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Today's Topics:
1. Money (aka Currency) and Measure test cases (Andy Mabbett)
2. Re: Internet radio and TV (Frances Berriman)
3. Re: Currency brainstorming (Guillaume Lebleu)
4. Internet radio and TV examples (Chris Newell)
5. Re: Internet radio and TV (Chris Newell)
6. Internet radio and TV brainstorming (Chris Newell)
7. Recipe Examples- Any more? (Frances Berriman)
8. I propose a new microformat for poems. (Michael Walker)
9. Re: I propose a new microformat for poems.
(Charles Iliya Krempeaux)
10. Re: I propose a new microformat for poems. (Scott Reynen)
11. Re: I propose a new microformat for poems.
(Alexandre Van de Sande)
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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2007 20:20:18 +0100
From: Andy Mabbett <andy at pigsonthewing.org.uk>
Subject: [uf-new] Money (aka Currency) and Measure test cases
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I have put up some simple test cases for Money and Currency microformats
(using arbitrary class names), based on Taylor Cowan's model or working.
Should anyone like to try a testing them with a parser, please feel free
and comment on the results here. or on the wiki.
I have added some variations of spacing, ordering and capitalisation, so
we can decide whether we need to be strict or generous in what we allow.
<http://www.westmidlandbirdclub.com/test/money.htm>
<http://www.westmidlandbirdclub.com/test/measure.htm>
I'll be happy to add alternative examples, if anyone has any.
Enjoy!
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Andy Mabbett
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 16:53:32 +0100
From: "Frances Berriman" <fberriman at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [uf-new] Internet radio and TV
To: "For discussion of new microformats."
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On 25/09/2007, Chris Newell <chris.newell at rd.bbc.co.uk> wrote:
> I'm interested in exploring how Internet radio and TV stations could be
defined semantically.
>
> As hAudio appears targeted at individual recordings and collections of
content I'm not sure it would be beneficial to the development process, or
to the end-users, to add additional complexity in order to support Internet
radio.
>
> Looking at the station listings out there on the web, there doesn't appear
to be much difference between the metadata provided for radio and TV
stations but there is a lot in common e.g. streams are often available at
different bitrates or using different codecs.
>
> Does anyone else have an interest or thoughts in this area?
>
> Chris
It's an interesting concept and worth exploring and I see there's some
stuff up on the wiki about it that you've started. Might be
worthwhile to see how much can be done with a mixture of the audio
work, hAtom (for syndication) and hCalendar (for scheduling - time of
air if it is time sensitive/limited broadcast)?
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Frances Berriman
http://fberriman.com
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2007 09:57:01 -0700
From: Guillaume Lebleu <gl at brixlogic.com>
Subject: Re: [uf-new] Currency brainstorming
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Andy Mabbett wrote:
> To apply a date, we could simply use hCalendar:
>
> <div class="vevent">
> <span class="description">
> <span class="summary">
> The last Monet painting to be auctioned
> </span>
> fetched
> <abbr class="currency" title="USD95M">$95 million</abbr>
> in
> <span class="dtstart>2005</span>
> </span>
> </div>
>
+1
Addresses the problem of historical money amounts without making the
date a property/subclass of currency/hmoney class.
Guillaume
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2007 09:18:45 +0100
From: Chris Newell <chris.newell at rd.bbc.co.uk>
Subject: [uf-new] Internet radio and TV examples
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I've started a wiki page to collect Internet radio and TV examples:
http://microformats.org/wiki/broadcast-examples
Please feel free to contribute more examples if you have them. I will try to
raise awareness within the broadcasting industry.
Chris
_______________________
Chris Newell
Lead Technologist
BBC Research
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2007 09:26:54 +0100
From: Chris Newell <chris.newell at rd.bbc.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [uf-new] Internet radio and TV
To: "For discussion of new microformats."
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Frances Berriman wrote:
At 16:53 01/10/2007, you wrote:
>On 25/09/2007, Chris Newell <chris.newell at rd.bbc.co.uk> wrote:
>> I'm interested in exploring how Internet radio and TV stations could be
defined semantically.
>>
>> As hAudio appears targeted at individual recordings and collections of
content I'm not sure it would be beneficial to the development process, or
to the end-users, to add additional complexity in order to support Internet
radio.
>>
>> Looking at the station listings out there on the web, there doesn't
appear to be much difference between the metadata provided for radio and TV
stations but there is a lot in common e.g. streams are often available at
different bitrates or using different codecs.
>>
>> Does anyone else have an interest or thoughts in this area?
>>
>> Chris
>
>It's an interesting concept and worth exploring and I see there's some
>stuff up on the wiki about it that you've started. Might be
>worthwhile to see how much can be done with a mixture of the audio
>work, hAtom (for syndication) and hCalendar (for scheduling - time of
>air if it is time sensitive/limited broadcast)?
Syndication may be more appropriate to hAudio / hVideo as currently proposed
but I agree entirely with the latter idea for real-time streams - something
similar was proposed during the media-info discussion before it got bogged
down due to the broadness of the overall scope.
Chris
_______________________
Chris Newell
Lead Technologist
BBC Research
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2007 09:39:21 +0100
From: Chris Newell <chris.newell at rd.bbc.co.uk>
Subject: [uf-new] Internet radio and TV brainstorming
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I've started a brainstorming page for Internet radio and TV:
http://microformats.org/wiki/broadcast-brainstorming
Please contribute any ideas you have in this area.
