Microformats Wiki - User contributions [en]

irc

2006-07-26T05:03:19Z

DeanEro: /* People on irc */ added deanero (-0800/-0700)

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= Microformats IRC =

We have an IRC channel, [irc://irc.freenode.net#microformats #microformats on the freenode network].

There's typically someone there at any point during the day, though there isn't always active discussion. Sometimes, though this is the best place to discuss issues that need lots of back and forth discussion.

== People on irc ==
A list of IRC regulars and their normal timezones. (winter/summer)

* [[User:Adam Craven|AdamCraven]] (+0000)
* [[User:Amette|amette]] (+1000)
* [[User:B.K._DeLong|bkdelong]] (-0500/-0400)
* [[User:Ben Ward|BenWard]] (+0000)
* [[User:BenjaminCarlyle|BenjaminCarlyle]] (+1000)
* [[User:Boneill|boneill]] (+0000)
* [[User:Brian|briansuda]] (-0600/-0500)
* [[User:ColinDDevroe|cdevroe]] (-0500/-0600)
* [[User:Cgriego|cgriego]] (-0600/-0500)
* [[User:ChrisCasciano|pnhChris]] (-0500/-0400)
* [[User:ChrisMessina|factoryjoe]] (-0800/-0700)
* [[User:ChristopherStJohn|cks]] (-0600/-0500)
* [[User:DanC|DanC]] (-0600/-0500)
** office hours: Wednesday afternoons, America/Chicago time
* [[User:Dave Cardwell|davecardwell]] (+0000)
* [[User:DeanEro|deanero]] (-0800/-0700)
* [[User:DimitriGlazkov|dglazkov]] (-0600/-0500)
* [[User:DrewMcLellan|drewinthehead]] (+0000/+0100)
* [[User:EdwardOConnor|hober]] (-0800/-0700)
* [[User:Enric|enric]] (-0800/-0700)
* [[User:Evan|evanpro]] (-0500)
* [[User:Fil|Fil]] (+0200)
* [[User:Grantbow|Grantbow]] (-0800/-0700)
* [[User:Hlb|hlb]] (+0800-0700)
* [[User:IanHickson|Hixie]] (-0800/-0700)
* [[User:Izo|IZO]]
* [[User:JoeGregorio|jcgregorio]]
* [[User:Jonathan_Arkell|jonnay]] (-0700/0600)
* [[User:Keri Henare|kerihenare]] (+1200)
* [http://epeus.blogspot.com/ KevinMarks] (-0800/-0700)
* [[User:Mark Mansour|Mark Mansour]] (+1100)
* [[User:MarkNormanFrancis|Mark Norman Francis]] (+0000/+0100)
* [[User:neuro|neuro`]]
* [[User:Phae|Phae]] (+0000/+0100)
* [[User:PriitLaes|plaes]] (+0200/+0300)
* [[User:Remi|Remi]] (-0500/-0400)
* [[User:RobertBachmann|RobertBachmann]] (+0100/+0200)
** Office hours: <del>Wednesday, 18:00-20:00 UTC</del> (Currently no office hours)
* [[User:RyanKing|kingryan]] (-0800/-0700)
** [http://theryanking.com/blog/archives/2006/04/19/office-hours/ Office hours]: Wednesday, 21:00 UTC
* [[User:Csarven|csarven]] (-0500/-0400)
* [[User:Dana Benson|Snowden]] (-0800/-0700)
* [[User:Steve Ganz|SteveGanz]] (-0800/-0700)
* [[User:Tantek|Tantek]] (-0800/-0700)
* [[User:Trovster|trovster]] (-0800/-0700)
* [[User:Dan Kubb|dkubb]] (-0800/-0700)
* [[User:Ed Summers|edsu]] (-0500/-0400)
* [[User:Smackman|Steve Farrell]] (-0800/-0700)
* [[User:Enric|Enric]] (-0800/-0700)
* [[User:Charlvn|Charl]] (+0200/+0200)
* [[User:MarkoMrdjenovic|friedcell]] (+0100/+0200)
* [[User:Vant|vant]] (+0900)
* [[User:IwaiMasaharu|iwaim]] (+0900)
* [[User:Richard Conyard|WhiskeyM]] (+0000)

=== Greetings ===

To display a brief description of who you are each time you join the channel, you can create a definition for your username. To do so pass the <tt>?def</tt> command using something like the following convention (be brief):

<code>?def jdoe is John Doe and can be found online at <nowiki>http://www.jdoewebsite.com</nowiki></code>

More information about using JiBot commands can be found on the [http://joiwiki.ito.com/joiwiki/index.cgi?jibot jibot website]

=== bots ===

* [[mfbot]]
* [[mflogbot]]
* [http://joiwiki.ito.com/joiwiki/index.cgi?jibot jibot]

== Logs ==

Available here: http://rbach.priv.at/Microformats-IRC/

Atom feed of logs available here: http://microformat.makedatamakesense.com/log_feed/

== IRC meetups ==

The idea of having IRC meetups (that is, a set time for meeting on IRC) has been suggested by [[User:RyanKing|Ryan King]], as it appears to work well for the WordPress community and may help us from time-to-time. As of yet, there are no plans to have meetups, though.

media-formats

2006-07-10T05:18:18Z

DeanEro: /* Current Media Formats */ AVI RIFF tags and reference

= Current Media Formats =

This page serves to document a list of media file metadata schemas, formats, and efforts as background for the design of a ''simple'' media info [[microformat]]. Rather than attempting a comprehensive analysis of existing formats (like [[media-metadata-examples]]), the main aim of this document is to just list common formats along with associated metadata in the hopes that it helps pave the way for later analysis and brainstorming. Although some playlist/distribution formats are listed, ideally playlists would be treated as a seperate problem and handled elsewhere.

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== Contributors ==

* [[DeanEro|Dean Hudson, Sub Pop Records]]

== See Also ==
* [[media-info-examples]]
* [[media-info-brainstorming]]
* [[music-examples]]
* [[media-metadata-examples]]

== Media File Formats ==

What follows is a pretty general list of media file formats in use on the internet. I haven't really listed much in the way of specific metadata formats or made a distinction between container formats and codecs. The idea is to start with common formats that people use and examine the user facing data that they provide. Hopefully this can be done without getting too bogged down in the nuts and bolts of each format. -[[DeanEro|Dean]]

===Audio Formats===
* AAC (Advanced Audio Coding, most commonly iTunes and ITMS)
** ID3v2
* [http://www.borg.com/~jglatt/tech/aiff.htm AIFF (Audio Interchange File Format)]
** AIFF defines '''Name''', '''Author''', '''Copyright''' and '''Annotation''' as optional text chunks in the flie format.
** iTunes attaches ID3 information to AIFF files that it encodes
* ALAC (Apple Lossless)
* ATRAC (Sony proprietary)
* ATRAC3 (Used by SonyConnect)
* ATRAC3plus
* AU
* FLAC
** FLAC native
** Ogg FLAC
* Liquid Audio (Does this still exist in practice?)
* MIDI (Musical Instrument Digital Interface)
* MP3 (MPEG1, Audio Layer 3)
** ID3
** ID3v2
* SDII (Sound Designer II)
* Vorbis (Ogg Vorbis)
* WAV
* WMA (Windows Media Audio)

===Video Formats===
* MOV (QuickTime)
* DV (Digital Video)
* SWF
* WMV (Windows Media Video)

===Image Formats===
* BMP (Windows Bitmap Image)
* GIF (Graphic Interchange Format)
* JPEG
* PSD
* [http://www.libpng.org/pub/png/spec/1.2/PNG-Chunks.html#C.Summary-of-standard-chunks PNG text chunks] '''Title''', '''Author''', '''Description''', '''Copyright''', '''Creation Time''', '''Software''', '''Disclaimer''', '''Warning''', '''Source''' and '''Comment'''
* [http://www.awaresystems.be/imaging/tiff/tifftags/baseline.html TIFF (Tag Image File Format) baseline tags]

===Container and Metadeta Formats===
* [http://www.id3.org/id3v1.html ID3v1]
* [http://www.id3.org/develop.html ID3v2]
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AVI AVI] (Audio/Video Interleaved) (From RIFF base tags) '''Name''', '''Artist''', '''Copyright''', '''Product''', '''Creation Date''', '''Genre''', '''Subject''', '''Keywords''' and '''Comments'''. [http://abcavi.kibi.ru/infotags.htm This table] lists tags defined in AVI variations.
* MPEG
* [http://developer.apple.com/documentation/QuickTime/QTFF/QTFFChap2/chapter_3_section_2.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/TP40000939-CH204-DontLinkElementID_293 QuickTime User Data]
** QuickTime understands '''Copyright''', '''Creation Date''', '''Director''', '''Edit Dates''', '''Format''', '''Movie Info''' (?), '''Producer Name''', '''Performers' Names''', '''Hardware/Software Requirements''', '''Source Credits''' and '''Writer's Name''' user data atoms.
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ogg Ogg]
** [http://www.xiph.org/vorbis/doc/v-comment.html Ogg Vorbis Comments]. Recommended fields include: '''Title''', '''Version''', '''Album''', '''Track Number''', '''Artist''', '''Performer''', '''Copyright''', '''License''', '''Organization''', '''Description''', '''Genre''', '''Date''', '''Location''', '''Contact''' and '''ISRC'''
** [http://wiki.xiph.org/Metadata Ogg Vorbis XML/RDF+Dublin Core (Draft Proposal)]

===Distribution/Sydication Formats===
* RSS2 (podcasting)
* Atom (podcasting)
* M3U
* PLS
* RTP/RTSP
* FLV

==Notes==
The above list is just a brainstorm of existing media formats and, as such, is bound to contain some not-quite-so-useful examples. But hopefully it'll help reveal some common elements shared in currently published media and help reinvigorate [[media-info-brainstorming]].

== Next Steps ==
# A section for descriptive, data-only formats (MusicBrainz, etc.) or does that belong in media-info-examples?
# Add links to specifications for formats.
# Provide brief summaries of descriptive information provided by the formats with a focus on user visible information.
# Find the common ground.

media-formats

2006-07-09T04:57:29Z

DeanEro: /* Image Formats */ standard PNG text chunks

= Current Media Formats =

This page serves to document a list of media file metadata schemas, formats, and efforts as background for the design of a ''simple'' media info [[microformat]]. Rather than attempting a comprehensive analysis of existing formats (like [[media-metadata-examples]]), the main aim of this document is to just list common formats along with associated metadata in the hopes that it helps pave the way for later analysis and brainstorming. Although some playlist/distribution formats are listed, ideally playlists would be treated as a seperate problem and handled elsewhere. (That problem being: how should one describe a ''collection'' of media?)

__TOC__

== Contributors ==

* [[DeanEro|Dean Hudson, Sub Pop Records]]

== See Also ==
* [[media-info-examples]]
* [[media-info-brainstorming]]
* [[music-examples]]
* [[media-metadata-examples]]

== Media File Formats ==

What follows is a pretty general list of media file formats in use on the internet. I haven't really listed much in the way of specific metadata formats or made a distinction between container formats and codecs. The idea is to start with common formats that people use and examine the user facing data that they provide. Hopefully this can be done without getting too bogged down in the nuts and bolts of each format. -[[DeanEro|Dean]]

===Audio Formats===
* AAC (Advanced Audio Coding, most commonly iTunes and ITMS)
** ID3v2
* [http://www.borg.com/~jglatt/tech/aiff.htm AIFF (Audio Interchange File Format)]
** AIFF defines '''Name''', '''Author''', '''Copyright''' and '''Annotation''' as optional text chunks in the flie format.
** iTunes attaches ID3 information to AIFF files that it encodes
* ALAC (Apple Lossless)
* ATRAC (Sony proprietary)
* ATRAC3 (Used by SonyConnect)
* ATRAC3plus
* AU
* FLAC
** FLAC native
** Ogg FLAC
* Liquid Audio (Does this still exist in practice?)
* MIDI (Musical Instrument Digital Interface)
* MP3 (MPEG1, Audio Layer 3)
** ID3
** ID3v2
* SDII (Sound Designer II)
* Vorbis (Ogg Vorbis)
* WAV
* WMA (Windows Media Audio)

===Video Formats===
* AVI (Audio/Video Interleaved)
* MPEG
* MOV (QuickTime)
* DV (Digital Video)
* SWF
* WMV (Windows Media Video)

===Image Formats===
* BMP (Windows Bitmap Image)
* GIF (Graphic Interchange Format)
* JPEG
* PSD
* [http://www.libpng.org/pub/png/spec/1.2/PNG-Chunks.html#C.Summary-of-standard-chunks PNG text chunks] '''Title''', '''Author''', '''Description''', '''Copyright''', '''Creation Time''', '''Software''', '''Disclaimer''', '''Warning''', '''Source''' and '''Comment'''
* [http://www.awaresystems.be/imaging/tiff/tifftags/baseline.html TIFF (Tag Image File Format) baseline tags]

===Container and Metadeta Formats===
* [http://www.id3.org/id3v1.html ID3v1]
* [http://www.id3.org/develop.html ID3v2]
* [http://developer.apple.com/documentation/QuickTime/QTFF/QTFFChap2/chapter_3_section_2.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/TP40000939-CH204-DontLinkElementID_293 QuickTime User Data]
** QuickTime understands '''Copyright''', '''Creation Date''', '''Director''', '''Edit Dates''', '''Format''', '''Movie Info''' (?), '''Producer Name''', '''Performers' Names''', '''Hardware/Software Requirements''', '''Source Credits''' and '''Writer's Name''' user data atoms.
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ogg Ogg]
** [http://www.xiph.org/vorbis/doc/v-comment.html Ogg Vorbis Comments]. Recommended fields include: '''Title''', '''Version''', '''Album''', '''Track Number''', '''Artist''', '''Performer''', '''Copyright''', '''License''', '''Organization''', '''Description''', '''Genre''', '''Date''', '''Location''', '''Contact''' and '''ISRC'''
** [http://wiki.xiph.org/Metadata Ogg Vorbis XML/RDF+Dublin Core (Draft Proposal)]

===Distribution/Sydication Formats===
* RSS2 (podcasting)
* Atom (podcasting)
* M3U
* PLS
* RTP/RTSP
* FLV

==Notes==
The above list is just a brainstorm of existing media formats and, as such, is bound to contain some not-quite-so-useful examples. But hopefully it'll help reveal some common elements shared in currently published media and help reinvigorate [[media-info-brainstorming]].

