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= Advocacy =
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<entry-title> Advocacy </entry-title>
A lot can be done to help advocate the use of microformats. Often, simply by taking an existing site, and adding the suggested microformatting to a few of its pages as examples is all that is necessary to help the developers of the site add the microformats to the site itself. Applications, such as browsers, could also use some guidance on how to best support microformats.
A lot can be done to help advocate the use of microformats. Often, simply by taking an existing site, and adding the suggested microformatting to a few of its pages as examples is all that is necessary to help the developers of the site add the microformats to the site itself. Applications, such as browsers, could also use some guidance on how to best support microformats.
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Sometimes advocacy requires comparison and analysis of alternative technologies or approaches.  As [[User:MikeSchinkel|Mike Schinkel]] pointed out, we need good answers to comments like "No, we're going to use XXX instead...".
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Sometimes advocacy requires comparison and analysis of alternative technologies or approaches.  As [[User:MikeSchinkel|Mike Schinkel]] pointed out, we need good answers to comments like "No, we're going to use XYZ instead...".
The goal for this page is to include pointers for how to advocate microformats on new sites and on existing sites that are considering or using alternative approaches, as well as applications that can benefit from supporting microformats.
The goal for this page is to include pointers for how to advocate microformats on new sites and on existing sites that are considering or using alternative approaches, as well as applications that can benefit from supporting microformats.
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For general resources for marketing microformats, see [[spread-microformats]].
For general resources for marketing microformats, see [[spread-microformats]].
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== Adding Microformats to Existing Sites ==
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== Adding microformats to Existing Sites ==
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Add sites here that you think would benefit from the addition of microformats. For now they are grouped by the microformat which would primarily benefit the site. Feel free to take a look at some of the sites on this list, document sample pages to be microformatted, add microformats to them, and then add the before/after of the key sections of mark-up to another wiki page for that site.
Add sites here that you think would benefit from the addition of microformats. For now they are grouped by the microformat which would primarily benefit the site. Feel free to take a look at some of the sites on this list, document sample pages to be microformatted, add microformats to them, and then add the before/after of the key sections of mark-up to another wiki page for that site.
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=== hCard ===
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Successes are also noted; the most recent are flagged as {{SuccessMarker}}.
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Adding [[hcard|hCard]] to these sites would make them quite handy for their users and for being indexed:
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==== Online Profiles ====
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Nearly every website that has a login has a page representing the public profile of the user that other users can see and interact with. Many such sites already [[hcard-implementations|support hCard]] (e.g. ClaimID.com, Flickr.com, Technorati.com, Zooomr.com). Here are some that I think would benefit from the addition of hCard to their profile / user pages. Feel free to add more such sites that have a social network profile-like component and I'll see what I can do. [[User:Tantek|Tantek]] 17:44, 13 Dec 2006 (PST)
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* Twitter.com - working on it [[User:Tantek|Tantek]] 17:44, 13 Dec 2006 (PST)
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* Consumating.com - working on it [[User:Tantek|Tantek]] 17:44, 13 Dec 2006 (PST)
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* Wikimedia - including this site, Wikipedia, Wikitravel, etc.
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**It would be nice if <nowiki>[[User:YOURNAME]]</nowiki> links generated proper (mini)hCards. ([http://microformats.org/wiki?title=to-do&diff=12177&oldid=12173#Lazyweb per SteveIvy]; moved from 'to-do')
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==== Online Venues ====
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There are many sites that offer pages that represent organizations and venues that could benefit from being marked up with hCard. [http://local.yahoo.com/ Yahoo Local] venues are marked up with hCards for example. Here are some more sites that have venues that would benefit from hCard markup.
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* [http://dodgeball.com/ Dodgeball] venues.
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* Yelp.com
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====Wikpedia hCard====
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*Infobox Templates for people to add [[hcard|hCard]] to their generated markup
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** [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Infobox_Biography&action=edit Infobox_Biography]
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** [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Infobox_actor&action=edit Infobox_actor] which should result in actor pages, e.g. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humphrey_Bogart Humphrey Bogart]'s page, being properly hCarded.
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*Addressable buildings e.g. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Old_Crown%2C_Birmingham The Old Crown, Birmingham]
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*Tourist attractions, e.g. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cadbury_World Cadbury World]
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*Companies, e.g. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesco Tesco] (note headquarters address in infobox)
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*Motorway service stations, e.g. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watford_Gap_service_station Watford Gap]
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*Railway Stations, e.g. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perry_Barr_railway_station Perry Barr]
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*etc.
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====Telephone Directory Listings====
