[uf-discuss] plays, skits & scripts

Greg Elin greg at fotonotes.net
Tue Jan 31 21:55:21 PST 2006

I am very bullish on this idea.

For the past several years, I've had the opportunity to work with a  
web-based chat system, ARSC, at a number of conferences. We've had  
certain problems with scale, but overall the feedback was always  
great. A chat based-system is easier for many people to get started.

I also has the chance to work on an Attention Stream at Etech 2005  
and am looking into an extension of the concept in 2006.
Attention Stream - http://www.duhblog.com/space/start/2005-03-14/1
In Room Chat (article by Clay Shirky) - http://www.openp2p.com/pub/a/ 

There is also some work by friends at Woods Hole Oceanographic  
Institute for capturing streaming data/video/etc which does a great  
job of recording streaming data.

1. Scroll left menu and select Hawaii2002
2. Click "Enter Jason Control Van"

I really want to sit at a conference and be able to just grab  
elements of a video stream -- screen grab the conference -- and  
record in my own notes.

Greg Elin

On Jan 31, 2006, at 8:10 PM, Chris Messina wrote:

> _Actually_... here's what I want... ready, get this?
> So we had this idea at Mash Pit Dallas for improving remote
> participation at events. One of the obvious things that we need is
> better access to the IRC back channel(s). A further idea is syncing up
> the IRC channel with video streams.
> Anyway, I *don't* want a lame IRC client for the browser. In my
> experience, they're slow, crash a lot and don't really do what you'd
> expect -- and most mortals have no idea how to get a nic and yada
> yada. So the idea we came up with is based on the Digg Spy
> (http://digg.com/spy) with scrolling headlines... except, we'd be
> pushing the backchannel via AJAX and making it look all pretty and
> flowy. Want to join the conversation? Great, jump in using a dedicated
> client.
> Anyway, the point of my bringing this up is to explore what CKS
> brought up earlier: the need for a "chat" microformat.
> With all kind of archived IRC logs on the web, you'd think we'd have a
> rich resource to draw examples from -- and perhaps we do.
> So what I think we can get out of the current discussion about plays
> and whatnot is a mapping to the chat context, where there area
> speakers and "lines". Given that, I think that using the DL approach
> makes more sense than ever. You're not dealing with P's... you're
> dealing with a speaker and they are defined by what they say -- eh eh,
> how's that one for ya?
> Chris
> On 1/31/06, Chris Messina <chris.messina at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Taking a look at one of the examples, I wonder if you could use  
>> traditional mFs?
>>   <SPEAKER>Soothsayer</SPEAKER>
>>   <LINE>You shall be yet far fairer than you are.</LINE>
>> </SPEECH>
>> to begin, could be translated into XOXO with a little cite/q:
>> <dl class="speech">
>>   <dt class="speaker"><cite>Soothsayer</cite></dt>
>>   <dd class="lines"><q>You shall be yet far fairer than you are.</ 
>> q></dd>
>> </dl>
>> Then again, I just took a glance, so maybe this is the proposal  
>> that's
>> been offered... anyway
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