[uf-discuss] Book Contents Format

Tantek Ç elik tantek at cs.stanford.edu
Thu Jun 22 07:54:46 PDT 2006

Thanks Ross.

Could you add that to the book-formats page?




On 6/21/06 5:47 PM, "Ross Singer" <ross.singer at library.gatech.edu> wrote:

> There might be something gleaned from TEI:
> http://www.tei-c.org/
> Maybe not.
> -Ross.
> On 6/21/06, Tantek Çelik <tantek at cs.stanford.edu> wrote:
>> On 6/21/06 2:33 PM, "Scott Reynen" <scott at randomchaos.com> wrote:
>>> On Jun 21, 2006, at 4:24 PM, Alex Ezell wrote:
>>>> That is, this is not to describe something like the Table of Contents,
>>>> but actually structure each chapter or section or what have you. It
>>>> seems that Project Gutenberg and the Distributed Proofreaders may be
>>>> the leading edge on this front, but I thought that the microformatters
>>>> would be a good place to start as well.
>>>> I checked the wiki and the info was sparse, so I thought the mailing
>>>> list readers might have more info tucked away on blogs somewhere.
>>> I assume you've seen these pages:
>>> http://microformats.org/wiki/book-brainstorming
>>> http://microformats.org/wiki/book-examples
>>> http://microformats.org/wiki/book-formats
>>> I suspect the wiki is sparse because there aren't many real world
>>> examples from which to draw semantics.  There are two examples on the
>>> examples page and one points to bibliography markup for a plain-text
>>> book (as I believe all Project Gutenberg books are).  So that leaves
>>> us with only one example from which to draw semantics
>> That's not quite accurate.  You can't dismiss the Project Gutenberg books
>> because although they don't use angle brackets, their use of standardized
>> whitespace and punctuation to represent various book semantics is a markup
>> format of sorts and thus still quite useful from a implied schema research
>> perspective.
>>> prompting the
>>> question: is there really a need for such a microformat?
>> It's an interesting question, especially since a particular proposed book
>> microformat (boom!) has been used to actually markup and *publish* a real
>> physical book.
>> http://www.alistapart.com/articles/boom
>> Back when Håkon started working on "boom", I gave him a bit of leeway, for
>> various reasons:
>> <http://microformats.org/discuss/mail/microformats-discuss/2006-January/0028
>> 70.html>
>> Suffice it to say that much of the microformats principles and process I
>> have derived and designed from what I learned from Håkon. His instincts tend
>> to be quite good.  That said, I am still asking Håkon to go through the
>> process with research of pre-existing formats, and naming of class names to
>> reuse and take advantage of existing formats.
>> Thanks,
>> Tantek
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