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Telephone Directory Listings could usefully apply hCard to their results pages. [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]] 03:10, 13 Nov 2006 (PST)
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*[http://www.thephonebook.bt.com/ BT]
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**Requested via [http://tinyurl.com/yhtdjy BT feedback form], 2006-11-13 [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]
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**BT confirm that they will consider this at their next re-build. 2006-12 [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]
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*[http://118118.com 118118.com]
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**Requested via e-mail, 2006-11-13. [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]
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====Postal (ZIP) code Finders====
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Postal code Finders could usefully apply hCard to their results pages. [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]] 12:09, 13 Nov 2006 (PST)
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*[http://pol.royalmail.com/dda/txt/pf.asp Royal Mail] (UK)
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**Requested via [http://tinyurl.com/ya4hzu Royal Mail feedback form], 2006-11-13 [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]
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**Acknowledged 2006-11-30. [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]
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====Government hCard====
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=====UK Gov. hCard=====
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* Parliament: [http://www.parliament.uk/directories/hciolists/alms.cfm Alphabetical List of Members of Parliament] (see also [http://www.parliament.uk/directories/directories.cfm other lists of MPs and Lords]). [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]
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=====Europe Gov. hCard=====
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* e.g. [http://www.europarl.org.uk/uk_meps/westmidlands.asp UK MEPs]
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==== Organization Contacts ====
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Many companies and organizations have about or contact pages that could benefit from being marked up with hCard.  [http://technorati.com/about/contact.html Technorati's contact page] for example is both marked up with hCard and has a convenient "Add to Address Book" hCard to vCard converter link. The following company sites could benefit from similar markup (and, until user agents support hCards natively, "Add to Address Book" links). [[User:Tantek|Tantek]] 17:44, 13 Dec 2006 (PST)
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*Adobe
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**[http://www.adobe.com/aboutadobe/offices.html Adobe offices]
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***Requested using contact form, 2006-12-14. [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]
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*Google
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**Contacts, e.g. [http://www.google.com/intl/en/contact/index.html Google USA], [http://www.google.co.uk/intl/en/contact/index.html Google UK], etc.
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*[http://www.mozilla.com/ Mozilla]
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**[http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/about/legal.html Mozilla legal notices]
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*Opera
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**People, e.g. [http://people.opera.com/howcome/ Håkon Wium Lie]; could also be hResume
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**[http://www.w3.org/Consortium/contact W3C contact]
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**[http://www.w3.org/People/all W3C Staff listing] and individual pages, e.g. [http://www.w3.org/People/Berners-Lee/ Tim Berners-Lee]
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***Requested by e-mail. [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]
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====Other hCard====
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* [http://www.imdb.com/ Internet Movie Database] (IMDb) for people (real, not characters), e.g. [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000007/ Humphrey Bogart]. [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]] 02:49, 13 Nov 2006 (PST)
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**Can't find contact info! [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]
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*Wikitravel
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**e.g. [http://wikitravel.org/en/Birmingham_%28England%29 Wikitravel - Birmingham]
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***See also [http://wikitravel.org/en/Wikitravel:Microformats Wikitravel:Microformats]
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===hCalendar===
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[[hcalendar|hCalendar]] could be used on these sites:
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==== W3C track at WWW2006 ====
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* DanC offers a 150 point bounty to anybody who takes [http://www.w3.org/2006/05/w3c-track the W3C track at WWW2006] and adds hCalendar markup and sends it to connolly@w3.org,www-archive@w3.org
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====Television listings====
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*A major coup would be to get one of the major players (the BBC, Sky, or PBS, say), to mark up their TV or radio listings with hCalendar - does anyone have contacts in such an organisation? [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]] 10:53, 21 Oct 2006 (PDT)
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**Does anyone have URLs to the TV or radio listings of the major players? Getting those URLs would be the next step, and then doing the markup ourselves would be the next step after that. [[User:Tantek|Tantek]] 13:02, 21 Oct 2006 (PDT)
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*[http://www.radiotimes.com/ Radio Times] (BBC, UK)
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** Requested by e-mail [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]
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*[http://www.tvtimes.co.uk/ TV Times] (UK)
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** Requested by e-mail 2006-11-13 [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]
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*BBC main listings (e.g. [http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcone/listings/index.shtml?service_id=4223 BBC One])
