[uf-discuss] schema.org, microformats.org, hRecipe

[Ted Drake]

I just want to remind people that Thomas was an unsung hero that worked his
ass off to get the hrecipe format into a workable format. He collaborated
with the Food Network and together they were able to publish the
microformat.

I remember coming across an issue with the hreview on Yahoo! Tech around
2006. It wasn't specifically itemscope, rather the desire to reference
content from another section of the page. For example, we had various
hreviews on a product page, but we had trouble referencing the product name
without including it within each review's container.

Itemscope wasn't an option at that time and I don't think it would have
solved the issue. We tried to reference the product name but ended up adding
the product name to each review via a hidden element. It was an ugly
solution, but better than having thousands of reviews for anonymous
products. 

That being said, I do believe people would have used itemscope if it was
available from the beginning of microformats. But hindsight is 20/20.


Ted



On 7/1/11 2:14 PM, "thomas lörtsch" <thomas at stray.net> wrote:

> Tantek,
> 
> since you already contributed to this thread, would you care to comment on my
> original question? Or can you point me to a wiki page where it is answered
> already? Besides browsing through the microformats.org site I also
> fulltext-searched it for "Google" but couldn't find anything relevant wrt my
> initial question (see the first mail in this thread). Which is odd.
> 
> Cheers
> Thomas
> 
> PS: And can you elaborate (or point me to a wiki page) how email archives on
> the web are "NOT" discoverable?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Jun 30, 2011, at 8:51 PM, Tantek Çelik wrote:
> 
>> The point is to capture specific issues rather than have a "discussion" - a
>> discussion where nothing is recorded on the wiki is nearly worthless and may
>> as well have not happened.
>> 
>> If it doesn't get captured on a discoverable URL, it might as well not exist
>> (and no, email archives are NOT discoverable).
>> 
>> 
>> I don't remember anyone asking for anything like itemscope in microformats.
>> 
>> 
>> This list or IRC (preferably) is a good place to start with questions, but if
>> there is an answer it should be captured by the author in an FAQ either
>> specific to a microformat *-faq page, or in general on:
>> 
>> http://microformats.org/wiki/faq
>> 
>> 
>> If there is a specific known issue to report for a specific microformat, add
>> it to the *-issues page for that microformat.
>> 
>> 
>> If there is a specific known issue that applies to several microformats (eg
>> class microformats) add it to:
>> 
>> http://microformats.org/wiki/issues
>> 
>> 
>> The goal is to *minimize* thrash / going in circles on email (a common
>> problem in standards related communities), and instead to capture and grow
>> our collective knowledge and understanding on the wiki.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Tantek
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: thomas lörtsch <thomas at stray.net>
>> Sender: microformats-discuss-bounces at microformats.org
>> Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 16:24:40
>> To: Microformats Discuss<microformats-discuss at microformats.org>
>> Reply-To: Microformats Discuss <microformats-discuss at microformats.org>
>> Subject: Re: [uf-discuss] schema.org, microformats.org, hRecipe
>> 
>> 
>> On Jun 29, 2011, at 5:05 PM, Stephen Paul Weber wrote:
>>> 
>>> I remember the itemscope thing coming up.  Consensus seemed to be that is
>>> solved by root class names, but that was so long ago I forget.  I assume
>>> that people created wiki pages documenting this?  If not, why not?
>>> Microformats.org is a wiki first, and the mailing lists and IRC just
>>> facilitate the wiki.  IMHO, if it's not documented on the wiki, then it's
>>> just a discussion.
>> 
>> Well, "just a discussion" wouldn't be a bad start. Or do you suggest that I
>> open a wiki page on my question?
>> 
>> Thomas
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> °|´             < in pursuit of the gestalt of it all />
>> ^^^
>> 
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> °|´             < in pursuit of the gestalt of it all />
> ^^^
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