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<h1>WebOrganics Talk</h1>
 
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WebOrganics talk is a page where I explore my ideas, you could call this a study page. Anything I put here is '''not''' part of any [[process|microformats process]] and not to be regarded as such. Please feel free to edit and correct this page and sign it with <nowiki>'~~~~'</nowiki> or email me any comments, criticism, changes that could work better or make more sense, or just to tell me that I am wrong :)
 
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==10 meaningful words==
 
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'''Martin McEvoy''' [http://weborganics.co.uk/ WebOrganics] 07:47, 12 May 2007 (PDT)
 
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===The Idea===
 
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To display visible Keywords similar to invisible ones that an author would place in the head of their document e.g
 
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    <pre><meta name="keywords" content="your keywords,go here,separated by a comma,but not a space" /></pre>
 
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I'm not putting my keywords in the head of the document but in another largely ignored part of a website the footer.
 
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The Idea is to tag your website or blog with 10 meaningful words about your website or more precisely descriptive words about the things that relate to your website the most. A similar idea is used when you are asked to tag your blog when you add a new blog to [http://technorati.com/ technorati].
 
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The hope is that if you type these 10 keywords into a search engine or directory then the result will be your website.
 
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Example this is what my website [http://weborganics.co.uk/ WebOrganics] has in the footer:
 
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<pre><ol class="xoxo">
 
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<li>
 
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  <dl>
 
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  <dt>10 <a href="http://tantek.com/presentations/2005/09/elements-of-xhtml/">Meaningful</a> Words</dt>
 
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    <dd class="info"> 
 
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<a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/" rel="tag">Semantic</a>
 
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<a href="http://www.molly.com/2005/11/14/web-standards-and-the-new-professionalism/" rel="tag">Standards</a> 
 
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<a href="http://www.w3.org/WAI/gettingstarted/Overview.html" rel="tag">Accessibility</a> 
 
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<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Implementation" rel="tag">Implementation</a> 
 
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<a href="http://microformats.org/wiki/introduction" rel="tag">Microformats</a> 
 
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<a href="http://www.adammathes.com/academic/computer-mediated-communication/folksonomies.html" rel="tag">Folksonomy</a>
 
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<a href="http://www.rubyonrails.org/" rel="tag">Rails</a> 
 
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<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open-source_software" rel="tag">Open</a> 
 
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<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organic_search_engine" rel="tag">Organic</a> 
 
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<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_design" rel="tag">Universal</a>
 
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  </dd>
 
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</li>
 
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</ol></pre>
 
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I have a visible maybe new microformat '''meaningful''' in my <nowiki><dt></nowiki> tag my description term also a link to an article that explains this , the <nowiki><a></nowiki> tag's have similar links to my keywords, all the <nowiki><a></nowiki> atributes are paired with the '''<nowiki>rel="tag"</nowiki>''' microformat, the idea is that this is simple.
 
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===Does it work?===
 
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search these 10 keywords.  Semantic Standards Accessibility Implementation Microformats Folksonomy Rails Open Organic Universal 
 
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* [http://uk.search.yahoo.com/search?p=Semantic+Standards+Accessibility+Implementation+Microformats+Folksonomy+Rails+Open+Organic+Universal/ Yahoo]
 
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* [http://www.google.com/search?q=Semantic+Standards+Accessibility+Implementation+Microformats+Folksonomy+Rails+Open+Organic+Universal/ Google]
 
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* [http://search.aol.com/aol/search?invocationType=topsearchbox.webhome&query=Semantic+Standards+Accessibility+Implementation+Microformats+Folksonomy+Rails+Open+Organic+Universal/ AOL]
 
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* [http://www.altavista.com/web/results?itag=ody&q=Semantic+Standards+Accessibility+Implementation+Microformats+Folksonomy+Rails+Open+Organic+Universal++&kgs=0&kls=0 AltaVista]
 
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* [http://www.metacrawler.com/info.metac/search/web/Semantic%252BStandards%252BAccessibility%252BImplementation%252BMicroformats%252BFolksonomy%252BRails%252BOpen%252BOrganic%252BUniversal MetaCrawler]
 
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* [http://www.dogpile.com/info.dogpl/search/web/Semantic%252BStandards%252BAccessibility%252BImplementation%252BMicroformats%252BFolksonomy%252BRails%252BOpen%252BOrganic%252BUniversal/ Dogpile]
 