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** Requested by [http://www.bbc.co.uk/feedback/bbci_comment.shtml BBC Feedback Form] 2006-11-13 [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]
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** [http://microformats.org/discuss/mail/microformats-discuss/2007-January/008129.html "We're currently looking at using the event microformat on the redesigned radio 4 schedule page (and possibly throughout bbc.co.uk/radio4"] 2007-01-14 per email.
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====Government hCalendar====
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*[http://www.dti.gov.uk/employment/bank-public-holidays/index.html DTI: Bank Holidays] (not Scotland)
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** Requested by e-mail, 2006-11-13 [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]
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***Response: "At the moment we have no plans to use hCalendar or hCard coding due to unresolved concerns about accessibility issues (especially text-to-speech readers), however, we thank you for your suggestion."
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***Request for clarification of concerns unanswered.
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*[http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/ E-petitions] (in draft, and asking for suggested improvements}
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** Requested by e-mail, 2006-12-01 [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]] 11:47, 1 Dec 2006 (PST)
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*** reply: "I've added it to our list of ideas." 2006-12-04 [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]] 11:07, 4 Dec 2006 (PST)
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*[http://www.scotland.gov.uk/Publications/2005/01/bankholidays Scottish Executive Bank Holidays]
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** Requested by [http://www.scotland.gov.uk/About/HaveYourSay/WebsiteFdbck Scottish Executive feedback form], 2006-11-13 [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]
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====Sports Fixtures====
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*PremiumTV (UK, Soccer, has a page for each team)
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**[http://www.avfc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/Fixtures/ Aston Villa]
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**[http://www.wba.premiumtv.co.uk/page/Fixtures/ West Bromwich Albion]
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*** Requested by e-mail, 2006-11-13 [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]
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****"webmaster@" bounced. [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]
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*[http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/ E-petitions] (in draft, and asking for suggested improvements}
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** Requested by e-mail, 2006-12-01 [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]] 11:48, 1 Dec 2006 (PST)
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*** reply: "I've added it to our list of ideas." 2006-12-04 [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]] 11:08, 4 Dec 2006 (PST)
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* [http://www.imdb.com/ Internet Movie Database] (IMDb) for film reviews, e.g. [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0049291/ The Harder They Fall ]. [[User:AndyMabbett|AndyMabbett]] 02:49, 13 Nov 2006 (PST)
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**[http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7913 Bug 7913] raised 2006-11-13. '''[http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/votes.cgi?action=show_user&bug_id=7913 vote to add hAtom to the change log of media wiki pages]''' [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]
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*[http://rbach.priv.at/Microformats-IRC/2006-11-13 IRC logs]
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**E-mailed. [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]] 10:29, 5 Dec 2006 (PST)
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**Some events, e.g. [http://upcoming.org/event/128155/ Multipack February 2007] are tagged thus: <code>geo:lat=52.4784</code>, <code>geo:lon=-1.9096</code>. This could be rendered as a geo microformat. [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]
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A Google search for 'sparrow' resolves to http://www.google.com/search?&q=sparrow, if not the unwieldy http://www.google.com/search?hs=TUz&hl=en&lr=&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-GB%3Aofficial&q=sparrow&btnG=Search - likewise http://www.google.com/search?&q=%22black+redstart%22 for ' "black redstart" '. If Google can be persuaded to also accept, say, '''<nowiki>http://www.google.com/search/sparrow</nowiki>''' and '''<nowiki>http://www.google.com/search/black_redstart</nowiki>''' as being equivalent (and assuming that the latter term searches for ' "black redstart" ', with the quote marks), then Google would become a namespace for rel-tag. [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]] 00:15, 29 Nov 2006 (PST)
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* I've added a request for vote-link support in [http://ma.gnolia.com Ma.gnolia]'s link rating system: [http://wiki.ma.gnolia.com/Feature_Suggestions Feature Suggestions on wiki.ma.gnolia.com]
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There is obviously a great deal of publicity to be gained, by having microformats used on sites about IT developments, which are likely to be read by people in a position to have microformats used, and microformat tools implemented, in their organisations. Please add to this list!
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== Adding Microformats to Applications ==
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User-agents (browsers, etc.) should support microformats natively. For instance, a user should not need to use a third party application or web service to add address details or events from a microformat-using web page to their address book or calendar programme.
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If your successes resulted from emails that you sent to site owners/developers, please consider sharing your successful advocacy emails on the [[advocacy-email-samples]] page, and along with each email sample, list the sites which responded positively to your email.  This way others in the community can learn from your success and hopefully use your email samples to contact additional sites and get them to adopt microformats.
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For now this section is organized primarily by microformat, as that's easier for the community to document and keep track of.
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* <span id="hCard">[[hcard-advocacy]]</span>
