[uf-discuss] Human and machine readable data format

Breton Slivka zen at zenpsycho.com
Mon Jul 14 15:06:53 PDT 2008

On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 12:36 AM, Michael <mdagn at spraci.com> wrote:
>> Seems to me there are 2 solutions:
>> 1. relax the data hiding constraint (tricky because it's fundamental to
>> the
>> uf design philosophy and it's relaxation has been rejected many times)
>> 2. maintain the status quo. Keep the abbreviation design pattern for
>> machine
>> friendly data and leave it up to publishers to decide if this is an issue
>> for them - or not. It would probably need the microformats community to
>> promote the design philosophy and potential issues a little higher than at
>> present. But the wiki already documents much of this - just a bit more
>> prominent linking and  some padding out of /about to be a little more
>> neutral.
> actually the suggestion of splitting the datetime into date, time and
> timezone marked up in separate elements seems to me like a good compromise.
> yyyy-mm-dd would certainly not be as scary for humans as a full datetime
> with timezone
> and it would avoid needing to hide data and be much easier to do than trying
> to cope with lots of different date formats or trying to do NLP.
> In fact it might even help a human in cases where the "human date" is
> ambiguous!

It might be a good comprimise, but does it actually solve the problem?
If they're all in a row aren't we right back where we started? The
screen reader would read them all in order, would it not? Or would it
add extra pauses by virtue of them being in seperate elements, or
having spaces between them?

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