[uf-discuss] plays, skits & scripts

[Chris Messina]

Huh, well now it's just a matter of actually mocking something up eh?

I wonder than if we're going to be semantic purists and not use
definition lists than what should we use? Ordered lists perhaps? I
just don't think using paragraphs makes any sense, especially since
each speaker very likely will have multiple paragraphs of prose.

Greg -- I knew someone who went to Woods Hole -- and that site is
really quite interesting and somewhat similar (though obviously more
technical looking) than what I had envisioned!

Chris

On 1/31/06, Greg Elin <greg at fotonotes.net> wrote:
> I am very bullish on this idea.
>
> For the past several years, I've had the opportunity to work with a
> web-based chat system, ARSC, at a number of conferences. We've had
> certain problems with scale, but overall the feedback was always
> great. A chat based-system is easier for many people to get started.
>
> I also has the chance to work on an Attention Stream at Etech 2005
> and am looking into an extension of the concept in 2006.
> Attention Stream - http://www.duhblog.com/space/start/2005-03-14/1
> In Room Chat (article by Clay Shirky) - http://www.openp2p.com/pub/a/
> p2p/2002/12/26/inroom_chat.html
>
> There is also some work by friends at Woods Hole Oceanographic
> Institute for capturing streaming data/video/etc which does a great
> job of recording streaming data.
>
> http://4dgeo.whoi.edu/virtualvan/
> 1. Scroll left menu and select Hawaii2002
> 2. Click "Enter Jason Control Van"
>
> I really want to sit at a conference and be able to just grab
> elements of a video stream -- screen grab the conference -- and
> record in my own notes.
>
> Greg Elin
>
>
> On Jan 31, 2006, at 8:10 PM, Chris Messina wrote:
>
> > _Actually_... here's what I want... ready, get this?
> >
> > So we had this idea at Mash Pit Dallas for improving remote
> > participation at events. One of the obvious things that we need is
> > better access to the IRC back channel(s). A further idea is syncing up
> > the IRC channel with video streams.
> >
> > Anyway, I *don't* want a lame IRC client for the browser. In my
> > experience, they're slow, crash a lot and don't really do what you'd
> > expect -- and most mortals have no idea how to get a nic and yada
> > yada. So the idea we came up with is based on the Digg Spy
> > (http://digg.com/spy) with scrolling headlines... except, we'd be
> > pushing the backchannel via AJAX and making it look all pretty and
> > flowy. Want to join the conversation? Great, jump in using a dedicated
> > client.
> >
> > Anyway, the point of my bringing this up is to explore what CKS
> > brought up earlier: the need for a "chat" microformat.
> >
> > With all kind of archived IRC logs on the web, you'd think we'd have a
> > rich resource to draw examples from -- and perhaps we do.
> >
> > So what I think we can get out of the current discussion about plays
> > and whatnot is a mapping to the chat context, where there area
> > speakers and "lines". Given that, I think that using the DL approach
> > makes more sense than ever. You're not dealing with P's... you're
> > dealing with a speaker and they are defined by what they say -- eh eh,
> > how's that one for ya?
> >
> > Chris
> >
> >
> > On 1/31/06, Chris Messina <chris.messina at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Taking a look at one of the examples, I wonder if you could use
> >> traditional mFs?
> >>
> >> <SPEECH>
> >>   <SPEAKER>Soothsayer</SPEAKER>
> >>   <LINE>You shall be yet far fairer than you are.</LINE>
> >> </SPEECH>
> >>
> >> to begin, could be translated into XOXO with a little cite/q:
> >>
> >> <dl class="speech">
> >>   <dt class="speaker"><cite>Soothsayer</cite></dt>
> >>   <dd class="lines"><q>You shall be yet far fairer than you are.</
> >> q></dd>
> >> </dl>
> >>
> >> Then again, I just took a glance, so maybe this is the proposal
> >> that's
> >> been offered... anyway
> >>
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