class="hack"? Re: [uf-discuss] Comments from IBM/Lotus rep about Microformats

Dr. Ernie Prabhakar drernie at
Fri Dec 8 14:54:11 PST 2006

Hi Bruce,

> My point, Ernie, is there's no obvious way to map it onto a model. I

Um, maybe I'm not quite understanding what you mean by "model". Are  
you saying that there's no way to create a generic parser that  
transforms the microformatted data into a normalized form?

What you may not realize (I didn't at first either) is that is -- by *definition* -- optimizing for a world  
there are only a "handful" of discrete microformats.  Thus, there is  
no point in worrying about the general case; there are only special  
cases, and a relatively small number of those.

You may not believe or agree with that definition (not all of us do  
either :-), but that's the rules we play by here.  If you want a more  
generic approach, you might be happier with GRDDL.

-- Ernie P.

On Dec 8, 2006, at 2:11 PM, Bruce D'Arcus wrote:

> On 12/8/06, Dr. Ernie Prabhakar <drernie at> wrote:
>> On Dec 8, 2006, at 4:04 AM, Bruce D'Arcus wrote:
>> > Likewise, using class to indicate both properties and, um,  
>> class, is
>> > also a hack.
>> I think that's probably where we part company.   I suspect most of us
>> here consider the use of HTML "class" for semantic information fully
>> in line with the both the letter and spirit of the spec, and thus an
>> entirely natural usage.
> My point, Ernie, is there's no obvious way to map it onto a model. I
> don't think that's such a controversial thing to say. We've got tables
> and columns (RDBMSes), resources and properties (RDF), objects and
> attributes (oo). Class and ... ?
> Bruce
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