Chris
_______________________
Chris Newell
Lead Technologist
BBC Research
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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 16:28:28 +0100
From: "Frances Berriman" <fberriman at gmail.com>
Subject: [uf-new] Recipe Examples- Any more?
To: "For discussion of new microformats."
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Ben Ward has kindly tidied the recipe-brainstorm[1] page to reflect
recent discussions we've had here.
Would any other interested parties take a look please and give us any
feedback.
I think the first thing I'd like to do is query whether we feel the
examples[2] section of the work is complete enough to next discuss
commonalities and some of the proposed properties.
It does look to me like not that many, but I am feeling quite
confident that we're not going to find much more varied examples from
what's there given that our scope is to stick within food recipes
only.
Since I didn't conduct this research though, I'm keen to know other
people's feelings on it.
[1] http://microformats.org/wiki/recipe-brainstorming
[2]http://microformats.org/wiki/recipe-examples
--
Frances Berriman
http://fberriman.com
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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2007 19:37:51 +0100
From: "Michael Walker" <mike at yarrt.com>
Subject: [uf-new] I propose a new microformat for poems.
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Well, this is my first post to this mailing list and I thought i'd start
by addressing a problem thats been annoying me for a while.
I can't seem to find a microformat for poetry. I often write poems and
post them to my blog (http://blog.yarrt.com), and I sometimes wonder about
the best way to code them. Below is the method I have thought of (with one
of my poems as an example):
[Heading Text Here, possibly a <h1>, <h2>, etc, depending on the context]
<div class="poem">
<p class="verse">
Standing by the roadside,<br />
A tall dark man,<br />
Wore a long brown coat,<br />
Stood in the rain.
</p>
<p class="verse">
Explained he had no home,<br />
Just travelled the country,<br />
Sleeping on the streets,<br />
Begging for his food.
</p>
<p class="verse">
"Why is he helping me?",<br />
"Where am I going?",<br />
He must have wondered,<br />
While stepping into the car.
</p>
<p class="verse">
He seemed uneasy,<br />
Not sure to trust me,<br />
He had seem too much,<br />
To trust people blindly.
</p>
</div>
I would suggest marking it up with the following CSS rule:
div.poem p.verse{
margin:10px;
}
Possibly with a border around the whole poem, but that is, of course,
completely up to you.
What do you all think?
--
Michael Walker, Webmaster
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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 11:58:11 -0700
From: "Charles Iliya Krempeaux" <supercanadian at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [uf-new] I propose a new microformat for poems.
To: "For discussion of new microformats."
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Hello Michael,
On 10/3/07, Michael Walker <mike at yarrt.com> wrote:
> Well, this is my first post to this mailing list and I thought i'd start
> by addressing a problem thats been annoying me for a while.
>
> I can't seem to find a microformat for poetry. I often write poems and
> post them to my blog (http://blog.yarrt.com), and I sometimes wonder about
> the best way to code them. Below is the method I have thought of (with one
> of my poems as an example):
>
[...]
> What do you all think?
This is an excellent example of POSH.
So... you this may be a case for POSH (Plain Old Semantic HTML),
instead of a Microformat. Here's more info on POSH...
http://microformats.org/wiki/posh
Having said that... if there are others putting poems on the web
too... then there may be a case to come up with a common POSH format
-- a Microformat. If that's the case then you may want to look at the
Microformat process...
http://microformats.org/wiki/process
See ya
--
Charles Iliya Krempeaux, B.Sc. <http://ChangeLog.ca/>
Vlog Razor... Vlogging News
http://vlograzor.com/
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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 13:04:34 -0600
From: Scott Reynen <scott at makedatamakesense.com>
Subject: Re: [uf-new] I propose a new microformat for poems.
To: "For discussion of new microformats."
<microformats-new at microformats.org>
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On Oct 3, 2007, at 12:37 PM, Michael Walker wrote:
> I can't seem to find a microformat for poetry. I often write poems
> and post them to my blog (http://blog.yarrt.com), and I sometimes
> wonder about the best way to code them. Below is the method I have
> thought of (with one of my poems as an example):
Before we get into brainstorming, do you have some specific use cases
in mind for such a microformat? What problem are we tying to solve
here? If you haven't already, please read about the microformats
process:
http://microformats.org/wiki/process
--
Scott Reynen
MakeDataMakeSense.com
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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 18:59:46 -0300
From: "Alexandre Van de Sande" <alexandrevandesande at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [uf-new] I propose a new microformat for poems.
To: "For discussion of new microformats."
<microformats-new at microformats.org>
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you mean a microformat for sonnets, or for haikus or Odes or Sestinas,
because Poetry is a broad term that defies an objective structure
needed by microformatting. And I agree with previous commenters that
this requires a problem.
On 10/3/07, Scott Reynen <scott at makedatamakesense.com> wrote:
> On Oct 3, 2007, at 12:37 PM, Michael Walker wrote:
>
> > I can't seem to find a microformat for poetry. I often write poems
> > and post them to my blog (http://blog.yarrt.com), and I sometimes
> > wonder about the best way to code them. Below is the method I have
> > thought of (with one of my poems as an example):
>
> Before we get into brainstorming, do you have some specific use cases
> in mind for such a microformat? What problem are we tying to solve
> here? If you haven't already, please read about the microformats
> process:
>
> http://microformats.org/wiki/process
>
> --
> Scott Reynen
> MakeDataMakeSense.com
>
>
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