[uf-discuss] Social Media Group?

[Chris Messina]

Chris Heuer's also a personal friend and I've reminded him on occasion
to locate his work to the Microformats wiki, but he seems to be
content to work on his own.

I don't think the process need always use the mf.org wiki, but it
certainly help -- since many folks watch the changelog.

So long as Chris knows that he could consult or work more closely with
us, I don't necessary see an issue with his work; I think it's
premature to call it a microformat or to name it, but besides that, no
biggie.

Chris

On 9/14/06, David Janes <davidjanes at blogmatrix.com> wrote:
> I've been in touch with them, offered to help them out, and my
> understanding is they're planning to "follow the process". Also, one
> of the key guys, Chris Heuer is friends with Tantek.
>
> Regards, etc...
> David
>
> On 9/14/06, Chris Messina <chris.messina at gmail.com> wrote:
> > We could, but I don't know if it's that a big of a deal.
> >
> > I mean, the community will dictate what gets adopted and what doesn't.
> > Implementation is a much better "seal of approval" enforcement that
> > going for real legal protection. IMHO.
> >
> > ;)
> >
> > Chris
> >
> > On 9/14/06, Don Park <donpark at docuverse.com> wrote:
> > > My advice is to get some legal protection and introduce 'seal of approval'
> > > as an option so microformats can be created outside the group as well.
> > > Otherwise, this will happen over and over. - Don
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: microformats-discuss-bounces at microformats.org
> > > [mailto:microformats-discuss-bounces at microformats.org] On Behalf Of Chris
> > > Messina
> > > Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 10:43 AM
> > > To: Microformats Discuss
> > > Subject: Re: [uf-discuss] Social Media Group?
> > >
> > > I'm not involved with it, but I'm aware of it.
> > >
> > > This is Chris Heuer's project.
> > >
> > > I don't quite see how this is a microformat in the community sense though
> > > the goals are similar. In some ways, it's kind of like the hWidget project
> > > that was developed outside the microformats community and process, which, as
> > > we've seen, has resulted in lesser adoption.
> > >
> > > I don't quite understand why they're working outside the microformats
> > > community, except that it's not the traditional folks who work on standards
> > > or webdev who are involved (i.e. PR firms).
> > >
> > > I do take issue with the way that they're going about building out this work
> > > and calling it a microformat; in some respects, this is where, as a
> > > community mark, the microformats community should make clear how it feels
> > > about work of this nature being called a "microformat" that has exclusivity
> > > baked into its community model:
> > >
> > > "Membership in the working group is subject to approval by the Social Media
> > > Club advisory board"
> > >
> > > Their wiki is here: http://www.socialtext.net/hrelease/index.cgi
> > >
> > > Chris
> > >
> > >
> > > On 9/14/06, Ryan King <ryan at technorati.com> wrote:
> > > > Just found via a google alert:
> > > >
> > > > http://www.marketwire.com/mw/release_html_b1?release_id=162010
> > > >
> > > > > SILICON VALLEY, CA -- (MARKET WIRE) -- September 12, 2006 -- On the
> > > > > heels of its official launch, Social Media Club (SMC) formed the
> > > > > Media Release Working Group to develop the hRelease, a new standard
> > > > > for modernizing the traditional press release for a Web-centric world.
> > > > >
> > > > > The Media Release Working Group will work closely with the
> > > > > Microformats community, while evaluating other technologies such as
> > > > > XPRL, XBRL and NewsML to establish a standard way of organizing,
> > > > > tagging, distributing and sharing "official" organizational
> > > > > communications among blogs and other online communities. The group
> > > > > intends to present an initial draft specification on Nov. 2 at the
> > > > > Society for New Communications Research Symposium in Boston.
> > > >
> > > > ... and so on...
> > > >
> > > > I know there's been discussions of this "social media release"
> > > > elsewhere on the interweb, but is there anyone here who's involved in
> > > > the process?
> > > >
> > > > -ryan
> > > > --
> > > > Ryan King
> > > > ryan at technorati.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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