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* [http://www.alexa.com/search?q=Semantic+Standards+Accessibility+Implementation+Microformats+Folksonomy+Rails+Open+Organic+Universal&x=10&y=11/ Alexa]
 
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* [http://www.alltheweb.com/search?cat=web&cs=iso88591&q=Semantic+Standards+Accessibility+Implementation+Microformats+Folksonomy+Rails+Open+Organic+Universal++&rys=0&itag=crv&_sb_lang=pref/ All The Web]
 
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* [http://www.technorati.com/blogs/Semantic+Standards+Accessibility+Implementation+Microformats+Folksonomy+Rails+Open+Organic+Universal/ Technorati Directory]
 
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===Summary===
 
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Interesting points:
 
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* '''Meaningful''' words mean something!... do they?
 
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* Can '''people''' be taged in a similar way? '''<nowiki>rel="meaningful"</nowiki>''' [http://gmpg.org/xfn/ XFN]
 
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* Maybe its just a good example of [[posh]] in action.
 
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I know the evidence is un-conclusive but it '''is''' something to think about eh...
 
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<h1>hCollection</h1>
 
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==hCollection 0.0.4==
 
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Martin McEvoy [http://weborganics.co.uk/ WebOrganics] 12:05, 13 May 2007 (GMT)
 
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Using [http://dublincore.org/groups/collections/collection-application-profile/#colproperties DC CD AP] Terms to describe a collection.
 
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===Collection===
 
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Terms are:
 
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* hcollection, the root of the collection (dc:collection)
 
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** id attribute, is used as a physical id of a collection to be included in "parts"
 
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** title, the title of the collection (dc:title)
 
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** type, what type of collection it is. (dc:type)
 
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** url, a link to the collection using <nowiki><a></nowiki> with the class attribute "url" (dc:identifier *A URI for the collection*.)
 
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<pre>
 
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<div class="hcollection" id="h">
 
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        <span class="type">Album</span>:
 
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        <span class="title">
 
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        <a class="url"
 
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href="http://www.downloadpunk.com/?webaction=AlbumDetail&amp;albumid=13202">Fifty Million People Can't Be Wrong</a>
 
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        </span>
 
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</div>
 
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</pre>
 
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Another example
 
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<div class="hcollection" id="s">
 
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  <span class="title">
 
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    <a class="url" href="http://Stamps.com...">Stamp Book</a>
 
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===Add to collection===
 
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Add a Part to our collection terms are:
 
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* part-of, this is the root element of our collection part. (dcterms:isPartOf)
 
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** part-of-title, This is the collection part title
 
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** part-of-type, what type of part it is.
 
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** url, a link to the collection part with the class attribute "url".
 
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** Class include using the [[include | Include Pattern]], links the part to a collection
 
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<span class="part-of">
 
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  <span class="part-of-type">Track</span> 1
 
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    <span class="part-of-title"><a class="url" href="http://track1...>Reason Ain't Our Long Suit</a>
 
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      <a class="include" href="#h"></a>
 
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</pre>
 
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Another Example: Minimal
 
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<div class="part-of">
 
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  <span class="part-of-title">Penny Black</span>
 
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  <span class"part-of-type">Stamp</span>
 
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  <a class="include" href="#s"></a>
 
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===Summary===
 
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hCollection seems to me very verbose I think that this may all be done by using just '''hcollection''' and  '''part-of''' it would be much simpler to use, and easier to adopt.
 
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this may be better to use:
 
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<pre>
 
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<div class="hcollection" id="s">Stamp Book</div>
 
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</pre>
 
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and,
 
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<pre>
 
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<a class="incldue part-of" href="s">A stamp</a>
 
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</pre>
 
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does this work?...
 
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====Issues====
 
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* '''title''' is a common part of many Microformats, '''title''' may not be necessary.
 
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* '''url''' is also a common part of many Microformats, '''url''' may not be necessary.
 
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* class '''include''' has issues see here - [[include-pattern-feedback | Include pattern feedback ]]
 
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===See also===
 
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* [[collection-description|Collection Description]]
 
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* [[grouping-examples|Grouping Examples]]
 
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==Contact or get involved==
 
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<div class="vcard"><span class="fn"><span class="given-name">Martin</span> <span class="family-name"> McEvoy</span></span>
 
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<span class="org">'''WebOrganics'''</span>.
 
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* http://weborganics.co.uk/
 
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** <div>Email: <span class="email">info@weborganics.co.uk</span></div>
 
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Want to talk more about this or maybe something new?
 
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