[uf-new] an equation/MathML/TeX microformat?

[Jeff McNeill]

Aloha,

Why not use the alt="" tag for a given rendered image? That is what
works on the MimeTeX installations, see e.g.,
http://garden9.com/wiki/user-talk:jeffmcneill

-- 
Sincerely,
Jeff McNeill
http://jeffmcneill.com/


On 10/26/07, Paul Topping <pault at dessci.com> wrote:
> What you suggest is close to what I'm looking for but lacks declaration
> of the kind of data the image/linked data bundle represents. Software
> working with the page would have to fetch the linked-to MathML or TeX
> and examine it to know it was an equation. As I understand it, what a
> microformat does is more than just hold the data, it declares a
> datatype.
>
> Also, I want to put the MathML or TeX in the page, not in separate
> documents. Typical pages with math in them might have dozens of
> equations. Having their representation in separate files is inefficient
> but perhaps the biggest problem is that it makes authoring a lot more
> tedious as lots of small files have to be managed.
>
> Paul Topping
> Design Science, Inc.
> www.dessci.com
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: microformats-new-bounces at microformats.org [mailto:microformats-
> > new-bounces at microformats.org] On Behalf Of Christopher St John
> > Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 7:34 AM
> > To: For discussion of new microformats.
> > Subject: Re: [uf-new] an equation/MathML/TeX microformat?
> >
> > On 10/26/07, Paul Topping <pault at dessci.com> wrote:
> > > The problem has nothing to do with improving display. As I said,
> that
> > > will be via an image such as a GIF or PNG. The microformat is solely
> > for
> > > the purpose of associating a MathML or TeX representation with the
> > > image. As with other microformats, normal HTML content is what the
> > user
> > > sees while software sees structured, useful data.
> > >
> >
> > To restate the hopefully obvious, just in case:
> >
> > You just want to say "this png image of an equation you're looking at
> > is associated with the (MathML | TeX | Etc) ( at the end of this link
> |
> > embedded
> > here in the document)"
> >
> > How would you do it now, without microformats? Something along the
> > lines of:
> >
> >  <a href="some_mathml.xml"><img src="some_math.png"></a>
> >
> > with maybe a "class" or "rel" or something in there to tie them
> together
> > a bit tighter?
> >
> > Would "the rendering fallback for this MathML is this png image" get
> you
> > the same effect? In which case you're maybe looking at the standard
> > <object> tag mechanism, but that gets you some (hopefully fading)
> > issues on certain browsers. But do the semantics of <object> fallbacks
> > match what you want to do?
> >
> > Have you read through the existing microformats in detail checking to
> > see how similiar sorts of problems have been solved before? Not sure
> if
> > there's anything exactly applicable, but it's probably worth a shot.
> >
> > -cks
> >
> > --
> > Christopher St. John
> > http://artofsystems.blogspot.com
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