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** <span id="Geo">[[geo-advocacy]]</span>
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** <span id="Adr">[[adr-advocacy]]</span>
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* <span id="hCalendar"> [[hcalendar-advocacy]]</span>
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* <span id="hReview">[[hreview-advocacy]]</span>
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* <span id="hAtom">[[hatom-advocacy]]</span>
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* <span id="rel-tag">[[rel-tag-advocacy]]</span>
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====Blogger====
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* Chris Messina is [http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2006/09/02/on-open-letter-to-blogger/ advocating more support in Blogger]
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Getting publishing tools adopt microformats will perhaps have the biggest impact on expanding the adoption and support of microformats.
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* [[cms-advocacy]]
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* [[blogging-tools-advocacy]]
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Others:
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* postlets.com - which crossposs to craigslist.com and other classifieds services.  If they generated span+a microformats (which apparently survive posting into Craigstlist posting), the posters could get postings in hCard without any additional work.
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** check oodle.com also.
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====Drupal====
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*There's a Drupal group for discussing/advocating/implementing [http://groups.drupal.org/microformats-in-drupal microformats in Drupal]
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More and more [[web-agencies]] are supporting microformats both on their own sites and on sites they build.
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====Plone====
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Getting more web design, development, etc. agencies and related efforts to adopt microformats also has the indirect benefit of them supporting microformats in the sites they build and develop.
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*[http://plone.org/ Plone] is an Open Source Content Management System ([http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plone_(content_management_system) Plone on Wikipedia]).
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**See this [http://plone.org/events/sprints/past-sprints/calsprint/SprintTopics/?searchterm=microformats 2005 Plone user comment]
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**[http://dev.plone.org/plone/ticket/5351 Plone feature request for rel-tag]
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**[http://dev.plone.org/plone/ticket/6050 Plone feature request for microformats], submitted 2007-01-06 [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]
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== Adding Microformats to Web Services ==
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If you are a strong and vocal supporter of microformats in your work, please feel free to add yourself to the
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===ClearForest===
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* [[web-agencies]] page
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*[http://sws.clearforest.com/ ClearForest Semantic Web Services ] - uses natural language processing tools to recognise people, organisations, places, events and CVs (resumes) in web pages. Would benefit from recognising hCard, hResume, hCalendar, Geo, Adr, etc. Could also use them in its output. [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]] 05:09, 6 Dec 2006 (PST)
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===Upcoming===
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== online tutorials ==
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*Upcoming could accept a URL, parse the page for hCalendar microformats, then present a list to the user. These could be selected (via check-boxes) and uploaded. [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]
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Add [[microformats2]] to topical online tutorials, especially if they already have classic microformats examples that can be updated.
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**[http://community.upcoming.org/w/index.php/Suggestion_Box#Upload_events_from_microformatted_pages Upload of hCalendars requested on Upcoming Wiki] 2007-01-14
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== Successes ==
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* https://stackoverflow.com/questions/5125856/should-i-use-meta-name-author-content-your-name-or-link-rel-author-hr
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** has [[hCard]] example that should be updated to [[h-card]]
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=== hCard Successes ===
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== multiple microformats ==
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<span id="Various">In general add such sites to the page for the primary microformat which would benefit from the sites' support. See above.</span>
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*Details of hCard should be added to the [http://www.imc.org/pdi/ Internet Mail Consortium's vCard page]
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== successes ==
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**Requested by e-mail, 2006-11-24 [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]
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=== Magnolia ===
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**'''Success''' achieved 2006-11-25. [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]
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[http://ma.gnolia.com ma.gnolia] supports many microformats. These should all be incorporated into the [[examples-in-the-wild]] pages for each specific microformat.
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* [http://wiki.ma.gnolia.com/Microformat_Feature_Requests Microformat Feature Requests on ma.gnolia wiki]
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* {{SuccessMarker}} [http://ma.gnolia.com ma.gnolia] is implementing semantic features and microformats quickly. Here's a screenshot of my ma.gnolia page, and the Firefox [https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/4106 Operator extension]'s response to its code. Shiny. :) --[[User:CarlaHufstedler|Carla]] 10:30, 1 Sep 2007 (PDT)<br />
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[http://flickr.com/photos/hauntedpalace/1296152892/ http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1390/1296152892_20108bd860_d.jpg] (click for larger version)
