[uf-discuss] hidden microformats

[Paolo Negri]

Hi Ernie

Thanks for replying

The application I'm working on is rich in calendar items and people.

On some pages I have all the infos about these items and I can produce
very complete uformats. On other pages I render let's say just the
name and the email of someone and it doesn't make sense to provide a
less complete hcard than in a different page, and I absolutely can't
add the extra information (address, role) as visible.

Another problem is that there are a lot of data on the page and the
bits to build the uformats are well spreaded on it so I have to put
the main <div> or whatever at a very high level of the dom which is
not really nice because it tends to group even some items that are not
really in his context.

Paolo

On 27/09/06, Dr. Ernie Prabhakar <drernie at opendarwin.org> wrote:
> HI Paolo,
>
> In general "hidden" microformats are frowned upon, as they cause all
> sorts of problems.   Could you give an example of the types of
> "hidden" information you want/need to provide?
>
> -- Ernie P.
>
> On Sep 27, 2006, at 2:56 PM, Paolo Negri wrote:
>
> > Hi there
> >
> > This is my first post here, sorry if I'm not posting in the right
> > place.
> > I'm adding uformats support in my application and I have to say I'm
> > quite intrigued but I'm facing with 3 problems
> >
> > 1) Sometime I have to change the code of my pages in places where I
> > would prefer to have a more clean structure.
> > 2) Sometime I would like to to the uformats on my pages information
> > that I have in my application but that are not rendered in the current
> > page, and adding/hiding these information in the original structure to
> > complete the rendered information, make my page really dirty.
> > 3) In some cases I would like to add a uformat containing informations
> > that are not present at all on the page but that are deeply connected
> > with the context of the page.
> >
> > Now, what I was thinking is to add in the footer of my pages a sort of
> > container (let's say a div) with all  the microformats that I want to
> > provide to my end user. Basicly this div will be not visible because
> > of style setting , it will be just available for parsing purpouse.
> >
> > What I'm wondering is if this approach makes any sense since
> > microformats are more oriented to give semantic/parsability to the
> > visible content. I was thinking as an alternative to provide the
> > possibility to download directly the vcard or whatever, but I still
> > would preferer microformats since they sounds for me a bit more
> > discoverable than a link to the vcard or to the final object.
> >
> > One last question that I have is about the screen reader for impaired
> > user. Is there already a standard/proposal to signal that a section of
> > the page is dedicated to microformats, or maybe I should just use
> > something to avoid the processing of the container by the screen
> > reader.
> >
> > That's all, thank you for the attention.
> >
> > Paolo
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