[uf-discuss] Re: Thoughts on MF & Wiki

Eran limbo at actcom.co.il
Mon Mar 27 22:55:04 PST 2006


You might want to look at Assaf's textTags at
http://trac.labnotes.org/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/wiki/TextagsPlugin

textTags use templates to turn text like

tag: FOO 

To:

<a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/FOO" rel="tag" class="tag">FOO</a>

Check out the trac page for more complex samples using hEvent.

Eran

> -----Original Message-----
> From: microformats-discuss-bounces at microformats.org 
> [mailto:microformats-discuss-bounces at microformats.org] On 
> Behalf Of Chris Messina
> Sent: Monday, March 27, 2006 1:13 PM
> To: David Weekly
> Cc: Tara Hunt; Microformats Discuss
> Subject: [uf-discuss] Re: Thoughts on MF & Wiki
> 
> For you example, consider this (behold, the power of community wikis):
> 
> Take: "We're meeting at Gordon Biersch at 10:30 tomorrow - be there!"
> 
> Change to: We're meeting at
> [Event: Gordon Biersch at 10:30 tomorrow] - be there!"
> 
> The wiki can both parse that information (like 30boxes) but 
> can also create a temporary event listing that other people 
> can come and garden later. If they don't, that's fine, the 
> HTML output can still be generic to show approximately what 
> content on the page is an event.
> 
> What do you think about that general method? There's instant 
> benefit (the text would be added to a calendar of some sort, 
> some processing might occur, and it's added to a list that 
> can be gardened later)?
> 
> Chris
> 
> On 3/27/06, David Weekly <david at weekly.org> wrote:
> > > First, writing microformats should be 1. invisible. 2. useful.
> >
> > Much agreed on both.
> >
> > The problem I see might be more fundamental, though. Unless 
> people see 
> > a benefit to writing in a more structured way (vs "We're meeting at 
> > Gordon Biersch at 10:30 tomorrow - be there!"), they're 
> probably not 
> > going to. Asking users to formalize their speech is an endeavor not 
> > likely to succeed.
> >
> > Success will come from tools/widgets that make it as fast 
> or faster to 
> > drop in the essence of what is being done (add a meeting at Gordon 
> > Bierch for 10:30pm the next day), giving some direct benefit to the 
> > user (adding it to the wiki calendar) while quietly 
> dropping in the MF 
> > code.
> >
> > Asking users to even put in something that's transformable 
> to MF still 
> > requires structure that is antithetical to wiki-ness.
> >
> > > Therefore, if the wiki knows about a contact, it should 
> autocomplete 
> > > a vcard for me.
> >
> > Automated things like this (recognizing email addresses for 
> which more 
> > information is known) absolutely should offer more information 
> > whereever they can.
> >
> > -D
> >
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