[microformats-discuss] Web 2.0: Abused
ryan at technorati.com
Sun Oct 2 11:30:11 PDT 2005
On Oct 1, 2005, at 6:50 PM, Dimitri Glazkov wrote:
> I would be interested to see list's opinion on this article:
> a Web feed is the simplest responses we can receive.
Uh, no. There's still plain text, CVS, etc.
> The utility of RSS results from a characteristic of its markup: it
> is semantic.
Really? What's the description? Is it the content? Or is it a part of
the content? Or is it a description of the content?
But I suppose they're just being nice to to RSS, before advocating XHML.
> Over time, our usage of XHTML has drained it of semantics.
Hmm, I believe it was actually the usage of HTML (2-4) that drained
the markup of its semantics (or, at least, obfuscated them). XHTML is
actually a return to more semantic markup and people who use XHTML
tend to have cleaner, more semantic markup.
And to echo Ernie's comment, they don't really use semantic markup here:
> <span class="title">Web 2.0 Design: Bootstrapping the Social Web</
> <span class="author">Porter, Joshua</span>
> <span class="author">MacManus, Richard</span>
That would be much better as:
<h1 class="title">Web 2.0 Design: Bootstrapping the Social Web</h1>
<address class="author">Porter, Joshua</address>
<address class="author">MacManus, Richard</address>
(and you could probably drop those classnames, too, since the
elements carry similar semantics).
And here they complete the strawman:
> All meaning must come from class names
Which is completely untrue.
> Embedding XML allows for richer data description than using just
> XHTML because developers can define certain elements for whatever
> application they’re creating.
Yay! more tower of Babel problems!
> Despite these difficulties, several new XML formats are gaining
> adoption. One example is Google Sitemaps.
Google Sitemaps != new. They reused a standardized format used by
Other than all those things, its not a *bad* article- I think they
cover the material well (though they miss the details).
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