[uf-discuss] how do i submit something for consideration?
lachlan.hunt at lachy.id.au
Fri Oct 27 03:25:42 PDT 2006
Jonathan Vanasco wrote:
> I don't know how / where to submit it for potential consideration as a
Read the process. Then read it again, and again until you fully
understand it, and then follow it.
You really need to start by documenting real world websites and the
markup they use. The process most certainly doesn't start with a
> Creative Commons Attribution-No Derivative Works 2.5 License
That no derivatives clause effectively means we couldn't work on it to
improve it, only you could, so that effectively rules it out of
acceptance anyway (regardless of the other problems with the proposal).
> ... coerced to validate in XHTML strict
Any microformat really needs to be usable in HTML, not just XHTML,
because roughly 99.999% of the world effectively uses HTML. So that
means the example markup you provide in the spec should be in HTML, not
XHTML, or at the very least follow the guidelines in Appendix C. i.e.
You can't use <span/>, which seems to be in every example.
This is a copy of the long format example, copied from your current spec.
> <span class="findmeon">
> <span class="Spec" title="http://findmeon.org/spec/0_09"/>
* XML empty element syntax is not recommended.
* Span is the wrong element for links. Use <a>.
* What's the point of that element???? Is that a poor attempt at
replacing the profile attribute?
> <span class="SignedInfo">
> <span class="resource" title="http://www.FindMeOn.com"/>
* See previous 3 points.
> <span class="type" title="url"/>
> <span class="subtype" title="business"/>
> <span class="attributes">
> <span class="attribute" title="primary"/>
* What the?
> <span class="timestamp" title="2006-04-26 19:18:45-04"/>
* See datetime design pattern.
> <span class="Signature">
> <span class="SignatureValue" title="akjhasd">
> <span class="KeyInfo" title="">
* That's not even well-formed.
* Why is the signature hidden within the title attribute?
* What is KeyInfo? Why is it empty?
> <span class="SeeAlso">
> <a class="SeeAlso" href="http://www.FindMeOn.com/findmeon/xxxxxx" rel="repository me"/>
> <a class="SeeAlso" href="http://www.roadsound.com" rel="repository me"/>
> <a class="SeeAlso" href="http://www.2xlp.com/foaf.rdf" rel="foaf me"/>
> <a class="SeeAlso" href="http://www.2xlp.com/info.html" rel="xfn me"/>
> <a class="SeeAlso" href="http://www.2xlp.com/info.html" rel="openid me"/>
* What are all these links for?
* Why are they empty?
* It looks like some sort of list, why not mark it up as such?
> designed for machine readability , but supports human
> readability (90% of content would usually be hidden though)
Human readability? In that entire example, there was not one piece of
visible content that the user could see. It's designed entirely for
> openly claim / verify / link multiple websites together via
> RSA 1024 public key pairings within a distributed self-sufficient framework
> hopefully will end proprietary 'i own this blog/whatever' codes
> designed so that resources do not need to know about one
> another or a central server in order to be linked/verified by a public key
> originated from: a need to map artist/label/venue/etc ...
I have no idea how you think this format meets that use case.
> a dirty dirty hack
> standardizes the most common social network / dating site /
> online account profile fields that do not natively appear in existing
It would help if you could expand that page with more examples, and
maybe even progress it to the next step.
> its really quite a bad 'standard'
Fully agree! Also, search the archives for the recent discussion about
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