[uf-discuss] OpenID

[anders conbere]

On 2/20/07, Thom Shannon <thom at ts0.com> wrote:
> I think it should also be possible to use openIDs in other elements than
> just anchors. You don't necessarily want to link to them, it's the url
> itself which is important not the location.
>
> It should also support none canonical urls so they can be written in the
> way users expect, we don't want openID users thinking they have to
> remember to type "http://"

I think this is actually backwards. You DO want to link to them,
(whether or not you're attempting to drive traffic there or not).
That's what makes them unique!

When I was speaking with Scott Kveton last week at ignite seattle,
something we spent a bit of time with was the concept of an openID as
a url, and the significance that plays.  Without being an actual
anchor to a specific location, and openID is meaningless. It derives
it's meaning and value from the use of the global DNS system,
regardless if you're actually looking to direct traffic to your openID
or not, it's the nature of it being an anchor that gives it power.

What value would an openID have outside of an anchor?

~ Anders

>
>
> Mike Kaply wrote:
> > The problem here is that there is concept of types in URLS....
> >
> > All parsers see is multiple URLS. We don't know which is the openid
> > URL...
> >
> > Mike Kaply
> >
> > On 2/20/07, John Panzer <panzerjohn at aol.com> wrote:
> >> Thom Shannon wrote:
> >>   > Hi,
> >>   >
> >>   > Forgive me if this is going over old ground, I just joined this
> >> list and
> >>   > couldn't find what I was looking for on the wiki. Are there any
> >>   > particular conventions emerging for embedding an OpenID into a
> >> hCard?
> >>   > The openid-brainstorming page mentions using hCard on providers
> >> profile
> >>   > pages etc, but I was thinking there should be a way to have your
> >> OpenID
> >>   > on other profiles that can easily be consumed, allowing someone
> >> to see
> >>   > you on social network A and add you on their social network B
> >> based on
> >>   > you using the same OpenID.
> >>   >
> >>   > I'm guessing it would be as simple as <a class="url fn openid"
> >>   > href="http://ts0.com">? Just wanted to know what others are doing.
> >>
> >> I actually have the same question.  At the moment we're doing this:
> >>
> >> <span class="vcard"><a class="fn
> >> url"href="http://journals.aol.com/panzerjohn"
> >> target="_blank">panzerjohn</a></span>
> >>
> >> where http://journals.aol.com/panzerjohn is an OpenID URL (or will be
> >> shortly).  A live example is at
> >> http://beta.journals.aol.com/panzerjohn/abstractioneer.
> >>
> >> I had been thinking it might be useful to be explicit about the fact
> >> that the target is not just a url, but also an openid.  If people think
> >> that's a good idea I can add it in to our code.
> >>
> >> -John
> >>
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