[uf-discuss] origin of class attribute approach in microformats ?
Tantek Ç elik
tantek at cs.stanford.edu
Sun Jul 23 22:17:29 PDT 2006
On 7/23/06 5:22 PM, "Karl Dubost" <karl at w3.org> wrote:
> Le 22 juil. 06 à 08:35, Guillaume Lebleu a écrit :
>> why the approach has evolved to become the following "class
>> instead of the following mixed-namespace approach:
>> Both approaches work fine in a browser (firefox at least), and both
>> approaches could be generated from the same XML. But having an XML
>> background I see that the second approach has the following
> It depends on the Web community you are talking to and then the type
> of applications and tools. In the paradigm of Web authors and Web
> designers, the Web community has a better understanding of class
> names because they are used to it.
All of this is certainly true.
> In some other Web communities, it will be the opposite, people will
> have a better grip on XML namespaces, and schemas.
With all due respect, there is very little intersection between the people
that have a better understanding of XML namespaces and schemas, and actual
use of that understanding to publish *content* with XML namespaces and
schemas on *the Web*. There's tons of usage with proprietary APIs, and tons
behind the firewall with proprietary one-off custom apps, but nearly none
(certainly in comparison to HTML publishing) in terms of *content*
publishing on the public *Web*.
That's the difference in this community.
The focus on *content* on the *public* *Web*.
> So it's really a question of community of practices. The more
> important is to find bridges when it's possible.
I actually disagree with this quite strongly.
In short "building bridges" is code for neo-political-correctness that
socially appeals to many, but has nothing to do with science and the
To put it another way: Why is it important to build bridges to failures?
In science, when a theory fails and is discredited, scientists don't talk
about "building bridges" between failed theories and working theories.
Rather, the evolution of science *depends* on rigorously refuting and
putting to rest bad ideas. Not building bridges to them.
> The rest turns
> always in religious debates, which are pointless.
Which is why they are off-topic in this forum.
We're here to get real and get things done. Not argue about theoretical
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