== Next Steps ==
# A section for descriptive, data-only formats (MusicBrainz, etc.) or does that belong in media-info-examples?
# Add links to specifications for formats.
# Provide brief summaries of descriptive information provided by the formats with a focus on user visible information.
# Find the common ground.

media-formats

2006-07-09T04:44:54Z

DeanEro: /* Image Formats */ link to baseline tiff tags

= Current Media Formats =

This page serves to document a list of media file metadata schemas, formats, and efforts as background for the design of a ''simple'' media info [[microformat]]. Rather than attempting a comprehensive analysis of existing formats (like [[media-metadata-examples]]), the main aim of this document is to just list common formats along with associated metadata in the hopes that it helps pave the way for later analysis and brainstorming. Although some playlist/distribution formats are listed, ideally playlists would be treated as a seperate problem and handled elsewhere. (That problem being: how should one describe a ''collection'' of media?)

__TOC__

== Contributors ==

* [[DeanEro|Dean Hudson, Sub Pop Records]]

== See Also ==
* [[media-info-examples]]
* [[media-info-brainstorming]]
* [[music-examples]]
* [[media-metadata-examples]]

== Media File Formats ==

What follows is a pretty general list of media file formats in use on the internet. I haven't really listed much in the way of specific metadata formats or made a distinction between container formats and codecs. The idea is to start with common formats that people use and examine the user facing data that they provide. Hopefully this can be done without getting too bogged down in the nuts and bolts of each format. -[[DeanEro|Dean]]

===Audio Formats===
* AAC (Advanced Audio Coding, most commonly iTunes and ITMS)
** ID3v2
* [http://www.borg.com/~jglatt/tech/aiff.htm AIFF (Audio Interchange File Format)]
** AIFF defines '''Name''', '''Author''', '''Copyright''' and '''Annotation''' as optional text chunks in the flie format.
** iTunes attaches ID3 information to AIFF files that it encodes
* ALAC (Apple Lossless)
* ATRAC (Sony proprietary)
* ATRAC3 (Used by SonyConnect)
* ATRAC3plus
* AU
* FLAC
** FLAC native
** Ogg FLAC
* Liquid Audio (Does this still exist in practice?)
* MIDI (Musical Instrument Digital Interface)
* MP3 (MPEG1, Audio Layer 3)
** ID3
** ID3v2
* SDII (Sound Designer II)
* Vorbis (Ogg Vorbis)
* WAV
* WMA (Windows Media Audio)

===Video Formats===
* AVI (Audio/Video Interleaved)
* MPEG
* MOV (QuickTime)
* DV (Digital Video)
* SWF
* WMV (Windows Media Video)

===Image Formats===
* BMP (Windows Bitmap Image)
* GIF (Graphic Interchange Format)
* JPEG
* PSD
* [http://www.awaresystems.be/imaging/tiff/tifftags/baseline.html TIFF (Tag Image File Format) baseline tags]

===Container and Metadeta Formats===
* [http://www.id3.org/id3v1.html ID3v1]
* [http://www.id3.org/develop.html ID3v2]
* [http://developer.apple.com/documentation/QuickTime/QTFF/QTFFChap2/chapter_3_section_2.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/TP40000939-CH204-DontLinkElementID_293 QuickTime User Data]
** QuickTime understands '''Copyright''', '''Creation Date''', '''Director''', '''Edit Dates''', '''Format''', '''Movie Info''' (?), '''Producer Name''', '''Performers' Names''', '''Hardware/Software Requirements''', '''Source Credits''' and '''Writer's Name''' user data atoms.
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ogg Ogg]
** [http://www.xiph.org/vorbis/doc/v-comment.html Ogg Vorbis Comments]. Recommended fields include: '''Title''', '''Version''', '''Album''', '''Track Number''', '''Artist''', '''Performer''', '''Copyright''', '''License''', '''Organization''', '''Description''', '''Genre''', '''Date''', '''Location''', '''Contact''' and '''ISRC'''
** [http://wiki.xiph.org/Metadata Ogg Vorbis XML/RDF+Dublin Core (Draft Proposal)]

===Distribution/Sydication Formats===
* RSS2 (podcasting)
* Atom (podcasting)
* M3U
* PLS
* RTP/RTSP
* FLV

==Notes==
The above list is just a brainstorm of existing media formats and, as such, is bound to contain some not-quite-so-useful examples. But hopefully it'll help reveal some common elements shared in currently published media and help reinvigorate [[media-info-brainstorming]].

== Next Steps ==
# A section for descriptive, data-only formats (MusicBrainz, etc.) or does that belong in media-info-examples?
# Add links to specifications for formats.
# Provide brief summaries of descriptive information provided by the formats with a focus on user visible information.
# Find the common ground.

media-formats

2006-07-09T04:34:40Z

DeanEro: /* Container and Metadeta Formats */ ID3 links, Ogg Vorbis Comments and Ogg Vorbis XML/RDF draft link

= Current Media Formats =

This page serves to document a list of media file metadata schemas, formats, and efforts as background for the design of a ''simple'' media info [[microformat]]. Rather than attempting a comprehensive analysis of existing formats (like [[media-metadata-examples]]), the main aim of this document is to just list common formats along with associated metadata in the hopes that it helps pave the way for later analysis and brainstorming. Although some playlist/distribution formats are listed, ideally playlists would be treated as a seperate problem and handled elsewhere. (That problem being: how should one describe a ''collection'' of media?)

__TOC__

== Contributors ==

* [[DeanEro|Dean Hudson, Sub Pop Records]]

== See Also ==
* [[media-info-examples]]
* [[media-info-brainstorming]]
* [[music-examples]]
* [[media-metadata-examples]]

== Media File Formats ==

What follows is a pretty general list of media file formats in use on the internet. I haven't really listed much in the way of specific metadata formats or made a distinction between container formats and codecs. The idea is to start with common formats that people use and examine the user facing data that they provide. Hopefully this can be done without getting too bogged down in the nuts and bolts of each format. -[[DeanEro|Dean]]

===Audio Formats===
* AAC (Advanced Audio Coding, most commonly iTunes and ITMS)
** ID3v2
* [http://www.borg.com/~jglatt/tech/aiff.htm AIFF (Audio Interchange File Format)]
** AIFF defines '''Name''', '''Author''', '''Copyright''' and '''Annotation''' as optional text chunks in the flie format.
** iTunes attaches ID3 information to AIFF files that it encodes
* ALAC (Apple Lossless)
* ATRAC (Sony proprietary)
* ATRAC3 (Used by SonyConnect)
* ATRAC3plus
* AU
* FLAC
** FLAC native
** Ogg FLAC
* Liquid Audio (Does this still exist in practice?)
* MIDI (Musical Instrument Digital Interface)
* MP3 (MPEG1, Audio Layer 3)
** ID3
** ID3v2
* SDII (Sound Designer II)
* Vorbis (Ogg Vorbis)
* WAV
* WMA (Windows Media Audio)

===Video Formats===
* AVI (Audio/Video Interleaved)
* MPEG
* MOV (QuickTime)
* DV (Digital Video)
* SWF
* WMV (Windows Media Video)

===Image Formats===
* BMP (Windows Bitmap Image)
* GIF (Graphic Interchange Format)
* JPEG
* PSD
* TIFF (Tag Image File Format)

===Container and Metadeta Formats===
* [http://www.id3.org/id3v1.html ID3v1]
* [http://www.id3.org/develop.html ID3v2]
* [http://developer.apple.com/documentation/QuickTime/QTFF/QTFFChap2/chapter_3_section_2.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/TP40000939-CH204-DontLinkElementID_293 QuickTime User Data]
** QuickTime understands '''Copyright''', '''Creation Date''', '''Director''', '''Edit Dates''', '''Format''', '''Movie Info''' (?), '''Producer Name''', '''Performers' Names''', '''Hardware/Software Requirements''', '''Source Credits''' and '''Writer's Name''' user data atoms.
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ogg Ogg]
** [http://www.xiph.org/vorbis/doc/v-comment.html Ogg Vorbis Comments]. Recommended fields include: '''Title''', '''Version''', '''Album''', '''Track Number''', '''Artist''', '''Performer''', '''Copyright''', '''License''', '''Organization''', '''Description''', '''Genre''', '''Date''', '''Location''', '''Contact''' and '''ISRC'''
** [http://wiki.xiph.org/Metadata Ogg Vorbis XML/RDF+Dublin Core (Draft Proposal)]

===Distribution/Sydication Formats===
* RSS2 (podcasting)
* Atom (podcasting)
* M3U
* PLS
* RTP/RTSP
* FLV

==Notes==
The above list is just a brainstorm of existing media formats and, as such, is bound to contain some not-quite-so-useful examples. But hopefully it'll help reveal some common elements shared in currently published media and help reinvigorate [[media-info-brainstorming]].

== Next Steps ==
# A section for descriptive, data-only formats (MusicBrainz, etc.) or does that belong in media-info-examples?
# Add links to specifications for formats.
# Provide brief summaries of descriptive information provided by the formats with a focus on user visible information.
# Find the common ground.

media-formats

2006-07-09T03:06:32Z

DeanEro: /* Media File Formats */ QuickTime user data atoms

= Current Media Formats =

This page serves to document a list of media file metadata schemas, formats, and efforts as background for the design of a ''simple'' media info [[microformat]]. Rather than attempting a comprehensive analysis of existing formats (like [[media-metadata-examples]]), the main aim of this document is to just list common formats along with associated metadata in the hopes that it helps pave the way for later analysis and brainstorming. Although some playlist/distribution formats are listed, ideally playlists would be treated as a seperate problem and handled elsewhere. (That problem being: how should one describe a ''collection'' of media?)

__TOC__

== Contributors ==

* [[DeanEro|Dean Hudson, Sub Pop Records]]

== See Also ==
* [[media-info-examples]]
* [[media-info-brainstorming]]
* [[music-examples]]
* [[media-metadata-examples]]

== Media File Formats ==

What follows is a pretty general list of media file formats in use on the internet. I haven't really listed much in the way of specific metadata formats or made a distinction between container formats and codecs. The idea is to start with common formats that people use and examine the user facing data that they provide. Hopefully this can be done without getting too bogged down in the nuts and bolts of each format. -[[DeanEro|Dean]]

===Audio Formats===
* AAC (Advanced Audio Coding, most commonly iTunes and ITMS)
** ID3v2
* [http://www.borg.com/~jglatt/tech/aiff.htm AIFF (Audio Interchange File Format)]
** AIFF defines '''Name''', '''Author''', '''Copyright''' and '''Annotation''' as optional text chunks in the flie format.
** iTunes attaches ID3 information to AIFF files that it encodes
* ALAC (Apple Lossless)
* ATRAC (Sony proprietary)
* ATRAC3 (Used by SonyConnect)
* ATRAC3plus
* AU
* FLAC
** FLAC native
** Ogg FLAC
* Liquid Audio (Does this still exist in practice?)
* MIDI (Musical Instrument Digital Interface)
* MP3 (MPEG1, Audio Layer 3)
** ID3
** ID3v2
* SDII (Sound Designer II)
* Vorbis (Ogg Vorbis)
* WAV
* WMA (Windows Media Audio)

===Video Formats===
* AVI (Audio/Video Interleaved)
* MPEG
* MOV (QuickTime)
* DV (Digital Video)
* SWF
* WMV (Windows Media Video)

===Image Formats===
* BMP (Windows Bitmap Image)
* GIF (Graphic Interchange Format)
* JPEG
* PSD
* TIFF (Tag Image File Format)

===Container and Metadeta Formats===
* ID3
* ID3v2
* [http://developer.apple.com/documentation/QuickTime/QTFF/QTFFChap2/chapter_3_section_2.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/TP40000939-CH204-DontLinkElementID_293 QuickTime User Data]
** QuickTime understands '''Copyright''', '''Creation Date''', '''Director''', '''Edit Dates''', '''Format''', '''Movie Info''' (?), '''Producer Name''', '''Performers' Names''', '''Hardware/Software Requirements''', '''Source Credits''' and '''Writer's Name''' user data atoms.

