[uf-discuss] OpenID

[Thom Shannon]

I'm not saying you shouldn't have the option, my openid is my website, 
so I want people to link to it too. But if my mum has an openID of 
"openid.aol.com/mum", then she just needs to remember that, use it, and 
know that's her unique identity across the net, she never needs to see 
what's actually at that page, it'll just confuse her.

Kevin Marks wrote:
> I disagree, it being a URL is a good thing. I have 
> http:/kevinmarks.com as an openid URL with microformats attached to it 
> (based on Chris Messina's here):
>
> http://factoryjoe.com/hcard.html
>
> Should I be asserting his urls as a uid?
>
> On Feb 21, 2007, at 2:19 AM, Thom Shannon wrote:
>
>> I was picturing something more along the lines of a list of your 
>> friends on your social network, each one with an openID, you'd then 
>> want to copy and paste that to search for the same friend on the 
>> other social network. No one needs to know it's actually a url, not 
>> least the user. Both social networks have already verified their 
>> members via openID and are just using that string in their member db.
>>
>> anders conbere wrote:
>>> On 2/20/07, Thom Shannon <thom at ts0.com> wrote:
>>>> I think it should also be possible to use openIDs in other elements 
>>>> than
>>>> just anchors. You don't necessarily want to link to them, it's the url
>>>> itself which is important not the location.
>>>>
>>>> It should also support none canonical urls so they can be written 
>>>> in the
>>>> way users expect, we don't want openID users thinking they have to
>>>> remember to type "http://"
>>>
>>> I think this is actually backwards. You DO want to link to them,
>>> (whether or not you're attempting to drive traffic there or not).
>>> That's what makes them unique!
>>>
>>> When I was speaking with Scott Kveton last week at ignite seattle,
>>> something we spent a bit of time with was the concept of an openID as
>>> a url, and the significance that plays.  Without being an actual
>>> anchor to a specific location, and openID is meaningless. It derives
>>> it's meaning and value from the use of the global DNS system,
>>> regardless if you're actually looking to direct traffic to your openID
>>> or not, it's the nature of it being an anchor that gives it power.
>>>
>>> What value would an openID have outside of an anchor?
>>>
>>> ~ Anders
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Mike Kaply wrote:
>>>> > The problem here is that there is concept of types in URLS....
>>>> >
>>>> > All parsers see is multiple URLS. We don't know which is the openid
>>>> > URL...
>>>> >
>>>> > Mike Kaply
>>>> >
>>>> > On 2/20/07, John Panzer <panzerjohn at aol.com> wrote:
>>>> >> Thom Shannon wrote:
>>>> >>   > Hi,
>>>> >>   >
>>>> >>   > Forgive me if this is going over old ground, I just joined this
>>>> >> list and
>>>> >>   > couldn't find what I was looking for on the wiki. Are there any
>>>> >>   > particular conventions emerging for embedding an OpenID into a
>>>> >> hCard?
>>>> >>   > The openid-brainstorming page mentions using hCard on providers
>>>> >> profile
>>>> >>   > pages etc, but I was thinking there should be a way to have 
>>>> your
>>>> >> OpenID
>>>> >>   > on other profiles that can easily be consumed, allowing someone
>>>> >> to see
>>>> >>   > you on social network A and add you on their social network B
>>>> >> based on
>>>> >>   > you using the same OpenID.
>>>> >>   >
>>>> >>   > I'm guessing it would be as simple as <a class="url fn openid"
>>>> >>   > href="http://ts0.com">? Just wanted to know what others are 
>>>> doing.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I actually have the same question.  At the moment we're doing this:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> <span class="vcard"><a class="fn
>>>> >> url"href="http://journals.aol.com/panzerjohn"
>>>> >> target="_blank">panzerjohn</a></span>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> where http://journals.aol.com/panzerjohn is an OpenID URL (or 
>>>> will be
>>>> >> shortly).  A live example is at
>>>> >> http://beta.journals.aol.com/panzerjohn/abstractioneer.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I had been thinking it might be useful to be explicit about the 
>>>> fact
>>>> >> that the target is not just a url, but also an openid.  If 
>>>> people think
>>>> >> that's a good idea I can add it in to our code.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> -John
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
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