[uf-rest] Fwd: [microformats-discuss] REX! Re: REST-discuss list,
Dr. Ernie Prabhakar
drernie at opendarwin.org
Tue Oct 25 21:26:43 PDT 2005
Forwarding to uf-rest, so we can continue the discussion there...
Begin forwarded message:
> From: Joe Gregorio <joe.gregorio at gmail.com>
> Date: October 21, 2005 1:28:14 PM PDT
> To: Microformats Discuss <microformats-discuss at microformats.org>
> Subject: Re: [microformats-discuss] REX! Re: REST-discuss list, naming
> Reply-To: Microformats Discuss <microformats-discuss at microformats.org>
> On 10/21/05, Ryan Tomayko <rtomayko at gmail.com> wrote:
>> There's actually a lot more going on here. Joe, if you get some time,
>> run through these:
>> (I think this is the latest, the url keeps changing)
>> I've been watching from afar but the proposal is much more than just
>> using XHTML w/ existing REST technique. Briefly,
> Yeah, I have concerns too if this is the proposal.
> The biggest problem
> is that HTML over HTTP is already RESTful. Every web page with a form
> is already a self-descriptive hypertext document on how to compose
> the request.
>> 1. Constraining REST verbs to POST/GET
> As for restricting to POST/GET, that's the wrong direction to be
> in, just look at Web Forms 2.0 for what's coming in the next
> of HTML.
>> 2. A system for constructing URLs.
> There are already several systems for construction URLs,
> for example the one included in
> HTML, and OpenSearch.
>> 3. Discovery through URL construction as opposed to hypermedia.
> Hypertext as the engine of application state is an important
> concept, one I've written an entire article on .
>> 4. Limiting transfer representations to application/x-www-form-
> I'm not gonna really comment on that except to point out that
> uploading a video encoded in application/x-www-form-urlencoded
> is going to be a bit wasteful.
>> I'd like to hear your feelings about some of these proposals as I
>> reservations about a few of them (especially #1, #2, #3, #4).
> I've got my own ideas about how microformats intersect
> with RESTful web services that I've outlined in ,
> in general seeing everything through my Atom colored
>  http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-forms/current-work/
>  http://opensearch.a9.com/spec/opensearchquerysyntax/1.1/
>  http://www.xml.com/pub/a/2005/04/06/restful.html
>  http://bitworking.org/news/What_do_you_see_in_Web_2_0_
> Joe Gregorio http://bitworking.org
> microformats-discuss mailing list
> microformats-discuss at microformats.org
Ernest N. Prabhakar, Ph.D. <drernie at opendarwin.org>
Ex-Physicist, Marketing Weenie, and Dilettante Hacker
Probe-Hacker blog: http://www.opendarwin.org/~drernie/
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