===Distribution/Sydication Formats===
* RSS2 (podcasting)
* Atom (podcasting)
* M3U
* PLS
* RTP/RTSP
* FLV

==Notes==
The above list is just a brainstorm of existing media formats and, as such, is bound to contain some not-quite-so-useful examples. But hopefully it'll help reveal some common elements shared in currently published media and help reinvigorate [[media-info-brainstorming]].

== Next Steps ==
# A section for descriptive, data-only formats (MusicBrainz, etc.) or does that belong in media-info-examples?
# Add links to specifications for formats.
# Provide brief summaries of descriptive information provided by the formats with a focus on user visible information.
# Find the common ground.

media-formats

2006-07-09T02:35:21Z

DeanEro: /* Audio Formats */ aiff info

media-formats

2006-07-05T01:48:08Z

DeanEro: /* Current Media Info Formats */

media-formats

2006-07-05T01:45:32Z

DeanEro: a first pass at a new, simple listing of media formats which will hopefully lead to simple description of common metadata which will hopefully be useful to restart media-info-brainstorming

= Current Media Info Formats =

This page serves to document a list of media file metadata schemas, formats, and efforts as background for the design of a ''simple'' media info [[microformat]]. Rather than attempting a comprehensive analysis of existing formats (like [[media-metadata-examples]]), the main aim of this document is to just list common formats along with associated metadata in the hopes that it helps pave the way for later analysis and brainstorming. Although some playlist/distribution formats are listed, ideally playlists would be treated as a seperate problem and handled elsewhere. (That problem being: how should one describe a ''collection'' of media?)

__TOC__

== Contributors ==

* [[DeanEro|Dean Hudson, Sub Pop Records]]

== See Also ==
* [[media-info-examples]]
* [[media-info-brainstorming]]
* [[music-examples]]
* [[media-metadata-examples]]

== Media File Formats ==

What follows is a pretty general list of media file formats in use on the internet. I haven't really listed much in the way of specific metadata formats or made a distinction between container formats and codecs. The idea is to start with common formats that people use and examine the user facing data that they provide. Hopefully this can be done without getting too bogged down in the nuts and bolts of each format. -[[DeanEro|Dean]]

===Audio Formats===
* AAC (Advanced Audio Coding, most commonly iTunes and ITMS)
** ID3v2
* AIFF (Audio Interchange File Format)
* ALAC (Apple Lossless)
* ATRAC (Sony proprietary)
* ATRAC3 (Used by SonyConnect)
* ATRAC3plus
* AU
* FLAC
** FLAC native
** Ogg FLAC
* Liquid Audio (Does this still exist in practice?)
* MIDI (Musical Instrument Digital Interface)
* MP3 (MPEG1, Audio Layer 3)
** ID3
** ID3v2
* SDII (Sound Designer II)
* Vorbis (Ogg Vorbis)
* WAV
* WMA (Windows Media Audio)

===Video Formats===
* AVI (Audio/Video Interleaved)
* MPEG
* MOV (QuickTime)
* DV (Digital Video)
* SWF
* WMV (Windows Media Video)

===Image Formats===
* BMP (Windows Bitmap Image)
* GIF (Graphic Interchange Format)
* JPEG
* PSD
* TIFF (Tag Image File Format)

===Distribution/Sydication Formats===
* RSS2 (podcasting)
* Atom (podcasting)
* M3U
* PLS
* RTP/RTSP
* FLV

==Notes==
The above list is just a brainstorm of existing media formats and, as such, is bound to contain some not-quite-so-useful examples. But hopefully it'll help reveal some common elements shared in currently published media and help reinvigorate [[media-info-brainstorming]].

== Next Steps ==
# A section for descriptive, data-only formats (MusicBrainz, etc.) or does that belong in media-info-examples?
# Add links to specifications for formats.
# Provide brief summaries of descriptive information provided by the formats with a focus on user visible information.
# Find the common ground.

media-info-brainstorming

2006-07-01T01:00:40Z

DeanEro: /* Elements that come up often in practice */ removed ISRC until there's better justification

= Brainstroming for Media Microformat =

This is a brainstorm for media microformat. Examples of media-info can be found here [http://microformats.org/wiki/media-info-examples media-info-examples]

== Contributors ==

* [http://napsterization.org/stories/ Mary Hodder]
* [http://onlisareinsradar.com/ Lisa Rein]

== The Problem ==

There are infinite ways to publish media by users, but as people try to access those remixing and aggregation become more and more prevalent, having consistent records becomes important. Audio, photos and video show up in each other's publishing spaces, even though they are unique media objects. A photo might be next to the link for an audio piece, as it's visual artwork. A video can be comprised of quotes of other videos, photos and audio. Still photos can be made from videos. All three types of objects can contain subsets of media that is tagged and described. Having a single publishing format to relate them as needed in an organized structure makes sense.

== Elements that come up often in practice ==
Here are some examples of elements that might be included because they seem to come up often in user generated media publishing, either on their own blogs or on service sites, include the following:

Base elements:
* Title
* Html URL
* Media URL
* Image URL (video and audio)
* Tags
* Description / summary
* Quotes (subsets of the object: a video quote and tags/description associated with it, a region annotation note for a photo, or the quote of a podcast or audio piece, with tags/description -- the technical detail for these subsets exists in the 'more info' section below)
* Creator
* License (defaults to copyright, if none exists, but it's there, by US law, and many other areas of the world)

and for audio and visual:
* Duration

Other info:
(This is not the same for all types of media, and is published by users in very limited ways in practice, or is captured from the device or service or in some way, invisible to the user, and therefore often depends on a service to pick it up. It should only appear in a publishing tool under 'more data' at then end, for enthusiast users.)

<table border="1" cellspacing="2" cellpadding="2">

<tr><th>JPG</th><th>Video</th><th>Audio</th></tr>

<tr><th>Device</th><th>Device</th><th>Device</th></tr>

<tr><th>Ratio</th><th>Aspect Ratio</th><th>?</th></tr>

<tr><th>file size</th><th>file size</th><th>file size</th></tr>

<tr><th>.</th><th>audio codec</th><th>audio codec</th></tr>

<tr><th>.</th><th>video codec</th><th>.</th></tr>

<tr><th>.</th><th>bit / frame rate</th><th>bit rate</th></tr>

<tr><th>Portrait or Landscape</th><th>.</th><th>.</th></tr>

<tr><th>Region Annotation (subphotos: calculation of location, size)</th><th>Quotes of Video (subvideo: in and out points)</th><th>Quotes of Audio (subaudio: in and out points)</th></tr>

<tr><th>iPod compliant?</th><th>iPod compliant?</th><th>iPod compliant?</th></tr>

<tr><th>Time</th><th>Time</th><th>Date</th></tr>

<tr><th>Date</th><th>Date</th><th>Date</th></tr>

<tr><th>Inclusion in playlist?</th><th>Inclusion in playlist?</th><th>Inclusion in playlist?</th></tr>

</table>

music-examples

2006-07-01T00:46:30Z

DeanEro: /* Artist pages */ spin.com artist of the day

= Music Examples =
An attempt to gather together examples of pages describing, linking to, or referring to music.

== Participants ==
* [[User:RodBegbie | Rod Begbie]]
* [[User:DeanEro | Dean Hudson, Sub Pop Records]]

== Introduction ==

Examples of what people actually publish on the Web when discussing, linking to and referring to musical artists and their works. This is focused predominantly on the descriptions of artists and their releases. Track information is better covered in the more general [[media-info-examples]].

For the purposes of this discussion "artist" refers to the performing artist. That is, the individual or group that performed on a particular sound recording rather than the writer or composer of a song (in many cases, they're one in the same). This distinction has to do with the association between performers and particular sound recordings and the nuts and bolts of music copyright-- it's in no way an assertion about the definition of artistry.

Releases refer to collections sound recordings that are packaged together and made available together. Singles, EPs and albums would all be releases.

== Emphasis on Practical, Simple, and Minimal ==

Since all previous known attempts at this problem area have ended up quite complex and over-designed, this attempt will place simplicity and minimalism first and foremost.

Thus for now, this document is deliberately restricted to examples that are:
* ''Actual'' examples in practice on the Web '''with URLs''' to the originals (note, all *-examples pages should be like this, but previous attempts at documenting media info examples have mostly ignored this requirement, and thus it is necessary to be explicit).
* Representative of ''very common'' publishing behavior on the Web. This focus on common, representative examples is essential. If possible, include an estimate of the number of similar examples. E.g. ~10k.
* Simple and minimalist. As simple as possible. Go read [http://microformats.org/wiki/microformats#the_microformats_principles the microformats principles] right now before proceeding any further.

Any examples added which do not conform to these requirements will be deleted.

Any generic analysis will also be deleted. Analysis before examples is premature. Once there are sufficient media-info-examples, and hopefully a simple/clean listing of [[media-info-formats]], we'll hopefully start a [[media-info-brainstorming]] page to do aggregate analysis of the examples.

== Table of Contents ==

__TOC__

== Real World Examples ==

=== Commerce Sites ===
* TODO: Links to Amazon, buy.com, etc.

=== Music Journalism ===
* TODO: Links to NME, Rolling Stone, Paste, Q, Pitchfork
* TODO: Links to collaborative music review sites

=== Artist pages ===
Particularly, pages which provide information about performing artists.
* Official artist sites:
** [http://www.theshinsmusic.com/about.html The Shins Official Site] Bio page-- lifted from allmusic.com
** [http://www.bandofhorses.com Band of Horses Official Site]
* Artist pages on label sites:
** [http://www.subpop.com/scripts/main/bands_page.php?id=355 The Shins on subpop.com]
** [http://www.subpop.com/mock/sleater_kinney.html A pass at the mark-up of the future for subpop.com artist pages] (sorry, no stylesheet)
** [http://matadorrecords.com/cat_power/ Cat Power on matadorrecords.com]
** [http://www.epitaph.com/artists/artist/197/ Dangerdoom on epitaph.com]
** [http://www.mergerecords.com/band.php?band_id=98 Arcade Fire on mergerecords.com]
* Unofficial fan-run artist pages (TODO)
* Links to artists' myspace/tagworld/imeem pages:
** [http://www.myspace.com/theshins The Shins on MySpace]
** [http://www.myspace.com/thetrashies The Trashies on MySpace]
** [http://tagworld.com/bandofhorses Band of Horses on TagWorld]
** [http://scanners.imeem.com/ Scanners' on Imeem]
* Other high-traffic, non-artist run sites (AMG, last.fm, VH1.com, eMusic):
** [http://www.last.fm/music/The+Shins The Shins last.fm page]
** [http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=11:1e821v0jzzca Beatles on AllMusic]
** [http://www.emusic.com/artist/10557/10557751.html Ornette Coleman on eMusic]
** [http://www.vh1.com/artists/az/black_sabbath/artist.jhtml Black Sabbath on VH1.com]
* Music Journalism Artist Features
** [http://www.spin.com/features/band_of_the_day/ Spin.com Artist of the day]

=== Record Label pages ===
Label sites (like many artist sites) tend to not be the best examples of minimal, semantic mark up. They are, nonetheless, important and prevalent enough to list.
* Major label homepages
** [http://www.atlanticrecords.com/ Atlantic Records]
** [http://www.interscope.com/ Interscope Records]
** [http://www.sonymusic.com/home.html Sony Records] Pretty much all of the Sony sub-labels (Epic, Sony Nashville, etc.) use the same template with differing content.
** [http://www.bmgclassics.com/index.jsp BMG Classics]
** [http://www.umrg.com/ Universal Motown]
* Independent record labels:
** [http://www.subpop.com Sub Pop Records]
** [http://www.matadorrecords.com Matador Records]
** [http://www.epitaph.com/ Epitaph Records]
** [http://www.mergerecords.com/ Merge Records]
** [http://www.barsuk.com/home Barsuk Records]
** [http://www.suicidesqueeze.net/index2.html Suicide Squeeze Records]

=== Release Sites ===
Pages and/or small sites devoted to a specific release by an artist. These generally include release descriptions, track listings and album art. They may have links to downloadable or streamable media as well. Another note: artist bios are, in some cases, release specific-- from a label perspective they are often re-written every time an active artist has a new major release.
* Release sites created by record labels:
** [http://www.subpop.com/bands/rogue_wave/descended/ Rogue Wave, Descended Like Vultures]
** [http://www.subpop.com/bands/kinski/alpine_static/kinski_alpine_static.html Kinski, Alpine Static]
** [http://www.subpop.com/bands/fruitbats/spelled_in_bones/ Fruit Bats, Spelled in Bones]
** [http://www.subpop.com/bands/mudhoney/under_a_billion_suns/ Mudhoney, Under A Billion Suns]
* Release pages on label sites:
** [http://www.subpop.com/scripts/main/discography.php?cat=true&display_type=discog_single&title=Cansei+De+Ser+Sexy Cansei de Ser Sexy release page on subpop.com]
** [http://www.epitaph.com/artists/album/470 Pick a Bigger Weapon release page on epitaph.com]

=== Music database sites ===
* TODO: Musicbrainz, AMG, Muse, etc.

