelik
>>  </a>
>>  <div class="org">Technorati</div>
>> </address>
>> 
>> ... is more semantic, than e.g:
>> 
>> <div class="vcard">
>>  <a class="url fn" href="http://tantek.com/">
>>   Tantek Çelik
>>  </a>
>>  <div class="org">Technorati</div>
>> </div>
>> 
>> Robert
>> 
>> P.S:
>> I'm new to this list.
>> Is there an archiv of this malinglist?
>> http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-discuss/
>> links to
>> the non-existing page
>> http://microformats.org/pipermail/microformats-discuss/
>> 
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