[uf-discuss] proposal for grants microformat (hGrant)
Eugene Eric Kim
eekim at blueoxen.com
Thu Dec 21 13:41:26 PST 2006
Christopher St John wrote:
> I've been doing some work with software designed to make it easy for
> foundations to get on the web, so I'm definitely interested. But... the
> whole microformats thing will be much less painful if you become
> familiar with "The Process" as soon as possible.
I'm familiar with the process. I read this well in advance of even
broaching this discussion with foundations, and I have links to published
examples, which I will post to the Wiki if there are no objections. For
http://www.mott.org/about/programs/grantrssfeed.aspx (RSS link; they
also have HTML)
I've also read most of the Wiki, and I've been lurking on this list for
> The first thing you should know is that The Process only works (and
> thus microformats can only exist for) things that are already commonly
> published on the web. You can't make something up in advance of
> broad usage and call it a microformat. This is very strong constraint,
> and means that many things that might make good semantic markup
> are not eligible to be a microformat. This is frustrating, but brings some
> very real benefits.
Understood. Like I said, there are foundations that publish grants
information. Whether this information is "commonly published" is another
matter. What's the right scale before it's worth putting together a
microformat? Three of the largest foundations -- Gates, Hewlett, and
Mott -- representing $40 billion in endowments publish grants
information. If we can convince these three to start using a
microformat, other foundations will follow suit. All three and others
are part of the conversation.
> On 12/20/06, Eugene Eric Kim <eekim at blueoxen.com> wrote:
>> The real opportunity, in my opinion, is
>> working with smaller, community and family foundations. With a critical
>> mass of grants information published in hGrant, we could build an
>> aggregator for searching, tagging, and studying this data.
> Do any of the smaller foundations currently publish any information
> on the web, in whatever format?
Most family foundations don't even have web sites. The microformat is
part of a larger initiative to encourage all foundations to become more
> Good luck! Enabling a grant ecosystem that requires less manual
> data entry would be very nifty.
Thanks! I'd love to hear more about your software project (perhaps
off-list), and I'd love any feedback you and others could provide to help
make this a reality.
Eugene Eric Kim ................................... http://xri.net/=eekim
Blue Oxen Associates ........................... http://www.blueoxen.com/
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