=== Social sites ===
* TODO: Last.fm, Myspace, LiveJournal?

media-info-brainstorming

2006-06-30T23:37:35Z

DeanEro: /* Elements that come up often in practice */ added ISRC- it's required by most digital distributors of audio and video

= Brainstroming for Media Microformat =

This is a brainstorm for media microformat. Examples of media-info can be found here [http://microformats.org/wiki/media-info-examples media-info-examples]

== Contributors ==

* [http://napsterization.org/stories/ Mary Hodder]
* [http://onlisareinsradar.com/ Lisa Rein]

== The Problem ==

There are infinite ways to publish media by users, but as people try to access those remixing and aggregation become more and more prevalent, having consistent records becomes important. Audio, photos and video show up in each other's publishing spaces, even though they are unique media objects. A photo might be next to the link for an audio piece, as it's visual artwork. A video can be comprised of quotes of other videos, photos and audio. Still photos can be made from videos. All three types of objects can contain subsets of media that is tagged and described. Having a single publishing format to relate them as needed in an organized structure makes sense.

== Elements that come up often in practice ==
Here are some examples of elements that might be included because they seem to come up often in user generated media publishing, either on their own blogs or on service sites, include the following:

Base elements:
* Title
* Html URL
* Media URL
* Image URL (video and audio)
* Tags
* Description / summary
* Quotes (subsets of the object: a video quote and tags/description associated with it, a region annotation note for a photo, or the quote of a podcast or audio piece, with tags/description -- the technical detail for these subsets exists in the 'more info' section below)
* Creator
* License (defaults to copyright, if none exists, but it's there, by US law, and many other areas of the world)

and for audio and visual:
* Duration
* ISRC (this is a unique identifier that is required for salable assets in most digital distribution channels)

Other info:
(This is not the same for all types of media, and is published by users in very limited ways in practice, or is captured from the device or service or in some way, invisible to the user, and therefore often depends on a service to pick it up. It should only appear in a publishing tool under 'more data' at then end, for enthusiast users.)

<table border="1" cellspacing="2" cellpadding="2">

<tr><th>JPG</th><th>Video</th><th>Audio</th></tr>

<tr><th>Device</th><th>Device</th><th>Device</th></tr>

<tr><th>Ratio</th><th>Aspect Ratio</th><th>?</th></tr>

<tr><th>file size</th><th>file size</th><th>file size</th></tr>

<tr><th>.</th><th>audio codec</th><th>audio codec</th></tr>

<tr><th>.</th><th>video codec</th><th>.</th></tr>

<tr><th>.</th><th>bit / frame rate</th><th>bit rate</th></tr>

<tr><th>Portrait or Landscape</th><th>.</th><th>.</th></tr>

<tr><th>Region Annotation (subphotos: calculation of location, size)</th><th>Quotes of Video (subvideo: in and out points)</th><th>Quotes of Audio (subaudio: in and out points)</th></tr>

<tr><th>iPod compliant?</th><th>iPod compliant?</th><th>iPod compliant?</th></tr>

<tr><th>Time</th><th>Time</th><th>Date</th></tr>

<tr><th>Date</th><th>Date</th><th>Date</th></tr>

<tr><th>Inclusion in playlist?</th><th>Inclusion in playlist?</th><th>Inclusion in playlist?</th></tr>

</table>

music-examples

2006-06-30T22:58:05Z

DeanEro: Added major label examples

= Music Examples =
An attempt to gather together examples of pages describing, linking to, or referring to music.

== Participants ==
* [[User:RodBegbie | Rod Begbie]]
* [[User:DeanEro | Dean Hudson, Sub Pop Records]]

== Introduction ==

Examples of what people actually publish on the Web when discussing, linking to and referring to musical artists and their works. This is focused predominantly on the descriptions of artists and their releases. Track information is better covered in the more general [[media-info-examples]].

For the purposes of this discussion "artist" refers to the performing artist. That is, the individual or group that performed on a particular sound recording rather than the writer or composer of a song (in many cases, they're one in the same). This distinction has to do with the association between performers and particular sound recordings and the nuts and bolts of music copyright-- it's in no way an assertion about the definition of artistry.

Releases refer to collections sound recordings that are packaged together and made available together. Singles, EPs and albums would all be releases.

== Emphasis on Practical, Simple, and Minimal ==

Since all previous known attempts at this problem area have ended up quite complex and over-designed, this attempt will place simplicity and minimalism first and foremost.

Thus for now, this document is deliberately restricted to examples that are:
* ''Actual'' examples in practice on the Web '''with URLs''' to the originals (note, all *-examples pages should be like this, but previous attempts at documenting media info examples have mostly ignored this requirement, and thus it is necessary to be explicit).
* Representative of ''very common'' publishing behavior on the Web. This focus on common, representative examples is essential. If possible, include an estimate of the number of similar examples. E.g. ~10k.
* Simple and minimalist. As simple as possible. Go read [http://microformats.org/wiki/microformats#the_microformats_principles the microformats principles] right now before proceeding any further.

Any examples added which do not conform to these requirements will be deleted.

Any generic analysis will also be deleted. Analysis before examples is premature. Once there are sufficient media-info-examples, and hopefully a simple/clean listing of [[media-info-formats]], we'll hopefully start a [[media-info-brainstorming]] page to do aggregate analysis of the examples.

== Table of Contents ==

__TOC__

== Real World Examples ==

=== Commerce Sites ===
* TODO: Links to Amazon, buy.com, etc.

=== Music Journalism ===
* TODO: Links to NME, Rolling Stone, Paste, Q, Pitchfork
* TODO: Links to collaborative music review sites

=== Artist pages ===
Particularly, pages which provide information about performing artists.
* Official artist sites:
** [http://www.theshinsmusic.com/about.html The Shins Official Site] Bio page-- lifted from allmusic.com
** [http://www.bandofhorses.com Band of Horses Official Site]
* Artist pages on label sites:
** [http://www.subpop.com/scripts/main/bands_page.php?id=355 The Shins on subpop.com]
** [http://www.subpop.com/mock/sleater_kinney.html A pass at the mark-up of the future for subpop.com artist pages] (sorry, no stylesheet)
** [http://matadorrecords.com/cat_power/ Cat Power on matadorrecords.com]
** [http://www.epitaph.com/artists/artist/197/ Dangerdoom on epitaph.com]
** [http://www.mergerecords.com/band.php?band_id=98 Arcade Fire on mergerecords.com]
* Unofficial fan-run artist pages (TODO)
* Links to artists' myspace/tagworld/imeem pages:
** [http://www.myspace.com/theshins The Shins on MySpace]
** [http://www.myspace.com/thetrashies The Trashies on MySpace]
** [http://tagworld.com/bandofhorses Band of Horses on TagWorld]
** [http://scanners.imeem.com/ Scanners' on Imeem]
* Other high-traffic, non-artist run sites (AMG, last.fm, VH1.com, eMusic):
** [http://www.last.fm/music/The+Shins The Shins last.fm page]
** [http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=11:1e821v0jzzca Beatles on AllMusic]
** [http://www.emusic.com/artist/10557/10557751.html Ornette Coleman on eMusic]
** [http://www.vh1.com/artists/az/black_sabbath/artist.jhtml Black Sabbath on VH1.com]

=== Record Label pages ===
Label sites (like many artist sites) tend to not be the best examples of minimal, semantic mark up. They are, nonetheless, important and prevalent enough to list.
* Major label homepages
** [http://www.atlanticrecords.com/ Atlantic Records]
** [http://www.interscope.com/ Interscope Records]
** [http://www.sonymusic.com/home.html Sony Records] Pretty much all of the Sony sub-labels (Epic, Sony Nashville, etc.) use the same template with differing content.
** [http://www.bmgclassics.com/index.jsp BMG Classics]
** [http://www.umrg.com/ Universal Motown]
* Independent record labels:
** [http://www.subpop.com Sub Pop Records]
** [http://www.matadorrecords.com Matador Records]
** [http://www.epitaph.com/ Epitaph Records]
** [http://www.mergerecords.com/ Merge Records]
** [http://www.barsuk.com/home Barsuk Records]
** [http://www.suicidesqueeze.net/index2.html Suicide Squeeze Records]

=== Release Sites ===
Pages and/or small sites devoted to a specific release by an artist. These generally include release descriptions, track listings and album art. They may have links to downloadable or streamable media as well. Another note: artist bios are, in some cases, release specific-- from a label perspective they are often re-written every time an active artist has a new major release.
* Release sites created by record labels:
** [http://www.subpop.com/bands/rogue_wave/descended/ Rogue Wave, Descended Like Vultures]
** [http://www.subpop.com/bands/kinski/alpine_static/kinski_alpine_static.html Kinski, Alpine Static]
** [http://www.subpop.com/bands/fruitbats/spelled_in_bones/ Fruit Bats, Spelled in Bones]
** [http://www.subpop.com/bands/mudhoney/under_a_billion_suns/ Mudhoney, Under A Billion Suns]
* Release pages on label sites:
** [http://www.subpop.com/scripts/main/discography.php?cat=true&display_type=discog_single&title=Cansei+De+Ser+Sexy Cansei de Ser Sexy release page on subpop.com]
** [http://www.epitaph.com/artists/album/470 Pick a Bigger Weapon release page on epitaph.com]

=== Music database sites ===
* TODO: Musicbrainz, AMG, Muse, etc.

=== Social sites ===
* TODO: Last.fm, Myspace, LiveJournal?

music-examples

2006-06-30T21:47:56Z

DeanEro: /* Introduction */ clarified distinction between performing artist and composer

= Music Examples =
An attempt to gather together examples of pages describing, linking to, or referring to music.

== The Problem ==
''What is the purpose of this exploration?''

== Participants ==
* [[User:RodBegbie | Rod Begbie]]
* [[User:DeanEro | Dean Hudson, Sub Pop Records]]

== Introduction ==

Examples of what people actually publish on the Web when discussing, linking to and referring to musical artists and their works. This is focused predominantly on the descriptions of artists and their releases. Track information is better covered in the more general [[media-info-examples]].

For the purposes of this discussion "artist" refers to the performing artist. That is, the individual or group that performed on a particular sound recording rather than the writer or composer of a song (in many cases, they're one in the same). This distinction has to do with the association between performers and particular sound recordings and the nuts and bolts of music copyright-- it's in no way an assertion about the definition of artistry.

Releases refer to collections sound recordings that are packaged together and made available together. Singles, EPs and albums would all be releases.

== Emphasis on Practical, Simple, and Minimal ==

Since all previous known attempts at this problem area have ended up quite complex and over-designed, this attempt will place simplicity and minimalism first and foremost.

Thus for now, this document is deliberately restricted to examples that are:
* ''Actual'' examples in practice on the Web '''with URLs''' to the originals (note, all *-examples pages should be like this, but previous attempts at documenting media info examples have mostly ignored this requirement, and thus it is necessary to be explicit).
* Representative of ''very common'' publishing behavior on the Web. This focus on common, representative examples is essential. If possible, include an estimate of the number of similar examples. E.g. ~10k.
* Simple and minimalist. As simple as possible. Go read [http://microformats.org/wiki/microformats#the_microformats_principles the microformats principles] right now before proceeding any further.

