[admin] Re: [microformats-discuss] Declaring the use of microformats with XHTML

Thu Oct 6 15:09:20 PDT 2005

On 10/6/05 2:39 PM, "Ryan King" <ryan at technorati.com> wrote:

> On Oct 6, 2005, at 1:21 PM, Danny Ayers wrote:
>> On 10/6/05, Joe Gregorio <joe.gregorio at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>>> Already covered by profile URIs.
>>>> 
>>>> See http://gmpg.org/xmdp/
>>> 
>>> Yes, but that doesn't cover the case when there is no <head> element,
>>> for example
>>> when transporting xhtml around via Atom.
>> 
>> Wouldn't it be possible to specify atom:content
>> type="application/xhtml+xml" and insert a headed document?
>> 
>> But I do think a mechanism for identifying any microformats in use in
>> a doc fragment would be very useful, I'm sure plenty of headless
>> content will be passed around in syndication. A way of disambiguating
>> the data is very desirable.
> 
> Hmm, I  haven't looked, but a good solution would be to register
> 'profile' as a rel value at iana. Like I said, I haven't looked to
> see if this has already been done.

Ok, I'll try this again.

These are ALL great points!

I agree that it would be ideal to have a way of <head>lessly declaring the
formal vocabularies of microformats in use.

Like I said:

On 10/6/05 10:04 AM, "Tantek Çelik" <tantek at cs.stanford.edu> wrote:

> I still have about 100 emails regarding that topic to digest and
> attempt to summarize, so don't worry, I haven't forgotten about them.  For
> any additional discussion on rel="profile", I would ask that folks check the
> archives to see what has already been said, and hold off for a bit in the
> hopes I can get that summary/conclusions written up which will hopefully
> answer a bunch of questions.

Thus let's consider this thread closed for the moment until I've had the
chance to do what I said above.  Otherwise we're in for a lot more repeated
circular discussion of the topic.

If anyone else wishes to actually help with the work (i.e. unbottleneck me)
of documenting the issues raised and possible/proposed solutions, please
consider doing so NOT on this mailing list (we've already had so much email
on this topic that people are now repeating the same things over and over
which is not effective use of the list), but instead, start a page on the
wiki.  There are some loosely written thoughts written about XMDP issues/FAQ
on the wiki right now, so feel free to clean that up or add to it, or start
additional more specific pages.

Also, since *so much* has been written on this topic on the email list, part
of the point here is distillation, so consider starting *very* simple with
key high level points.  Don't just cut and paste from the email archives.
Less text is better.  As I make progress on this myself, I'll add/prune
stuff on the wiki.

Thanks,

Tantek