[uf-discuss] FYI: Jeff Jarvis on microformats and Google Base
Jon Tan
microformats at gr0w.com
Tue Nov 22 08:14:35 PST 2005
On Tuesday, November 22, 2005 1:56 PM, Scott Reynen wrote:
> Here's what I'd like to see: less talk of the hypothetical revolution
> microformats might usher in, and more actual implementations. [...]
> There's no need for a search engine like Google to get involved. I think
> we should create a large enough base of information that it requires a
> search engines before we waste too much time trying to pressure search
> engines to parse the data.
I also agree that the amount of data in MFs is critical. Yes, by all means
lets get on with implementation, but evangelism and work done are not
mutually exclusive. More talk while the work goes on may even encourage more
work to start.
I agree with Brian Suda. It shouldn't be that difficult for GBase to allow
a, 'file-upload type of XHTML', and a, 'Trackback/ping service' along with
GBase to, 'display the data in
Microformat encoded formats (where applicable).'
>Google wants data to attract searchers. Real data. No amount of
>hypothetical data will attract a search engine, regardless of how well
>that hypothetical data is publicized.
Exactly. So how do you keep the momentum to encourage more real data to be
described using MFs? Surely one target for any given MF is exactly the same
as GBase's: Use of the format to allow users to find and use real data.
Through publicity and understanding more hypothetical data will become
actual data. It's one route to greater implementation among many.
I can't help coming back to the fact that there is real need here that Base
is addressing. I keep coming around to asking what do non-technical users
want, what are their frustrations with their access to data now, today, and
how could the development and implementation of MFs help by responding?
While GBase is collecting data on products, jobs, recipes and services is
there something to learn from that for MFs?
Jon Tan
microformats at gr0w.com
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