Any examples added which do not conform to these requirements will be deleted.

Any generic analysis will also be deleted. Analysis before examples is premature. Once there are sufficient media-info-examples, and hopefully a simple/clean listing of [[media-info-formats]], we'll hopefully start a [[media-info-brainstorming]] page to do aggregate analysis of the examples.

== Table of Contents ==

__TOC__

== Real World Examples ==

=== Commerce Sites ===
* TODO: Links to Amazon, buy.com, etc.

=== Music Journalism ===
* TODO: Links to NME, Rolling Stone, Paste, Q, Pitchfork
* TODO: Links to collaborative music review sites

=== Artist pages ===
Particularly, pages which provide information about performing artists.
* Official artist sites:
** [http://www.theshinsmusic.com/about.html The Shins Official Site] Bio page-- lifted from allmusic.com
** [http://www.bandofhorses.com Band of Horses Official Site]
* Artist pages on label sites:
** [http://www.subpop.com/scripts/main/bands_page.php?id=355 The Shins on subpop.com]
** [http://www.subpop.com/mock/sleater_kinney.html A pass at the mark-up of the future for subpop.com artist pages] (sorry, no stylesheet)
** [http://matadorrecords.com/cat_power/ Cat Power on matadorrecords.com]
** [http://www.epitaph.com/artists/artist/197/ Dangerdoom on epitaph.com]
** [http://www.mergerecords.com/band.php?band_id=98 Arcade Fire on mergerecords.com]
* Unofficial fan-run artist pages (TODO)
* Links to artists' myspace/tagworld/imeem pages:
** [http://www.myspace.com/theshins The Shins on MySpace]
** [http://www.myspace.com/thetrashies The Trashies on MySpace]
** [http://tagworld.com/bandofhorses Band of Horses on TagWorld]
** [http://scanners.imeem.com/ Scanners' on Imeem]
* Other high-traffic, non-artist run sites (AMG, last.fm, VH1.com, eMusic):
** [http://www.last.fm/music/The+Shins The Shins last.fm page]
** [http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=11:1e821v0jzzca Beatles on AllMusic]
** [http://www.emusic.com/artist/10557/10557751.html Ornette Coleman on eMusic]
** [http://www.vh1.com/artists/az/black_sabbath/artist.jhtml Black Sabbath on VH1.com]

=== Record Label pages ===

* TODO: Warners/Sony/BMG Homepages
* Independent record labels:
** [http://www.subpop.com Sub Pop Records]
** [http://www.matadorrecords.com Matador Records]
** [http://www.epitaph.com/ Epitaph Records]
** [http://www.mergerecords.com/ Merge Records]
** [http://www.barsuk.com/home Barsuk Records]
** [http://www.suicidesqueeze.net/index2.html Suicide Squeeze Records]

=== Release Sites ===
Pages and/or small sites devoted to a specific release by an artist. These generally include release descriptions, track listings and album art. They may have links to downloadable or streamable media as well. Another note: artist bios are, in some cases, release specific-- from a label perspective they are often re-written every time an active artist has a new major release.
* Release sites created by record labels:
** [http://www.subpop.com/bands/rogue_wave/descended/ Rogue Wave, Descended Like Vultures]
** [http://www.subpop.com/bands/kinski/alpine_static/kinski_alpine_static.html Kinski, Alpine Static]
** [http://www.subpop.com/bands/fruitbats/spelled_in_bones/ Fruit Bats, Spelled in Bones]
** [http://www.subpop.com/bands/mudhoney/under_a_billion_suns/ Mudhoney, Under A Billion Suns]
* Release pages on label sites:
** [http://www.subpop.com/scripts/main/discography.php?cat=true&display_type=discog_single&title=Cansei+De+Ser+Sexy Candsei de Ser Sexy release page on subpop.com]
** [http://www.epitaph.com/artists/album/470 Pick a Bigger Weapon release page on epitaph.com]

=== Music database sites ===
* TODO: Musicbrainz, AMG, Muse, etc.

=== Social sites ===
* TODO: Last.fm, Myspace, LiveJournal?

music-examples

2006-06-30T21:26:05Z

DeanEro: /* Artist pages */ clarification

= Music Examples =
An attempt to gather together examples of pages describing, linking to, or referring to music.

== The Problem ==
''What is the purpose of this exploration?''

== Participants ==
* [[User:RodBegbie | Rod Begbie]]
* [[User:DeanEro | Dean Hudson, Sub Pop Records]]

== Introduction ==

Examples of what people actually publish on the Web when discussing, linking to and referring to musical artists and their works. This is focused predominantly on the descriptions of artists and their releases. Track information is better covered in the more general [[media-info-examples]].

For the purposes of this discussion "artist" refers to the performing artist. That is, the individual or group that performed a particular sound recording rather than the composer or writer of the song (although, in many cases, they're one in the same). This has more to do with the association between performers and particular sound recordings and the nuts and bolts of music copyright than actual artistry.

Releases refer to collections sound recordings that are packaged together and made available together. Singles, EPs and albums would all be releases.

== Emphasis on Practical, Simple, and Minimal ==

Since all previous known attempts at this problem area have ended up quite complex and over-designed, this attempt will place simplicity and minimalism first and foremost.

Thus for now, this document is deliberately restricted to examples that are:
* ''Actual'' examples in practice on the Web '''with URLs''' to the originals (note, all *-examples pages should be like this, but previous attempts at documenting media info examples have mostly ignored this requirement, and thus it is necessary to be explicit).
* Representative of ''very common'' publishing behavior on the Web. This focus on common, representative examples is essential. If possible, include an estimate of the number of similar examples. E.g. ~10k.
* Simple and minimalist. As simple as possible. Go read [http://microformats.org/wiki/microformats#the_microformats_principles the microformats principles] right now before proceeding any further.

Any examples added which do not conform to these requirements will be deleted.

Any generic analysis will also be deleted. Analysis before examples is premature. Once there are sufficient media-info-examples, and hopefully a simple/clean listing of [[media-info-formats]], we'll hopefully start a [[media-info-brainstorming]] page to do aggregate analysis of the examples.

== Table of Contents ==

__TOC__

== Real World Examples ==

=== Commerce Sites ===
* TODO: Links to Amazon, buy.com, etc.

=== Music Journalism ===
* TODO: Links to NME, Rolling Stone, Paste, Q, Pitchfork
* TODO: Links to collaborative music review sites

=== Artist pages ===
Particularly, pages which provide information about performing artists.
* Official artist sites:
** [http://www.theshinsmusic.com/about.html The Shins Official Site] Bio page-- lifted from allmusic.com
** [http://www.bandofhorses.com Band of Horses Official Site]
* Artist pages on label sites:
** [http://www.subpop.com/scripts/main/bands_page.php?id=355 The Shins on subpop.com]
** [http://www.subpop.com/mock/sleater_kinney.html A pass at the mark-up of the future for subpop.com artist pages] (sorry, no stylesheet)
** [http://matadorrecords.com/cat_power/ Cat Power on matadorrecords.com]
** [http://www.epitaph.com/artists/artist/197/ Dangerdoom on epitaph.com]
** [http://www.mergerecords.com/band.php?band_id=98 Arcade Fire on mergerecords.com]
* Unofficial fan-run artist pages (TODO)
* Links to artists' myspace/tagworld/imeem pages:
** [http://www.myspace.com/theshins The Shins on MySpace]
** [http://www.myspace.com/thetrashies The Trashies on MySpace]
** [http://tagworld.com/bandofhorses Band of Horses on TagWorld]
** [http://scanners.imeem.com/ Scanners' on Imeem]
* Other high-traffic, non-artist run sites (AMG, last.fm, VH1.com, eMusic):
** [http://www.last.fm/music/The+Shins The Shins last.fm page]
** [http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=11:1e821v0jzzca Beatles on AllMusic]
** [http://www.emusic.com/artist/10557/10557751.html Ornette Coleman on eMusic]
** [http://www.vh1.com/artists/az/black_sabbath/artist.jhtml Black Sabbath on VH1.com]

=== Record Label pages ===

* TODO: Warners/Sony/BMG Homepages
* Independent record labels:
** [http://www.subpop.com Sub Pop Records]
** [http://www.matadorrecords.com Matador Records]
** [http://www.epitaph.com/ Epitaph Records]
** [http://www.mergerecords.com/ Merge Records]
** [http://www.barsuk.com/home Barsuk Records]
** [http://www.suicidesqueeze.net/index2.html Suicide Squeeze Records]

=== Release Sites ===
Pages and/or small sites devoted to a specific release by an artist. These generally include release descriptions, track listings and album art. They may have links to downloadable or streamable media as well. Another note: artist bios are, in some cases, release specific-- from a label perspective they are often re-written every time an active artist has a new major release.
* Release sites created by record labels:
** [http://www.subpop.com/bands/rogue_wave/descended/ Rogue Wave, Descended Like Vultures]
** [http://www.subpop.com/bands/kinski/alpine_static/kinski_alpine_static.html Kinski, Alpine Static]
** [http://www.subpop.com/bands/fruitbats/spelled_in_bones/ Fruit Bats, Spelled in Bones]
** [http://www.subpop.com/bands/mudhoney/under_a_billion_suns/ Mudhoney, Under A Billion Suns]
* Release pages on label sites:
** [http://www.subpop.com/scripts/main/discography.php?cat=true&display_type=discog_single&title=Cansei+De+Ser+Sexy Candsei de Ser Sexy release page on subpop.com]
** [http://www.epitaph.com/artists/album/470 Pick a Bigger Weapon release page on epitaph.com]

=== Music database sites ===
* TODO: Musicbrainz, AMG, Muse, etc.

=== Social sites ===
* TODO: Last.fm, Myspace, LiveJournal?

music-examples

2006-06-30T21:23:17Z

DeanEro: /* Introduction */ link fix

= Music Examples =
An attempt to gather together examples of pages describing, linking to, or referring to music.

== The Problem ==
''What is the purpose of this exploration?''

== Participants ==
* [[User:RodBegbie | Rod Begbie]]
* [[User:DeanEro | Dean Hudson, Sub Pop Records]]

== Introduction ==

Examples of what people actually publish on the Web when discussing, linking to and referring to musical artists and their works. This is focused predominantly on the descriptions of artists and their releases. Track information is better covered in the more general [[media-info-examples]].

For the purposes of this discussion "artist" refers to the performing artist. That is, the individual or group that performed a particular sound recording rather than the composer or writer of the song (although, in many cases, they're one in the same). This has more to do with the association between performers and particular sound recordings and the nuts and bolts of music copyright than actual artistry.

Releases refer to collections sound recordings that are packaged together and made available together. Singles, EPs and albums would all be releases.

== Emphasis on Practical, Simple, and Minimal ==

Since all previous known attempts at this problem area have ended up quite complex and over-designed, this attempt will place simplicity and minimalism first and foremost.

Thus for now, this document is deliberately restricted to examples that are:
* ''Actual'' examples in practice on the Web '''with URLs''' to the originals (note, all *-examples pages should be like this, but previous attempts at documenting media info examples have mostly ignored this requirement, and thus it is necessary to be explicit).
* Representative of ''very common'' publishing behavior on the Web. This focus on common, representative examples is essential. If possible, include an estimate of the number of similar examples. E.g. ~10k.
* Simple and minimalist. As simple as possible. Go read [http://microformats.org/wiki/microformats#the_microformats_principles the microformats principles] right now before proceeding any further.

Any examples added which do not conform to these requirements will be deleted.

Any generic analysis will also be deleted. Analysis before examples is premature. Once there are sufficient media-info-examples, and hopefully a simple/clean listing of [[media-info-formats]], we'll hopefully start a [[media-info-brainstorming]] page to do aggregate analysis of the examples.

== Table of Contents ==

__TOC__

== Real World Examples ==

=== Commerce Sites ===
* TODO: Links to Amazon, buy.com, etc.

