[uf-discuss] be it resolved: irc chat logs deserve their own microformat

Chris Messina chris.messina at gmail.com
Thu Feb 2 14:49:49 PST 2006

I think in general that Tantek had conversations pegged with the
original example using <q> <cite> and <blockquote>. Through in some
hCal conventions and hCard to mark up the speaker, and we've got
ourselves something nearly complete, using existing microformats.

It's true that we're missing the enter/exit actions... as well as
things like changing the topic, addressing comments to someone in IRC
(though that could just be a regular quotation), etc.

I'm going to add a couple more examples to the page, but it does seem
like there's a good case for a conversations microformat that
addresses transcripts of instant and/or phone conversations.

While we're at it, take a look at what Kent Bye has done "Dynamically
Creating Sound Bite Sequences with SMIL & Drupal":


If we could markup his snippets in this conversation format, we could
tie an IRC backchannel directly to QT playback. Wouldn't that be


On 2/2/06, Christopher St John <ckstjohn at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 2/2/06, Ryan King <ryan at technorati.com> wrote:
> > On Feb 1, 2006, at 8:05 PM, Christopher St John wrote:
> > > ...
> > > Non-IRC conversations[1] are potentially much closer.
> > >
> > > [1] http://kitta.net/2006/02/01/i-am-heartbroken/
> >
> > Not to be pendantic, but that actually *is* an example of an IRC
> > conversation. Don't let the cute girl fool you.
> >
> My thought was that although the source of the data might have
> been an IRC/IM chat session, it was being presented in the same
> way a phone or in-person conversation might be presented.
> I suspect there's a more general "conversation" principle at
> work somewhere here, which is one of the reasons I like the
> microformats way : it's ok to not do something general.
> Should it go up on the examples page, maybe with a note saying
> that some think it's an edge case?
> -cks
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