[uf-discuss] Size considerations

Benjamin West bewest at gmail.com
Wed Oct 18 14:17:44 PDT 2006

Added to the wiki: http://microformats.org/wiki/faq#Class_semantics

Q. How will microformat class names impact page size?

A. You probably won't notice any impact on page size when authoring
with microformats. Our experience is that people use comparably sized
class names, and semantic class names are now considered an industry
best practice. Some sites are successfully publishing millions of
microformats, and we haven't heard any complaints yet. You are more
likely to gain space savings by more fully adopting the principles of
microformats [TODO: Add link to microformats principles.], and
eliminating tables for layout. [TODO: Consider creating a new section
for web authoring tips? Or at least linking to another site that
advocates good authorship. ]

On 10/18/06, Charles Roper <reachme at charlesroper.co.uk> wrote:
> Scott Reynen wrote:
> > I agree with all of this, but I think a more fundamental issue is that
> > this problem is always presented as a hypothetical, and we shouldn't
> > spend out time trying to solve hypothetical problems.  We know
> > readability is a problem when someone can't understand something.  We'll
> > know size is a problem when someone says they can't implement
> > microformats due to size.  No one has ever said that, as far as I know.
> It's hypothetical because not many people are using microformats yet.
> However, we *do* know that people are concerned with file sizes and html
> bloat as this was one of the main selling points of switching to
> tableless CSS designs was that of reducing file size [1].
> Javascripters also go to extreme lengths to compress their large
> libraries, often using cryptic variable and object names to shave off a
> few more bytes. The (lack of) size in a js library has become a feature.
> I don't happen agree with the practice of sacrificing readability for
> file size and others seem to agree [2].
> [1] http://www.stopdesign.com/articles/throwing_tables/
> [2] http://tinyurl.com/y2twvy
> The thing is, I don't think it's as black or white as saying one
> can/can't implement microformats due to size. Size should be a
> *consideration*, surely, and compromises need to be made. I just think,
> given the balance of pros and cons for longer, more readable,
> attributes, I'd go with longer.
> Cheers,
> Charles
> --
> Charles Roper
> www.charlesroper.co.uk
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