=== Music Journalism ===
* TODO: Links to NME, Rolling Stone, Paste, Q, Pitchfork
* TODO: Links to collaborative music review sites

=== Artist pages ===
Particularly the actual pages which provide artist descriptions.
* Official artist sites:
** [http://www.theshinsmusic.com/about.html The Shins Official Site] Bio page-- lifted from allmusic.com
** [http://www.bandofhorses.com Band of Horses Official Site]
* Artist pages on label sites:
** [http://www.subpop.com/scripts/main/bands_page.php?id=355 The Shins on subpop.com]
** [http://www.subpop.com/mock/sleater_kinney.html A pass at the mark-up of the future for subpop.com artist pages] (sorry, no stylesheet)
** [http://matadorrecords.com/cat_power/ Cat Power on matadorrecords.com]
** [http://www.epitaph.com/artists/artist/197/ Dangerdoom on epitaph.com]
** [http://www.mergerecords.com/band.php?band_id=98 Arcade Fire on mergerecords.com]
* Unofficial fan-run artist pages (TODO)
* Links to artists' myspace/tagworld/imeem pages:
** [http://www.myspace.com/theshins The Shins on MySpace]
** [http://www.myspace.com/thetrashies The Trashies on MySpace]
** [http://tagworld.com/bandofhorses Band of Horses on TagWorld]
** [http://scanners.imeem.com/ Scanners' on Imeem]
* Other high-traffic, non-artist run sites (AMG, last.fm, VH1.com, eMusic):
** [http://www.last.fm/music/The+Shins The Shins last.fm page]
** [http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=11:1e821v0jzzca Beatles on AllMusic]
** [http://www.emusic.com/artist/10557/10557751.html Ornette Coleman on eMusic]
** [http://www.vh1.com/artists/az/black_sabbath/artist.jhtml Black Sabbath on VH1.com]

=== Record Label pages ===

* TODO: Warners/Sony/BMG Homepages
* Independent record labels:
** [http://www.subpop.com Sub Pop Records]
** [http://www.matadorrecords.com Matador Records]
** [http://www.epitaph.com/ Epitaph Records]
** [http://www.mergerecords.com/ Merge Records]
** [http://www.barsuk.com/home Barsuk Records]
** [http://www.suicidesqueeze.net/index2.html Suicide Squeeze Records]

=== Release Sites ===
Pages and/or small sites devoted to a specific release by an artist. These generally include release descriptions, track listings and album art. They may have links to downloadable or streamable media as well. Another note: artist bios are, in some cases, release specific-- from a label perspective they are often re-written every time an active artist has a new major release.
* Release sites created by record labels:
** [http://www.subpop.com/bands/rogue_wave/descended/ Rogue Wave, Descended Like Vultures]
** [http://www.subpop.com/bands/kinski/alpine_static/kinski_alpine_static.html Kinski, Alpine Static]
** [http://www.subpop.com/bands/fruitbats/spelled_in_bones/ Fruit Bats, Spelled in Bones]
** [http://www.subpop.com/bands/mudhoney/under_a_billion_suns/ Mudhoney, Under A Billion Suns]
* Release pages on label sites:
** [http://www.subpop.com/scripts/main/discography.php?cat=true&display_type=discog_single&title=Cansei+De+Ser+Sexy Candsei de Ser Sexy release page on subpop.com]
** [http://www.epitaph.com/artists/album/470 Pick a Bigger Weapon release page on epitaph.com]

=== Music database sites ===
* TODO: Musicbrainz, AMG, Muse, etc.

=== Social sites ===
* TODO: Last.fm, Myspace, LiveJournal?

music-examples

2006-06-30T21:22:03Z

DeanEro: /* Introduction */ clearer explanation of artists and releases

= Music Examples =
An attempt to gather together examples of pages describing, linking to, or referring to music.

== The Problem ==
''What is the purpose of this exploration?''

== Participants ==
* [[User:RodBegbie | Rod Begbie]]
* [[User:DeanEro | Dean Hudson, Sub Pop Records]]

== Introduction ==

Examples of what people actually publish on the Web when discussing, linking to and referring to musical artists and their works. This is focused predominantly on the descriptions of artists and their releases. Track information is better covered in the more general media-info-examples.

For the purposes of this discussion "artist" refers to the performing artist. That is, the individual or group that performed a particular sound recording rather than the composer or writer of the song (although, in many cases, they're one in the same). This has more to do with the association between performers and particular sound recordings and the nuts and bolts of music copyright than actual artistry.

Releases refer to collections sound recordings that are packaged together and made available together. Singles, EPs and albums would all be releases.

== Emphasis on Practical, Simple, and Minimal ==

Since all previous known attempts at this problem area have ended up quite complex and over-designed, this attempt will place simplicity and minimalism first and foremost.

Thus for now, this document is deliberately restricted to examples that are:
* ''Actual'' examples in practice on the Web '''with URLs''' to the originals (note, all *-examples pages should be like this, but previous attempts at documenting media info examples have mostly ignored this requirement, and thus it is necessary to be explicit).
* Representative of ''very common'' publishing behavior on the Web. This focus on common, representative examples is essential. If possible, include an estimate of the number of similar examples. E.g. ~10k.
* Simple and minimalist. As simple as possible. Go read [http://microformats.org/wiki/microformats#the_microformats_principles the microformats principles] right now before proceeding any further.

Any examples added which do not conform to these requirements will be deleted.

Any generic analysis will also be deleted. Analysis before examples is premature. Once there are sufficient media-info-examples, and hopefully a simple/clean listing of [[media-info-formats]], we'll hopefully start a [[media-info-brainstorming]] page to do aggregate analysis of the examples.

== Table of Contents ==

__TOC__

== Real World Examples ==

=== Commerce Sites ===
* TODO: Links to Amazon, buy.com, etc.

=== Music Journalism ===
* TODO: Links to NME, Rolling Stone, Paste, Q, Pitchfork
* TODO: Links to collaborative music review sites

=== Artist pages ===
Particularly the actual pages which provide artist descriptions.
* Official artist sites:
** [http://www.theshinsmusic.com/about.html The Shins Official Site] Bio page-- lifted from allmusic.com
** [http://www.bandofhorses.com Band of Horses Official Site]
* Artist pages on label sites:
** [http://www.subpop.com/scripts/main/bands_page.php?id=355 The Shins on subpop.com]
** [http://www.subpop.com/mock/sleater_kinney.html A pass at the mark-up of the future for subpop.com artist pages] (sorry, no stylesheet)
** [http://matadorrecords.com/cat_power/ Cat Power on matadorrecords.com]
** [http://www.epitaph.com/artists/artist/197/ Dangerdoom on epitaph.com]
** [http://www.mergerecords.com/band.php?band_id=98 Arcade Fire on mergerecords.com]
* Unofficial fan-run artist pages (TODO)
* Links to artists' myspace/tagworld/imeem pages:
** [http://www.myspace.com/theshins The Shins on MySpace]
** [http://www.myspace.com/thetrashies The Trashies on MySpace]
** [http://tagworld.com/bandofhorses Band of Horses on TagWorld]
** [http://scanners.imeem.com/ Scanners' on Imeem]
* Other high-traffic, non-artist run sites (AMG, last.fm, VH1.com, eMusic):
** [http://www.last.fm/music/The+Shins The Shins last.fm page]
** [http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=11:1e821v0jzzca Beatles on AllMusic]
** [http://www.emusic.com/artist/10557/10557751.html Ornette Coleman on eMusic]
** [http://www.vh1.com/artists/az/black_sabbath/artist.jhtml Black Sabbath on VH1.com]

=== Record Label pages ===

* TODO: Warners/Sony/BMG Homepages
* Independent record labels:
** [http://www.subpop.com Sub Pop Records]
** [http://www.matadorrecords.com Matador Records]
** [http://www.epitaph.com/ Epitaph Records]
** [http://www.mergerecords.com/ Merge Records]
** [http://www.barsuk.com/home Barsuk Records]
** [http://www.suicidesqueeze.net/index2.html Suicide Squeeze Records]

=== Release Sites ===
Pages and/or small sites devoted to a specific release by an artist. These generally include release descriptions, track listings and album art. They may have links to downloadable or streamable media as well. Another note: artist bios are, in some cases, release specific-- from a label perspective they are often re-written every time an active artist has a new major release.
* Release sites created by record labels:
** [http://www.subpop.com/bands/rogue_wave/descended/ Rogue Wave, Descended Like Vultures]
** [http://www.subpop.com/bands/kinski/alpine_static/kinski_alpine_static.html Kinski, Alpine Static]
** [http://www.subpop.com/bands/fruitbats/spelled_in_bones/ Fruit Bats, Spelled in Bones]
** [http://www.subpop.com/bands/mudhoney/under_a_billion_suns/ Mudhoney, Under A Billion Suns]
* Release pages on label sites:
** [http://www.subpop.com/scripts/main/discography.php?cat=true&display_type=discog_single&title=Cansei+De+Ser+Sexy Candsei de Ser Sexy release page on subpop.com]
** [http://www.epitaph.com/artists/album/470 Pick a Bigger Weapon release page on epitaph.com]

=== Music database sites ===
* TODO: Musicbrainz, AMG, Muse, etc.

=== Social sites ===
* TODO: Last.fm, Myspace, LiveJournal?

music-examples

2006-06-30T20:47:06Z

DeanEro: /* Release Sites */ more explanation and examples of release pages

= Music Examples =
An attempt to gather together examples of pages describing, linking to, or referring to music.

== The Problem ==
''What is the purpose of this exploration?''

== Participants ==
* [[User:RodBegbie | Rod Begbie]]
* [[User:DeanEro | Dean Hudson, Sub Pop Records]]

== Introduction ==

Examples of what people actually publish on the Web when discussing, linking to and referring to musical artists and their works. This is focused predominantly on the descriptions of artists and their releases. Track information is more aptly covered in the more general [[media-info-examples]].

== Emphasis on Practical, Simple, and Minimal ==

Since all previous known attempts at this problem area have ended up quite complex and over-designed, this attempt will place simplicity and minimalism first and foremost.

Thus for now, this document is deliberately restricted to examples that are:
* ''Actual'' examples in practice on the Web '''with URLs''' to the originals (note, all *-examples pages should be like this, but previous attempts at documenting media info examples have mostly ignored this requirement, and thus it is necessary to be explicit).
* Representative of ''very common'' publishing behavior on the Web. This focus on common, representative examples is essential. If possible, include an estimate of the number of similar examples. E.g. ~10k.
* Simple and minimalist. As simple as possible. Go read [http://microformats.org/wiki/microformats#the_microformats_principles the microformats principles] right now before proceeding any further.

Any examples added which do not conform to these requirements will be deleted.

Any generic analysis will also be deleted. Analysis before examples is premature. Once there are sufficient media-info-examples, and hopefully a simple/clean listing of [[media-info-formats]], we'll hopefully start a [[media-info-brainstorming]] page to do aggregate analysis of the examples.

== Table of Contents ==

__TOC__

== Real World Examples ==

=== Commerce Sites ===
* TODO: Links to Amazon, buy.com, etc.

=== Music Journalism ===
* TODO: Links to NME, Rolling Stone, Paste, Q, Pitchfork
* TODO: Links to collaborative music review sites

=== Artist pages ===
Particularly the actual pages which provide artist descriptions.
* Official artist sites:
** [http://www.theshinsmusic.com/about.html The Shins Official Site] Bio page-- lifted from allmusic.com
** [http://www.bandofhorses.com Band of Horses Official Site]
* Artist pages on label sites:
** [http://www.subpop.com/scripts/main/bands_page.php?id=355 The Shins on subpop.com]
** [http://www.subpop.com/mock/sleater_kinney.html A pass at the mark-up of the future for subpop.com artist pages] (sorry, no stylesheet)
** [http://matadorrecords.com/cat_power/ Cat Power on matadorrecords.com]
** [http://www.epitaph.com/artists/artist/197/ Dangerdoom on epitaph.com]
** [http://www.mergerecords.com/band.php?band_id=98 Arcade Fire on mergerecords.com]
* Unofficial fan-run artist pages (TODO)
* Links to artists' myspace/tagworld/imeem pages:
** [http://www.myspace.com/theshins The Shins on MySpace]
** [http://www.myspace.com/thetrashies The Trashies on MySpace]
** [http://tagworld.com/bandofhorses Band of Horses on TagWorld]
** [http://scanners.imeem.com/ Scanners' on Imeem]
* Other high-traffic, non-artist run sites (AMG, last.fm, VH1.com, eMusic):
** [http://www.last.fm/music/The+Shins The Shins last.fm page]
** [http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=11:1e821v0jzzca Beatles on AllMusic]
** [http://www.emusic.com/artist/10557/10557751.html Ornette Coleman on eMusic]
** [http://www.vh1.com/artists/az/black_sabbath/artist.jhtml Black Sabbath on VH1.com]

=== Record Label pages ===

* TODO: Warners/Sony/BMG Homepages
* Independent record labels:
** [http://www.subpop.com Sub Pop Records]
** [http://www.matadorrecords.com Matador Records]
** [http://www.epitaph.com/ Epitaph Records]
** [http://www.mergerecords.com/ Merge Records]
** [http://www.barsuk.com/home Barsuk Records]
** [http://www.suicidesqueeze.net/index2.html Suicide Squeeze Records]

=== Release Sites ===
Pages and/or small sites devoted to a specific release by an artist. These generally include release descriptions, track listings and album art. They may have links to downloadable or streamable media as well. Another note: artist bios are, in some cases, release specific-- from a label perspective they are often re-written every time an active artist has a new major release.
* Release sites created by record labels:
** [http://www.subpop.com/bands/rogue_wave/descended/ Rogue Wave, Descended Like Vultures]
** [http://www.subpop.com/bands/kinski/alpine_static/kinski_alpine_static.html Kinski, Alpine Static]
** [http://www.subpop.com/bands/fruitbats/spelled_in_bones/ Fruit Bats, Spelled in Bones]
** [http://www.subpop.com/bands/mudhoney/under_a_billion_suns/ Mudhoney, Under A Billion Suns]
* Release pages on label sites:
** [http://www.subpop.com/scripts/main/discography.php?cat=true&display_type=discog_single&title=Cansei+De+Ser+Sexy Candsei de Ser Sexy release page on subpop.com]
** [http://www.epitaph.com/artists/album/470 Pick a Bigger Weapon release page on epitaph.com]

=== Music database sites ===
* TODO: Musicbrainz, AMG, Muse, etc.

