[microformats-discuss] XHTML-REST (WAS: STRUM/DETH)

[Luke Arno]

Here is a nice solid example of a REST protocol:

http://ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-sayre-atompub-protocol-basic-03.txt

REST is a real paradigm shift. I feel so cheesy for saying that, but it is.
It is like learning lisp or some other functional language when one is
used to the procedural perspective. Most of us (by which I mean me)
have method calls ingrained in us very deeply and think most
comfortably in terms of actions and parameters. HTTP is not like that.
The focus is on resources.

Unfortunately I cannot make the dinner. Have fun if you go.

Since the subject is microformats, I wonder if the dishes will be tapas?
(I apologize for my terrible sense of humor.)

- Luke

On 10/12/05, Dr. Ernie Prabhakar <drernie at opendarwin.org> wrote:
> Hi Luke,
>
> Just dereference that link:
>
> >> [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
> >> Representational_State_Transfer#REST_versus_RPC
>
> This is fascinating:
>
> > The OpenSearch initiative from A9.com attempts to standardize
> > searches using REST by establishing specifications for discovery of
> > search URLs and for the format of the resources returned (RSS 2.0
> > with minor extensions). In general, however, REST for data does not
> > yet have a generally-accepted, standard format corresponding to
> > HTML for documents, so each REST client must be custom-written to
> > deal with XML at a fairly low level, and crawling XML data over
> > REST is difficult (since it is not always easy to identify links).
> > Proposals for a standard, generic format for use with REST based
> > systems have included RDF, XTM, Atom, RSS (in its various
> > flavours), and Plain Old XML (POX) with XLink to handle links.
>
> Exactly!  This is the problem I'm trying to solve.  Perhaps they
> might even realize that. In particular:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenSearch
> > RSS and Atom are the only ones formally supported by OpenSearch
> > aggregators, however other types, such as HTML are perfectly
> > acceptable.
> So close, and yet so far. I'm not entirely sure how this fit
> together, but there does seem to be something there...
>
> I'll try my best to make it tomorrow night so we can discuss this
> more in person; though its going to be a bear for me to get to...
>
> Crepes on Cole
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> San Francisco, California 94117
> -- Ernie P.
>
>
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