[uf-discuss] Citation format straw proposal on the wiki

[C. Hudley]

On 3/30/06, Tim White <tjameswhite at yahoo.com> wrote:
> 2) "Adapted to current behaviors and usage patterns."
> Microformats are suppose to be modeled on what people are currently
> doing (80/20) on the web. I think of it in terms of the Everyman/woman.
> Capturing metadata isn't what is happening by the 80. Look at the
> examples collected on the wiki, very little metadata if any.
> (http://microformats.org/wiki/citation-examples -- look to the Implied
> Schema section)

Earlier in this thread I stated that many of these examples are
exactly the opposite of what we're trying to do -- they violate the
useful and precise distinction indicated on the cite-brainstorming
page between "content at hand" and "what's referenced by but external
to what's at hand" in that they represent the former, not the latter.

I'll repeat my offer to augment or replace those with examples of
cited references from a variety of extremely heavily-used-worldwide
online publications.  You will find even less markup there, which
makes your point much stronger yet much less convincing.

The library community (such as it is... there are about three of us in
here, so far as I can tell) isn't after something to replace the
existing standards.  We simply want to help ensure that the insight
professed by this statement:

  "Better to leverage all the hard work that others have done before
you, than to go off as a solo cowboy inventor, and waste time
repeating all their mistakes."

...needn't be proven accurate yet again here.

And, to try to ensure that hCite can usefully interact with the
infrastructure we've built.