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* {{SuccessMarker}} added a [http://wiki.ma.gnolia.com/Category:Microformats microformats category] to the ma.gnolia wiki, with information, and then added it to appropriate pages --[[User:CarlaHufstedler|Carla]] 10:37, 3 Sep 2007 (PDT)
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=== hCalendar Successes===
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=== OpenStreetMap ===
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* I've just added Geo to OpenStreetMap documentation pages - see [http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Birmingham Birmingham page on OpenStreetMap] for example. [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]] 02:39, 6 Apr 2007 (PDT)
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* [http://www.openstreetmap.org OpenStreetMap] uses the geo microformat on its wiki for place pages (added by [http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/User:Pigsonthewing Andy Mabbett]) and also on the GPS trace pages and diary entry pages ([http://www.dankarran.com/blog/archives/2007/09/04/pinpoint_your_openstreetmap_diary_entries.php added] by [http://www.dankarran.com Dan Karran]).
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*Details of hCalendar should be added to the [http://www.imc.org/pdi/ Internet Mail Consortium's vCalendar page]
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**Requested by e-mail, 2006-11-24 [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]
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For successes on Wikipedia, see the list of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Templates_generating_microformats Wikipedia templates generating microformats].
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**'''Success''' achieved 2006-11-27. [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]
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===Geo Successes===
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**All articles on places, e.g. [http://wikitravel.org/en/Birmingham_%28England%29 Wikitravel guide to Birmingham, England]
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** '''Success''' achieved 2006-12-13, per [http://wikitravel.org/shared/Tech:Add_SpecialMap_using_Mapstraction_link_for_geo-tagged_pages_and_for_single_listings] see, for example, [http://wikitravel.org/en/Birmingham_%28England%29 Wikitravel guide to Birmingham, England] [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]
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== Comparisons With Alternative Approaches ==
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=== CalDAV ===
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Geo on Wikipedia:
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*Wikipedia-IT now has Geo on all  [http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speciale:PuntanoQui/Template:Coord pages using the ''coord'' template], e.g. [http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messina Messina]. [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]] 07:05, 26 May 2007 (PDT)
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*I've added geo to [http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Whatlinkshere/Template:Location_dec_US all images tagged in Wikimedia Commons] using decimal values. Example: [http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Montreal_City_Hall_Jan_2006.jpg Montreal City Hall, Jan 2006]  [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]] 08:54, 12 Apr 2007 (PDT)
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**Now on pages tagged in D-M-S also.
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* Wikipedia-NL now has Geo on all its map-links pages, e.g. [http://www.nsesoftware.nl/wiki/maps.asp?params=52_28_47_N_1_53_51_W_type:city_region:GB&src=Birmingham_%28Engeland%29 maps for Wikipedia-NL article on Birmingham]
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**Called from '''87,724''' article pages as of 2006-04-09; reportedly the sixth most popular website in the Netherlands [http://www.multiscope.nl/organisatie/nieuws/sberichten/nederlandse-wikipedia-groeit-als-kool.html].
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* I recently added Geo to Wikipedia-DE's map link pages  e.g. [http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?language=de&params=52_28_47_N_1_53_51_W_type:city_region:GB maps for Wikipedia-DE article on Birmingham]. [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]] 14:27, 9 Apr 2007 (PDT)
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====Brian Suda====
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* I've [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template%3AGeoTemplate&diff=119003866&oldid=118216477 just added] Geo to Wikipedia's [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:GeoTemplate GeoTemplate] which is called by '''many thousands''' of other Wikipedia pages. Example: the coordinates (top right) in [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Barr] link to [http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=52.54833_N_1.93212_W_region:GB_source:enwiki-osgb36(SP047945)]; the latter now has a Geo microformat. [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]] 03:38, 30 Mar 2007 (PDT)
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The other great thing about exposing your data as microformats, is that the data becomes Open Data. Will the general public have access to the CalDAV? (probably not) and even if they did, it will probably only serve-up .ics files... what if i don't want ICS? i need to then hack that around to get it into the format that i want... if the data were in the HTML to begin with, then i could EASILY convert that to any format i wanted. Also, sites like http://pingerati.net/ will happily take in hCalendar data and aggregate it, make your data more valuable and easily slurped up by other providers - i don't see that happening as easily with a CalDAV.
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** [http://tools.wikimedia.de/~kolossos/wp-world/imageworld-art.php Map showing global distribution of Geo-tagged Wikipedia articles].
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== old ==
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With respect to CalDAV: I spoke to the CalDAV chaps at Apple about this, they have hCalendar support as a ticket in their db:
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These sites have shown no activity for 6 months or more and thus are perhaps not worth the effort.
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http://trac.macosforge.org/projects/calendarserver/ticket/19
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*<span id="ClearForest">[http://sws.clearforest.com/ ClearForest Semantic Web Services ]</span> - uses natural language processing tools to recognise people, organisations, places, events and CVs (resumes) in web pages. Would benefit from recognising hCard, hResume, hCalendar, Geo, Adr, etc. Could also use them in its output.
== See Also ==
== See Also ==