=== Social sites ===
* TODO: Last.fm, Myspace, LiveJournal?

music-examples

2006-06-30T18:56:15Z

DeanEro: /* Record Label pages */ a few more indies

= Music Examples =
An attempt to gather together examples of pages describing, linking to, or referring to music.

== The Problem ==
''What is the purpose of this exploration?''

== Participants ==
* [[User:RodBegbie | Rod Begbie]]
* [[User:DeanEro | Dean Hudson, Sub Pop Records]]

== Introduction ==

Examples of what people actually publish on the Web when discussing, linking to and referring to musical artists and their works. This is focused predominantly on the descriptions of artists and their releases. Track information is more aptly covered in the more general [[media-info-examples]].

== Emphasis on Practical, Simple, and Minimal ==

Since all previous known attempts at this problem area have ended up quite complex and over-designed, this attempt will place simplicity and minimalism first and foremost.

Thus for now, this document is deliberately restricted to examples that are:
* ''Actual'' examples in practice on the Web '''with URLs''' to the originals (note, all *-examples pages should be like this, but previous attempts at documenting media info examples have mostly ignored this requirement, and thus it is necessary to be explicit).
* Representative of ''very common'' publishing behavior on the Web. This focus on common, representative examples is essential. If possible, include an estimate of the number of similar examples. E.g. ~10k.
* Simple and minimalist. As simple as possible. Go read [http://microformats.org/wiki/microformats#the_microformats_principles the microformats principles] right now before proceeding any further.

Any examples added which do not conform to these requirements will be deleted.

Any generic analysis will also be deleted. Analysis before examples is premature. Once there are sufficient media-info-examples, and hopefully a simple/clean listing of [[media-info-formats]], we'll hopefully start a [[media-info-brainstorming]] page to do aggregate analysis of the examples.

== Table of Contents ==

__TOC__

== Real World Examples ==

=== Commerce Sites ===
* TODO: Links to Amazon, buy.com, etc.

=== Music Journalism ===
* TODO: Links to NME, Rolling Stone, Paste, Q, Pitchfork
* TODO: Links to collaborative music review sites

=== Artist pages ===
Particularly the actual pages which provide artist descriptions.
* Official artist sites:
** [http://www.theshinsmusic.com/about.html The Shins Official Site] Bio page-- lifted from allmusic.com
** [http://www.bandofhorses.com Band of Horses Official Site]
* Artist pages on label sites:
** [http://www.subpop.com/scripts/main/bands_page.php?id=355 The Shins on subpop.com]
** [http://www.subpop.com/mock/sleater_kinney.html A pass at the mark-up of the future for subpop.com artist pages] (sorry, no stylesheet)
** [http://matadorrecords.com/cat_power/ Cat Power on matadorrecords.com]
** [http://www.epitaph.com/artists/artist/197/ Dangerdoom on epitaph.com]
** [http://www.mergerecords.com/band.php?band_id=98 Arcade Fire on mergerecords.com]
* Unofficial fan-run artist pages (TODO)
* Links to artists' myspace/tagworld/imeem pages:
** [http://www.myspace.com/theshins The Shins on MySpace]
** [http://www.myspace.com/thetrashies The Trashies on MySpace]
** [http://tagworld.com/bandofhorses Band of Horses on TagWorld]
** [http://scanners.imeem.com/ Scanners' on Imeem]
* Other high-traffic, non-artist run sites (AMG, last.fm, VH1.com, eMusic):
** [http://www.last.fm/music/The+Shins The Shins last.fm page]
** [http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=11:1e821v0jzzca Beatles on AllMusic]
** [http://www.emusic.com/artist/10557/10557751.html Ornette Coleman on eMusic]
** [http://www.vh1.com/artists/az/black_sabbath/artist.jhtml Black Sabbath on VH1.com]

=== Record Label pages ===

* TODO: Warners/Sony/BMG Homepages
* Independent record labels:
** [http://www.subpop.com Sub Pop Records]
** [http://www.matadorrecords.com Matador Records]
** [http://www.epitaph.com/ Epitaph Records]
** [http://www.mergerecords.com/ Merge Records]
** [http://www.barsuk.com/home Barsuk Records]
** [http://www.suicidesqueeze.net/index2.html Suicide Squeeze Records]

=== Release Sites ===
* [http://www.subpop.com/bands/rogue_wave/descended/ Rogue Wave, Descended Like Vultures]
* [http://www.subpop.com/bands/kinski/alpine_static/kinski_alpine_static.html Kinski, Alpine Static]
* [http://www.subpop.com/bands/fruitbats/spelled_in_bones/ Fruit Bats, Spelled in Bones]
* [http://www.subpop.com/bands/mudhoney/under_a_billion_suns/ Mudhoney, Under A Billion Suns]
* [http://www.catpowerthegreatest.com/ Cat Power, The Greatest]

=== Music database sites ===
* TODO: Musicbrainz, AMG, Muse, etc.

=== Social sites ===
* TODO: Last.fm, Myspace, LiveJournal?

music-examples

2006-06-30T18:48:24Z

DeanEro: /* Artist pages */ added and cleaned up examples

= Music Examples =
An attempt to gather together examples of pages describing, linking to, or referring to music.

== The Problem ==
''What is the purpose of this exploration?''

== Participants ==
* [[User:RodBegbie | Rod Begbie]]
* [[User:DeanEro | Dean Hudson, Sub Pop Records]]

== Introduction ==

Examples of what people actually publish on the Web when discussing, linking to and referring to musical artists and their works. This is focused predominantly on the descriptions of artists and their releases. Track information is more aptly covered in the more general [[media-info-examples]].

== Emphasis on Practical, Simple, and Minimal ==

Since all previous known attempts at this problem area have ended up quite complex and over-designed, this attempt will place simplicity and minimalism first and foremost.

Thus for now, this document is deliberately restricted to examples that are:
* ''Actual'' examples in practice on the Web '''with URLs''' to the originals (note, all *-examples pages should be like this, but previous attempts at documenting media info examples have mostly ignored this requirement, and thus it is necessary to be explicit).
* Representative of ''very common'' publishing behavior on the Web. This focus on common, representative examples is essential. If possible, include an estimate of the number of similar examples. E.g. ~10k.
* Simple and minimalist. As simple as possible. Go read [http://microformats.org/wiki/microformats#the_microformats_principles the microformats principles] right now before proceeding any further.

Any examples added which do not conform to these requirements will be deleted.

Any generic analysis will also be deleted. Analysis before examples is premature. Once there are sufficient media-info-examples, and hopefully a simple/clean listing of [[media-info-formats]], we'll hopefully start a [[media-info-brainstorming]] page to do aggregate analysis of the examples.

== Table of Contents ==

__TOC__

== Real World Examples ==

=== Commerce Sites ===
* TODO: Links to Amazon, buy.com, etc.

=== Music Journalism ===
* TODO: Links to NME, Rolling Stone, Paste, Q, Pitchfork
* TODO: Links to collaborative music review sites

=== Artist pages ===
Particularly the actual pages which provide artist descriptions.
* Official artist sites:
** [http://www.theshinsmusic.com/about.html The Shins Official Site] Bio page-- lifted from allmusic.com
** [http://www.bandofhorses.com Band of Horses Official Site]
* Artist pages on label sites:
** [http://www.subpop.com/scripts/main/bands_page.php?id=355 The Shins on subpop.com]
** [http://www.subpop.com/mock/sleater_kinney.html A pass at the mark-up of the future for subpop.com artist pages] (sorry, no stylesheet)
** [http://matadorrecords.com/cat_power/ Cat Power on matadorrecords.com]
** [http://www.epitaph.com/artists/artist/197/ Dangerdoom on epitaph.com]
** [http://www.mergerecords.com/band.php?band_id=98 Arcade Fire on mergerecords.com]
* Unofficial fan-run artist pages (TODO)
* Links to artists' myspace/tagworld/imeem pages:
** [http://www.myspace.com/theshins The Shins on MySpace]
** [http://www.myspace.com/thetrashies The Trashies on MySpace]
** [http://tagworld.com/bandofhorses Band of Horses on TagWorld]
** [http://scanners.imeem.com/ Scanners' on Imeem]
* Other high-traffic, non-artist run sites (AMG, last.fm, VH1.com, eMusic):
** [http://www.last.fm/music/The+Shins The Shins last.fm page]
** [http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=11:1e821v0jzzca Beatles on AllMusic]
** [http://www.emusic.com/artist/10557/10557751.html Ornette Coleman on eMusic]
** [http://www.vh1.com/artists/az/black_sabbath/artist.jhtml Black Sabbath on VH1.com]

=== Record Label pages ===
* TODO: Warners/Sony/BMG Homepages
* TODO: Indie label homepages
* [http://www.subpop.com Sub Pop Records]
* [http://www.matadorrecords.com Matador Records]
* [http://www.epitaph.com/ Epitaph Records]
* [http://www.mergerecords.com/ Merge Records]

=== Release Sites ===
* [http://www.subpop.com/bands/rogue_wave/descended/ Rogue Wave, Descended Like Vultures]
* [http://www.subpop.com/bands/kinski/alpine_static/kinski_alpine_static.html Kinski, Alpine Static]
* [http://www.subpop.com/bands/fruitbats/spelled_in_bones/ Fruit Bats, Spelled in Bones]
* [http://www.subpop.com/bands/mudhoney/under_a_billion_suns/ Mudhoney, Under A Billion Suns]
* [http://www.catpowerthegreatest.com/ Cat Power, The Greatest]

=== Music database sites ===
* TODO: Musicbrainz, AMG, Muse, etc.

=== Social sites ===
* TODO: Last.fm, Myspace, LiveJournal?

music-examples

2006-06-30T17:35:23Z

DeanEro: /* Introduction */ disambiguate from the direction of media-info-- focus on artist and release descriptions.

media-info-examples

2006-06-30T16:28:06Z

DeanEro: /* Music */ added Apple's iTunes DTD extending RSS 2 for podcasting.

= Media Info Examples =

== Contributors ==

* [http://tantek.com/log/ Tantek Çelik]
* [http://joshkinberg.com/blog/ Joshua Kinberg]
* [http://napsterization.org/stories/ Mary Hodder]
* [http://onlisareinsradar.com/ Lisa Rein]
* [[User:ChrisMessina | ChrisMessina]]
* [[User:RodBegbie | RodBegbie]]

== Introduction ==

Examples of what people actually publish on the Web when discussing, linking to, referring to media. This is focused predominantly on time based media such as audio and video, but may consider aspects of static media as well such as still images.

== Emphasis on Practical, Simple, and Minimal ==

Since all previous known attempts at this problem area have ended up quite complex and over-designed, this attempt will place simplicity and minimalism first and foremost.

Thus for now, this document is deliberately restricted to examples that are:
* ''Actual'' examples in practice on the Web '''with URLs''' to the originals (note, all *-examples pages should be like this, but previous attempts at documenting media info examples have mostly ignored this requirement, and thus it is necessary to be explicit).
* Representative of ''very common'' publishing behavior on the Web. This focus on common, representative examples is essential. If possible, include an estimate of the number of similar examples. E.g. ~10k.
* Simple and minimalist. As simple as possible. Go read [http://microformats.org/wiki/microformats#the_microformats_principles the microformats principles] right now before proceeding any further.

Any examples added which do not conform to these requirements will be deleted.

Any generic analysis will also be deleted. Analysis before examples is premature. Once there are sufficient media-info-examples, and hopefully a simple/clean listing of [[media-info-formats]], we'll hopefully start a [[media-info-brainstorming]] page to do aggregate analysis of the examples.

