[uf-discuss] Currency Quickpoll: Preliminary results
Mike Schinkel
mikeschinkel at gmail.com
Thu Oct 12 23:02:29 PDT 2006
Thanks for considering my input. As for "money" vs. "currency" for some
intangible reason I prefer currency, maybe because currency datatype always
seemed more natural than money data type in programming, but I don't prefer
it strongly enough to argue the point! :)
P.S. I added my vote to your poll, but only selected three of eight thinking
the rest shouldn't be included.
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[mailto:microformats-discuss-bounces at microformats.org] On Behalf Of
Guillaume Lebleu
Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 1:28 AM
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Subject: Re: [uf-discuss] Currency Quickpoll: Preliminary results
Mike Schinkel wrote:
>This is a naïve question: Doesn't the ISO 4217 code *imply* a symbol?
>It appears so here: http://www.xe.com/symbols.htm Doesn't including
>this in the microformat create redundancy?
>
>Alternately, can't the symbols be extracted as not being alphanumeric
>characters?
>
I tend to agree with you and see this as a bit redundant, but I felt I would
reproduce the suggestion for the sake of not ignoring anyone's in the vote.
>
>I wouldn't have guessed that meaning; I thought your were talking
worldwide,
>not document scope. :) So how would you mark up
>http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/dnav/pet/pet_pri_spt_s1_d.htm ? Can you show the
>actual HTML to help me better understand? (not for the entire file, just a
>snippet.)
>
One solution is to use the include-pattern only; another solution is to
use the th scope only (if the currency is present in the column header),
or a combination of the two:
amounts in <span id="#u1" class="currency">USD</span>.
...
<tr>
<th scope="col">price<a href="#u1" class="include"></a></th>
<td>24</td>
</tr>
>If so, wouldn't that argue for "combination with
>units (ex. $34 per gallon, $2 per miles)" being out of scope and begging
the
>need for a microformat that allows unit designation, i.e. hUnits?
>
>
We came to the same conclusion. A separate measure effort was started:
http://microformats.org/wiki/measure
>Anyway, I made a proposal here:
>http://microformats.org/wiki/currency-brainstorming#Mike_Schinkel with the
>idea of trying to minimize the burden placed on the author of the HTML, and
>only use lots of markup in the exceptional cases.
>
>
>
You have some good points there. That said, I think that currency should
not be the root class, money should be, since semantically (to me) $35
is not a currency, it is money, and currency is part of money. But I see
the benefits of briefness.
>My last thought on the subject, is why are we using full names for currency
>and amount instead of "cur" and "amt" to minimize bloat when hCard uses
>names like "fn?"
>
>
Good point too.
I will try to document the different options presented over the last
days. It does not seem that we will get a 100% on all feature
implementations, so I guess it will be up for the community to decide
through a vote, or limit the feature scope to what is 100% agreed,
namely currency disambiguation.
Thank you,
Guillaume
>
>
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