Current revision


A lot can be done to help advocate the use of microformats. Often, simply by taking an existing site, and adding the suggested microformatting to a few of its pages as examples is all that is necessary to help the developers of the site add the microformats to the site itself. Applications, such as browsers, could also use some guidance on how to best support microformats.

Sometimes advocacy requires comparison and analysis of alternative technologies or approaches. As Mike Schinkel pointed out, we need good answers to comments like "No, we're going to use XYZ instead...".

The goal for this page is to include pointers for how to advocate microformats on new sites and on existing sites that are considering or using alternative approaches, as well as applications that can benefit from supporting microformats.

For general resources for marketing microformats, see spread-microformats.

Contents

Adding microformats to Existing Sites

Add sites here that you think would benefit from the addition of microformats. For now they are grouped by the microformat which would primarily benefit the site. Feel free to take a look at some of the sites on this list, document sample pages to be microformatted, add microformats to them, and then add the before/after of the key sections of mark-up to another wiki page for that site.

Successes are also noted; the most recent are flagged as Success!.

If your successes resulted from emails that you sent to site owners/developers, please consider sharing your successful advocacy emails on the advocacy-email-samples page, and along with each email sample, list the sites which responded positively to your email. This way others in the community can learn from your success and hopefully use your email samples to contact additional sites and get them to adopt microformats.

organization

For now this section is organized primarily by microformat, as that's easier for the community to document and keep track of.

However, it may be more useful to publishers if we created another section organized by type of site.

E.g.:

etc.

by microformat

h-entry

browsers

Browser support of microformats, both built-in, and via plug-ins and extension helps users make better use of the numerous existing sites that have microformats support, as well as encourage sites and site developers to add microformats support.

See browser-advocacy.

publishing tools

Getting publishing tools adopt microformats will perhaps have the biggest impact on expanding the adoption and support of microformats. See cms for current publishing platform support.

Others:

web agencies

More and more web-agencies are supporting microformats both on their own sites and on sites they build.

Getting more web design, development, etc. agencies and related efforts to adopt microformats also has the indirect benefit of them supporting microformats in the sites they build and develop.

If you are a strong and vocal supporter of microformats in your work, please feel free to add yourself to the

online tutorials

Add microformats2 to topical online tutorials, especially if they already have classic microformats examples that can be updated.

multiple microformats

In general add such sites to the page for the primary microformat which would benefit from the sites' support. See above.

successes

Magnolia

ma.gnolia supports many microformats. These should all be incorporated into the examples-in-the-wild pages for each specific microformat.

1296152892_20108bd860_d.jpg (click for larger version)

OpenStreetMap

Wikipedia

For successes on Wikipedia, see the list of Wikipedia templates generating microformats.

See also the individual microformats advocacy pages for specific microformat successes.

Specifics:

Geo on Wikipedia:

old

These sites have shown no activity for 6 months or more and thus are perhaps not worth the effort.

See Also

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