[uf-new] workofart

[Walter Logeman]

Hi Jeremy,

I notice there is an hItem.

Could that be the broader thing you are thinking of?

What would happen if workofart was a subcategory of Item?

I hope my naïve questions are of some use!


Walter


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Ottevanger, Jeremy wrote:
> Hi Walter,
> 
> Last spring I asked the same Q about workofart. There was limited
> interest in it, it seemed, although I did get some encouraging (partly
> off-list) feedback and suggestions. I went off and had a rethink. In the
> last few days there have been some posts around the idea of a Dublin
> Core microformat, which idea has been pretty much dismissed or ignored,
> I think (as it was last year, when again it was mooted for describing
> works of art) but which has got me interested again.
> 
> My feeling now, as I wrote on Monday, is that something broader than
> simply works of art is useful (hence the case for a uF based on DC), but
> it looks like the leading lights of this community generally favour
> something extremely specific. Maybe, then, workofart could be revived.
> I'm still bemused, though, that the broadly applicable seems to be
> rejected in favour of the narrow. As I understand it, new microformats
> should where possible build upon existing uFs, but if these start off
> very narrow rather than generic then it makes it that much more awkward
> to do this - which it strikes me is the root of most of the problems in
> the hAudio debate. Had there been more broadly-aimed uFs to build it
> upon then rows over the meaning of "title" or "contributor" might never
> have arisen. 
> 
> Cheers, Jeremy
> 
> 
> 
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> 
> Walter Logeman wrote:
>> Is the workofart one of the ones under development?
> 
> It currently has nobody pushing the format forward.
> 
>> It looks a bit lost:
>> http://www.microformats.org/wiki/workofart-formats
>> Could that be revived here on this list?
> 
> It could be revived - but be ready to do a ton of work if you pick it
> up. It took around 500+ hours of work by the editor and around 250+
> hours (estimated) of work by list participants to get hAudio to where it
> is today.
> 
> Pushing a Microformat forward is not for the faint of heart... but if
> you're okay with doing that sort of work for the public good, by all
> means, push hArt forward.
> 
>>> That being said - if you could stomach the discussion about 
>>> namespaces, you should do fine on this list :)
>> I am a programming virgin but a Philosophy graduate so this sort of 
>> thing is quite fun, but I can see it could go off-topic.
> 
> Good :) - there is quite a bit of borrowed philosophy from a variety of
> disciplines wrapped up in Microformats. It's interesting to see the
> intersection of the philosophies of linguistics, computer science,
> working for the public domain, and what people find easy and intuitive
> implement.
> 
>> I am going to POSHify my site, I'll learn by doing, and return here
> later.
> 
> That's the best place to start... :)
> 
> -- manu
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