[uf-discuss] Scraping or parsing?
karl at w3.org
Sun Mar 4 20:40:28 PST 2007
Le 5 mars 2007 à 11:31, Mike Schinkel a écrit :
>> png, jpeg, gif, illustrator files, pdf, videos format?
> I'll give you those, but there is something fundamentally different
> them, i.e. they are for visual presentation not logic and data
> encoding. And
> there is SVG. Still, I have to ponder why tools have worked there
> but not
> elsewhere. It could be simply because their level of complexity in
> would be far beyond what a human could comprehend.
and *pdf* (given in the list)
I could have added, vcard, vcalendar, vectorial illustrator. All of
those, I do NOT want edit by hands, even if I had the possibility ;)
> Ah, but I would argue they were *first* a format that did not
> require tools
> for humans easily to understand, and later tools were added. I don't
> complain about tools, on the contrary I like them. I just think the
> underlying format should not be forgiven its complexity because of
> a faint
> hope that future tools that will make everything alright.
>> It depends on the context and the
>> way the technology has been developed, and its level of
> But wouldn't you agree, people tend to use the promise of a tool as
> a crutch
> when they should instead strive to make things in the raw grokable
> by humans
That is a different issue :) Human is too broad to be meaningful.
The goal is really to make a technology
which is easy to use depending on the
then using the argument that:
1. complexity of the technology is NOT important because there are/
will be tools.
2. simplicity of the technology is a MUST because of "hand authoring".
are both flawed, IMHO.
I'm really happy penballs exist even if I could use ink with a feather.
I'm really happy to have light measurement on my camera, even if I
could use my own lightmeter (which I do on a 6x6)
I'm really I have not to teach HTML to my parents, and just give them
a wysiwyg editor ;)
but yes I think we agree. :)
Karl Dubost - http://www.w3.org/People/karl/
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