[uf-discuss] CFP microformat?

Tantek Ç elik tantek at cs.stanford.edu
Sat May 20 12:03:46 PDT 2006


Yes, go ahead and document the examples, even if it is not as likely to turn
into a microformat.  Document the thoughts around how applicable it might be
(general vs. niche).

You will have at least help bring together the research that someone might
use in the future.  In addition, I have a feeling this won't be the only
time someone might propose formatting CFPs, and any future proposer can at
least build on your research.

In addition, it is worth documenting Ryan's event+todo brainstorm
suggestion.

Thanks,

Tantek


On 5/20/06 11:42 AM, "Michael McCracken" <michael.mccracken at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi, I agree that it's a pretty niche idea, especially since many
> disciplines don't place as much importance on conference publications
> as computer science does.
> 
> I'll share the examples I had, but should I do this on the wiki if
> it's not as likely to turn into a microformat?
> 
> -mike
> 
> On 5/19/06, Tantek Çelik <tantek at cs.stanford.edu> wrote:
>> Hi Mike,
>> 
>> While this is starting to feel less like a general (80%) and more like a
>> vertical (20%) application/use case, having had to deal with CFPs myself,
>> I'm certainly sympathetic.
>> 
>> I'd say to start with, compile a list of URLs to examples of CFPs on the web
>> so we can start to document the actual common elements in use in real-world
>> CFPs.
>> 
>> Whether or not we end up with a microformat, documenting common CFP
>> publishing behaviors is likely to be beneficial.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Tantek
>> 
>> 
>> On 5/19/06 5:24 PM, "Michael McCracken" <michael.mccracken at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all, I'd like to start some discussion into a call-for-papers
>>> microformat.
>>> 
>>> Here's the problem to solve:
>>> 
>>> Publications at conferences are important for many academics' careers.
>>> Keeping track of submission and event dates and locations - and time
>>> zones - is important. Doing that  with less effort would be a big
>>> improvement. Right now most CFP's are distributed by email and posted
>>> on the conference web site in a lightly marked-up version of the
>>> email. Possibly the most common way to find out about conference
>>> details is to forwarded a CFP email by one's advisor, who gets spammed
>>> regularly with those emails. There are problems with that system -
>>> email loss, no good filter (there are bogus conferences), checking for
>>> deadline updates is common, and manual.
>>> 
>>> A microformat to mark up calls for papers could make it easier for
>>> authors to find conferences they're interested in, keep track of them,
>>> and plan publications. It could make it much easier to publicize
>>> conferences, which now involves manually* submitting to various
>>> databases and finding appropriate mailing lists to spam.
>>> 
>>> I already have a few examples and some notes on what they have in
>>> common - it's not too complex - but I wanted to put this idea out
>>> before I went ahead and created a wiki page, in case someone can
>>> suggest a more general solution that would work better.
>>> 
>>> One note is that it certainly isn't just an hEvent - a CFP usually
>>> contains at least a description, a list of related topic keywords, at
>>> least two date ranges, and information about several people and
>>> institutions.
>>> 
>>> So, what do you think, folks?
>>> -mike
>>> 
>>> * "manually" in this context may just mean "manually telling your grad
>>> students to do it", but still...
>> 
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