[microformats-discuss] Re: Educationg Others

[Lisa Rein]

Hi guys,

In my opinion, Scott brings up a lot of good points.

Of particular concern to me is the use of the "rel" link attribute
containing the value "tag."

"rel" and "rev" are specified specifically for directional linking.
These are the values allowed withing that link attribute:
http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/types.html#type-links

Other values are allowed if they are defined with a Profile:

"Authors may wish to define additional link types not described in this
specification. If they do so, they should use a profile to cite the
conventions used to define the link types. Please see the profile
attribute of the HEAD element for more details."

yet the microformat method doesn't seem to use that either.
(unless there is are profiles defined somewhere that I am unaware of -
which is possible, since I'm new to the microformat space :)

Here's is more information from the HTML 4.01 spec about the use of the
"rel" attribute and directional linking:
http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/struct/links.html#h-12.3.1

So, if I am not mistaken, the microformat technique is not XHTML compliant.

Thanks in advance for clarifying the situation if I have misunderstood
something :-)

thanks!

lisa

>> > How long did it take Brian to write, test, and debug the XSL that
>> reads the format?
>> >
>> > http://suda.co.uk/projects/X2V/xhtml2vcal.xsl
>>
>> Work in progress.
>>
>> -ryan
>
> Agreed, it has taken many, many hours to build, but that is partly
> because it has never been done before, we are learning and discovering
> as we build. Another factor is that i don't program in XSLT for a
> living (as you can probably see from the code). The idea behind
> choosing XSLT rather than another language, is that once this is
> finished, it can easily be re-packaged into any language that has an
> XSLT processor. So if you want to do hCa* in PHP, you can create an
> XSLT_PROC() include this file and you are done. I imagine it would be
> just as easy in a multitude of other languages or from the command
> line or scripts with 'xsltproc'.
>
> The hCal and hCard specs have been evolving alot as we slowly solve
> each problem (and there are many). With each itteration the XSLT files
> lose some old code, grow new, and other bits are refactored. I imagine
> it will still be awhile before i declare it no longer in Beta.
>
> I'm not sure if you expected it to be a short time to write or a long
> time, but i can say it is on the latter rather than former.
>
> If anyone is interested in the inner workings, or developing their own
> applications, there is a microformats-dev list where more specific
> questions may be asked, or feel free to email me directly.
>
> -brian
>
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