[uf-discuss] Extracting N from hCard (was: Citation Straw Proposal II)

[Tantek Ç elik]

Brian is correct.

In addition, semantically the "author" isn't just a *name*,  the author is a
*person*, and the microformat for a person is hCard.  That's why we are
using hCard there.

If however, you wanted to reuse "fn" for the name of the work being cited, I
could see a case being made for extracting "fn" for that reason, e.g.

<div class="citation">
    <span class="fn">The Book of Ryan</span>
    <span class="author vcard">
        <span class="fn">Ryan Cannon</span>
    </span>
</div>

Thanks,

Tantek


On 5/1/06 3:39 PM, "brian suda" <brian.suda at gmail.com> wrote:

> I think alot of people get confused, but when we are using microformats
> within other microformats, we are not limiting what properties can be
> used. So while your example is correct, it can easily be expanded to
> encompass all of the hCard micforomats.
> 
> <div class="citation">
>   <span class="title">The Book of Ryan</span>
>   <span class="author-name vcard">
>       <!-- any valid hcard property here -->
>       <span class="fn n"><span class="given-name">Ryan</span> <span
> class="family-name nickname"><span
> class="sort-string">C</span>annon</span></span>
>       <span class="role">Interactive Developer</span>
>       <span class="org">MSI Student, School of Information
> University of Michigan</span>
>      </span>
> </div>
> 
> I don't think it needs to be generalized or reduced any further. FN/N is
> basically the minimum of a vcard already, there is not much more to
> "reduce" out it of it into its own format.
> 
> -brian
> 
> Ryan Cannon wrote:
>> I added this to the Straw Proposals section of the Wiki, but I'm
>> wondering if we need to create a general name microformat for use
>> across formats. The problem with citations and author names is that we
>> have to do:
>> 
>> <div class="citation">
>>     <span class="title">The Book of Ryan</span>
>>     <span class="author-name vcard">
>>         <span class="fn">Ryan Cannon</span>
>>     </span>
>> </div>
>> 
>> Adding extra markup.
>> 
>> I see two solutions to this:
>>   - Extracting N/FN properties into their own microformat
>>   - Creating an implied optimization, such that if a vCard contains no
>> other properties,
>>     it implies "fn" to all text within.
>> 
>> I like the second solution better.
>> --Ryan Cannon
>> 
>> Interactive Developer
>> MSI Student, School of Information
>> University of Michigan
>> http://RyanCannon.com/
>> 
>> 
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