[uf-discuss] citation microformat?

Edward Vielmetti edward.vielmetti at gmail.com
Wed Jan 18 17:53:48 PST 2006

I added to the cite-examples page the output
from one routine in the zoom and zmarc part
of PyZ3950 which puts out the citation using
Dublin Core (DC) elements only.


If you want to blame citations for being complicated,
you can go all the way back to the MARC standard,
which has a zillion fields and subfields each with
their own local, national, and international semantics.
Hairball soup.

If anyone wants to collaborate with me on producing
working examples of cites from python and library
catalogs, give me a shout, I will point you to all
the code I know about.  (and then I'll write it up
somewhere - but you have to ask).


ps. sorry for not sending text/plain to the list yesterday,
my bad.

pps.  MARC is so bad that it doesn't even do Unicode,
so there are some hairy character set issues to deal
with.  whee.

ppps.  Z39.50 uses ASN.1 and BER.  a blast from the
past.  be glad the libraries hide all that.


On 1/18/06, Ed Summers <ehs at pobox.com> wrote:
> On 1/17/06, Tantek Çelik <tantek at cs.stanford.edu> wrote:
> > Who knew you could make a citation so complicated?
> Library professionals--who are partly responsible :-) Wouldn't it be
> nice if there were an analog in the print world to the <a href="...">
> in the web world? Don't citations in the print world really act just
> like links?
> But wait...this is what openurl is and does for many libraries--and it
> is (arguably) the iCalendar of print citations. OpenURL itself is a
> pretty hairy standard, but it provides a simple list of keys that
> could easily be used in a microformat. Here are the ones for books
> [1].
> > Nonetheless, they should provide good material for harvesting for a simple
> > 80/20 cite microformat based on actual examples published on the Web.
> There are actually some decent examples already [2]. Perhaps these
> were just added? Assuming that these examples are good would it be
> acceptable to go about marking up each example with microformatted
> versions of openurl, docbook and bibtex and see how that works? I'm a
> bit confused about next steps.
> //Ed
> [1] http://alcme.oclc.org/openurl/servlet/OAIHandler/extension?verb=GetMetadata&metadataPrefix=mtx&identifier=info:ofi/fmt:kev:mtx:book
> [2] http://www.microformats.com/wiki/cite-examples
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