[uf-discuss] Citation Straw Proposal II

[Ross Singer]

Brian, this is quite impressive.  I particularly like the use of hCard
in this context (although I think it's critical that we use more
granular n attributes -- there are just too many ways to mark up a
citation).

Going into your "unresolved items" -- I see URL being pretty darned
important.  It's going to be difficult, otherwise, to differentiate
between a link to the cited resource or some other generic link that
happens to fall inside the hCite block.

IMG -- Off the top of my head, I don't see much need for this... What
was the inspiration for this?

Author/Editor/Translator should be a priority.  I realize this is more
important in the computer vs. human continuum, but it doesn't seem
/that/ difficult to make it an easy win for both camps.

Does License generally appear in citations?  Granted, I don't find
myself formally citing things very often, but I haven't really run
across this.

isPartOf seems pretty important, as well (or, at least it seems like
it would come up quickly)...  What do people think here?  Would it
refer to another hCite?

Thanks for putting this together, Brian.

-Ross.

On 4/29/06, Brian Suda <brian.suda at gmail.com> wrote:
> I have spent some time reviewing the examples and the formats on the
> wiki. Here is the list of the implied schemas. These are the common
> fields amongst the examples. I then looked at the cross over between
> the real-world examples and the formats and have created a straw
> proposal from that. At the moment it is pretty strict, i only included
> VERY common properties - it is easier to make additions than
> subtractions - so if there is a property that is NOT in the straw
> proposal please speak-up.
>
> implied schema (examples)
> + publisher
> + language
> + description
> + title
> + creator
> + volume
> + issue
> + page
> + edition
> + identifier
> + tags
> + format
> + date published
> + copyright
>  - audience
>
> implied schema (formats)
>  + publisher
>  + language
>  + description
>  + title
>  + creator
>  + volume
>  + pages
>  + edition
>  + issue
>  + identifier
>  + tags
>  + format
>  + date published
>  + date copyrighted
>  - subtitle
>  - image
>  - excerpt
>  - index terms
>  - series title
>  - publication
>  - journal
>  - part (1 of X)
>
> UNION of the two schemas
>  + (PLUS) means common properties
>  - (MINUS) means unique to the schema
>
> Brian's Straw format
> <ul class="bibliography">
>         <li class="citation" xml:lang="en-gb">
>
>                 <!-- publisher data as hCard-->
>                 <div class="publisher vcard">
>                         <span class="fn org">ABC Publishing Co.</span>
>                         <span class="country-name">United Kingdom</span>
>                         ...
>                 </div>
>
>                 <!-- author(s) data as hCard -->
>                 <div class="creator vcard">
>                         <span class="fn">John Doe</span>
>                         ...
>                 </div>
>
>                 <!-- location data -->
>                 <span class="title">Foobar!</span>
>                 <span class="description">World Class Book about foobar</span>
>                 <span class="volume">1</span>
>                 <span class="issue">1</span>
>                 <span class="edition">1</span>
>                 <span class="pages">1-10</span>
>                 <span class="format">article</span>
>
>                 <!-- differed to the UID debate -->
>                 <span class="identifier">12345678</span>
>
>                 <!-- keywords -->
>                 <span class="keyword">foo</span>
>                 <span class="keyword">bar</span>
>
>                 <!-- date properties -->
>                 Published <abbr class="dtpublished" title="20060101">January 1st 1006</abbr>
>                 Copyright <abbr class="copyright" title="20060101">2006</abbr>
>         </li>
>         ...
> </ul>
>
> <p class="citation">Have you read <span class="title"><abbr
> title="book" class="format">Foo Bar</abbr></span>?
> It was written by <span class="author vcard"><span class="fn">John
> Doe</span></span>.
> It only came out a <abbr class="dtpublished" title="20060101">few
> months ago</abbr></p>
>
> FIELDS THAT MIGHT BE IMPORTANT, BUT WERE NOT IN BOTH IMPLIED SCHEMAS
> - URL (this is probably do to several examples of older citation
> formats not having URLs, is this important or can identifier handle
> this property?)
> - IMAGE (not sure what this would be an image of, but HTML has <img>
> element, so it could be of use? Does it help to cite something?)
>
> - AUTHOR, EDITOR, TRANSLATOR, etc. At the moment these are all lumped
> into 'creator' which will need to be expanded as appropriate. Probably
> (author | editor )
> - ABSTRACT, NOTES, EXCEPT, etc. At the moment these are lumped into
> 'description'
>
> - Difference between COPYRIGHT and LICENSE, currently citation
> copyright is a date-time, license would be the TYPE. License is NOT
> accounted for.
>
> - IsPartOf is another property that has been discussed which is not represented.
>
> - Other properties like 'audience' are in some formats (DC) but were
> not common enough to be considered in the format schema.
>
> Overall this straw format is on the minimal side, so lets review this
> and see what needs to be addressed and how to do so.
>
> i have added the straw proposal to the wiki[1], so feel free to make
> changes/suggestions there.
>
> -brian
>
> [1] - http://microformats.org/wiki/citation-brainstorming#Brian.27s_Straw_format
>
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> brian suda
> http://suda.co.uk
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