[uf-discuss] Rationale for providing hAtom instead of Atom/RSSfeeds

[Glenn Jones]

I did some experiments a while back which you may find interesting. It's a XFN parser which can spider pages following rel=next.

http://lab.backnetwork.com/xfnpagination/

One of the more basic issues when using the web as an API is finding a method to interact with data split across multiple pages. We need a way of identifying additional information which is part of the current dataset, but on secondary pages. The rel attribute provides a practical standards based solution, which can be used to mark-up the next page in a series. We can do this with rel=me rel=next.

Personal I think that microformats parser should support Url fragment. So you can mark-up groups of information and provide pagination in context of a page fragment.     

http://twitter.com/glennjones/#friends 
http://twitter.com/glennjones/#posts

Targeting the second page of posts could look something like

<a href="http://twitter.com/glennjones/2/#posts" rel="next">Next</a>


Glenn




-----Original Message-----
From: microformats-discuss-bounces at microformats.org [mailto:microformats-discuss-bounces at microformats.org] On Behalf Of David Janes
Sent: 28 May 2008 18:46
To: Microformats Discuss
Subject: Re: [uf-discuss] Rationale for providing hAtom instead of Atom/RSSfeeds

There's documented XFN examples of next/prev here [1] though I'm not
sure what to make of the "officialness" of it. It would be cool this
was formally documented in a way that could be used across
microformats, though as Scott says in the -new mailing list.

Regards, etc...
David

[1] http://microformats.org/wiki/hcard-xfn-supporting-friends-lists#Implement_hCard_XFN_supporting_friends_lists

On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 1:18 PM, Scott Reynen <scott at randomchaos.com> wrote:
> On [May 28], at [ May 28] 7:07 , André Luís wrote:
>
>> I always thought of rel="next" as a xfn-only thing.
>
> I'm not seeing rel="next" in the XFN documentation.  Unless I'm missing
> something, it's not only not XFN-only, it's not XFN at all.
>
> On [May 28], at [ May 28] 10:09 , André Luís wrote:
>
>> hatom, rel="hfeed next"
>> hcalendar, rel="hcalendar next"
>>
>> Since both formats have a root node to encapsulate several
>> hentry|vevent, it would be (AFAIK) semantically correct.
>
>
> I don't believe those are appropriate uses of the rel attribute.
>  Regardless, they're new uses, so if you're interested in pursuing this
> further, please take it to the -new list:
>
> http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-new/
>
> Peace,
> Scott
>
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