== Table of Contents ==

__TOC__

== Real World Examples ==

=== Overall Notes About Examples ===
These examples are organized into a short list of top level media categories, in the hopes that it will be easier to determine if there are media specific publishing behaviors, in addition to common behaviors across multiple types of media. Some may be subcategorized and distinguished by whether it was published by an individual publisher or a service:
* Audio (Speech, Music)
* Video
* Photos

The numbers after some of the examples' descriptions are based on numbers found pulling in media records at Dabble. Others may have higher numbers and would be encouraged to restate them if that's true.

=== Audio ===
==== Speech ====
Publication of audio speeches on blogs is often called "podcasting". In essence though, it is simply audio speech publishing. Quotes of audio files are beginning to appear, and publishers are putting up files with links to other audio files they've quoted from. Most audio appears to often have the same base elements as video and photos, with the exception of quotes.

===== Individual Publishing of Speech =====

* [http://www.microformats.org/blog/2005/09/30/web-essentials-audio/ Microformats: Web Essentials Audio]
** Appears to be composed of:
*** title/summary of the recording
*** clickable hyperlink to the recording (MP3)
** Contextual:
*** (primary) speaker is indicated in nearby text

* [http://www.thechrispirilloshow.com/help/20060119_chuck_cummins_on_windows_vista_interface_design.phtml Chris Pirillo podcast]
** This example has a Title, Html URL, media URL(s), description or summary, categories/tags underneath what is viewable, and date. +10k

* [http://yukelzon.blogspot.com/2006/01/podcasts.html Reflog's Random Thoughts podcast]
** This example has a Title, Html URL, description or summary, creator, tags and publish time and date. +10k records.

* [http://www.evilgeniuschronicles.org/wordpress/2006/01/12/egc-clambake-for-january-12-2006/ Evil Genius Chronicles podcast]
** This example has a Title, Html URL, description or summary, quotes URLs and descriptions, licence, creator, tags and publish time and date. +10k records.

* [http://www(dot)bizbyjake.com/2006/01/how-are-you-doing.html media published from a blog, Jake Steinfeld's Audio Blog] NOTE: this record had trouble because mediawiki blocks any DOTbiz domains and so while this domain coincidentally has a DOTbizbyjake.com name that is not a TLD, it was still blocked in the loading of the page with this example. So please adjust the URL manually and then visit the site.
** This example has a Title, Html URL, media URL, creator and publish time and date. +10k records.

==== Music ====
* [http://www.somesongs.com/ somesongs]
** Has song title (linked to more info), artist (linked to more info), play link (to mp3), and rating

* [http://www.bradsucks.net/music/ Brad Sucks » music]
** Has album title, song title, separate link to more info, inline flash player, and play link (to mp3)

* [http://www.scottandrew.com/music/ Scott Andrew - lo-fi acoustic pop superhero! > music >]
** Has album title, song title, album artwork, streaming link (to m3u), and play link (to mp3)

* [http://magnatune.com/genres/rock/ Magnatune]
** Has artist (linked to more info), artist description, album title (linked to more info), lofi streaming link (to m3u), hifi streaming link (to m3u), link to more info, link to license info, link to purchase info.

* [http://www.songfight.org/ SONG FIGHT!]
** Has theme, artist/play link (to mp3).

* [http://www.yes.com/ Yes.com]
** Music played in last hour ([http://www.yes.com/lookup.php?s=WERS example])
*** Flash page with track play time, artist, title, cover art. Affiliate linked to iTunes music store.
** Top 100 Chart ([http://www.yes.com/top100.php?s=WXKS example])
*** HTML page with chart position, last week's chart position, artist, title (affiliate link to iTunes music store)

* [http://www.hearingdouble.co.uk/dumb/index2.html Portishead Remixed]
** Whole page is for one album (a mash-up remix of a Portishead album). Has Album Track Number and Title (linked to mp3) and Remixer's name, plus cover art. Also a link to the BitTorrent download of the whole album.

* MySpace (examples: [http://myspace.com/theradioknives] [http://www.myspace.com/singsinguk] [http://www.myspace.com/arcticmonkeys])
** Artist pages containing embedded flash players. Song title starts song playing on embedded player. Download link optionally links to mp3.
** Link to artist's homepage, band members, influences, biography.

* [http://musicbrainz.org MusicBrainz.org]
** MusicBrainz provides a catalog of music metadata such as the [http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/ArtistName artist name], the [http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/ReleaseTitle release title], and the list of [http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/Track tracks] that appear on a release.
** Since 2005, users have the option to further relate each of these entities using a detailed set of [http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/AdvancedRelationships relationships] (i.e. who played which instrument on a release/track).
** Examples: [http://musicbrainz.org/browseartists.html browse] and [http://musicbrainz.org/search.html search] the catalog

* [http://reactor-core.org/ogg-tagging.html Vorbis Comment Recommendations]
** Comment fields development by the Ogg/Vorbis community to consistently describe audio files.

* [http://www.apple.com/itunes/podcasts/techspecs.html iTunes RSS extensions]
** The DTD used to add richer data to media available in podcasts via the iTunes Music Store.

=== Video ===
Publication of video on blogs often goes by "videoblogging", "vlogging", "VODcasting", or "video podcasting". The typical process involves publishing a direct link to the video file within the blog entry. The blog entry can, but does not have to, include an embedded video player. Many videos include a thumbnail jpg which is clickable to the media object and player. Some video includes links to those other source videos, photos and audio that have been quoted. Most videos have the same base elements as photos and audio, with the exception of quotes.

==== Individual publishing of video ====

* [http://FreeVlog.org FreeVlog]: the most popular tutorial on the web describing the videoblogging process by combining free tools and services (Blogger, OurMedia/Internet Archive, FeedBurner).
** According to this process, a videoblog entry contains:
*** Direct link to the video file
*** Clickable thumbnail image/screen capture of the video
*** Contextual information about the video (title, description, etc) is usually contained in the surrounding blog entry

* [http://joshkinberg.com/popupmaker Video Pop Up Maker]
** This example based on the process taught at [http://FreeVlog.org FreeVlog] generates code to create a dynamic pop up window with embedded video player. The reasons for this are enumerated [http://www.unmediated.org/archives/2005/10/easily_create_p.php here]

* [http://ryanedit.blogspot.com/2006/01/light-water-music-2.html Ryanne's Video Blog]
** This example has a Title, Html URL, media URL, thumbnail url, description or summary, creator, and publish time. +50k

* [http://www.prototypen.com/blog/vjblog/archives/001244.html Artificial Eye: fALks world news view 05|07|11 video post]
** This example has a Title, Html URL, media URL, thumbnail url, description or summary, creator, quotes URLs and description, and publish time. +10k (quotes +5k)

* [http://www.itsjerrytime.com/ It's JerryTime! - episodic video content]
** This example has a Title, Html URL, media URL, thumbnail url and creator. +10k records.

* [http://www.bottomunion.com/blog/ Bottom Union combined video + text blog]
** This example has a Title, Html URL, media URL, thumbnail URL, description or summary, creator, tags and publish time and date. +5k blogs

* [http://kitchenarts.blogspot.com/ KitchenArts instructional/marketing video blog]
** This example has a Title, Html URL, media URL, thumbnail URL, description or summary, creator, and publish time and date. +5k blogs

* [http://weblog.infoworld.com/udell/2005/12/06.html#a1348 Jon Udell's Weblog: Greasemonkeying Google Videomedia - blog post with quoting of video via greasemonkey plugin]. This example *may* be better suited to a study from the perspective of a citation.
** This example has a Title, Html URL, media URL, description or summary, creator, quote URLs and description, license and publish time. >100 records but is climbing rapidly.

* [http://rocketboom.com/vlog/ Rocketboom daily with amanda congdon - daily video posting in a blog-like format, with quoting of video, audio photos]
** This example has a Title, Html URL, media URL, description or summary, creator, quote URLs and description, license and publish time. This example also "auto-plays", that is, starts playing the video in the normal browser/HTML view upon loading of the page. +20k

==== Service publishing of video ====

* [http://blip.tv/ blip.tv - video blogging, podcasting and sharing service]
** This example has a Title, Html URL, media URL, thumbnail URL, description or summary, license, creator, tags and upload time. +1m across all hosters. +10k records.

* [http://youtube.com/ YouTube - Broadcast Yourself - video hosting and sharing service]
** This example has a Title, Html URL, thumbnail URL, description or summary, license, creator, tags and upload time. +1m across all hosters. +15k records.

* [http://mefeedia.com/ Mefeedia] - Mefeedia is the best place to find free videoblogs or video podcasts.
** This example has a Title, Html URL, thumbnail URL, thumbnail title, media type overlay icon, creator.

* [http://vimeo.com/ Vimeo] - The Flickr of Video
** This example has a Title, thumbnail (class=moduleClipThumb), thumbnail URL, Html URL, creator.

* [http://DailyMotion.com/ DailyMotion] - Watch, publish, share
** This example has a thumbnail (class=category_minilist_item_video_preview_image), with an Html URL, thumbnail URL, certain info (class=category_minilist_infos), title (class=category_minilist_item_title), href to country tag (with image icon with class=category_minilist_item_flag, image title set to country name).

=== Photos ===
* A few photos online have region annotation and quoting. But as tools are developed that are usable for mass publishers, this will likely increase.
* Many videos have thumbnails that are jpgs.
* Many videos use pictures and therefore the pictures themselves are quotes from the video.
* Most photos have the same elements as videos and audio, with the exception of quotes.

==== Individual Publishing of Photos ====
* [http://blog.bouckenooghe.com/2005/09/01/em6-a-est-fache-avec-le-centimetre/ Blog A Brac » E=m6 a est fâché avec le centimètre - photo with annotated screen-caps]
** This example has a Title, Html URL, media URL, description or summary, creator, quotes and descriptions, tags/categories, and publish date and time. +200 across all individually blogged photos.
* [http://scribbling.net/projects/fotonotesrolloverviewer/fotonotesplugin.php?p=helicopterovernyc.jpg Scribbling.net implementation of Fotonotes Plugin demonstrating the fotonotes annotation tool for photos]
** This example has media url, quotes and descriptions, creator. +200 across all individually blogged photos.

* For more work along the lines of 2d annotations, please see (and add to) [[photo-note-examples]].

==== Service publishing of photos ====

* [http://www.flickr.com/photos/500hats/50282408/ Flickr - Photo Sharing instance of a photo.]
** This example has a Title, Html URL, media URL, description or summary, quotes URLs and descriptions, licence, tags, upload time, playlist (set), license, creator, and other capture data. +millions across all hosters. +millions of records.

* [http://www.webshots.com/search?query=san+francisco&new=1&source=search_results_top Webshots - Search results, gallery view.]
** This example has a Title, Html URL, creator, licence, Premium/Standard access.

* [http://www.webshots.com/g/32/579-sh/25695.html Webshots - Single photo view.]
** This example has a Title, Html URL, creator, licence, link to creator's other photos. Three alternate download sizes, link to buy a print. Link to add as favorite. Link to next, previous photos in collection. Photo belongs to generic category (no tags). Links to related photo searches.

== Notes on Existing Practices ==

Mary Hodder:
* We are finding as we look at thousands of user generated media records, that all have titles, creator, at least a default licensing, most have tags whose functionality is made available through the hosting service (the richer the media, the more likely tagging goes toward 100%), Html and media URLs, thumbnail URLs, publishing date, and about 25% have quoting information of some sort (quotes of video or audio, and region quotes of photos).
* Tags apparently appear at the upload point on 61% of photos in Flickr, and within a short period, 80+% have tags. 12% of users in Flickr apparently tag photos other than their own.

== Next Steps ==
# Add more real-world, simple, minimal examples.
# Research and organize existing/previous [[media-info-formats]], with a focus on formats for publishing '''common''', '''user-visible''' media information.
# Start [[media-info-brainstorming]] based on examples.

== See Also ==
* [[media-metadata-examples]] - previous attempt to catalog and organize top down metadata systems generated by engineers and committees, as examples of elements, and includes formats which should be in a separate page. Useful as a source of research but this microformat needs to embrace the bottomup ways users are publishing photos, video and audio online.

media-info-examples

2006-06-30T16:23:49Z

DeanEro: /* Music */ added Vorbis comment recommendation as an example

= Media Info Examples =

== Contributors ==

* [http://tantek.com/log/ Tantek Çelik]
* [http://joshkinberg.com/blog/ Joshua Kinberg]
* [http://napsterization.org/stories/ Mary Hodder]
* [http://onlisareinsradar.com/ Lisa Rein]
* [[User:ChrisMessina | ChrisMessina]]
* [[User:RodBegbie | RodBegbie]]

== Introduction ==

Examples of what people actually publish on the Web when discussing, linking to, referring to media. This is focused predominantly on time based media such as audio and video, but may consider aspects of static media as well such as still images.

== Emphasis on Practical, Simple, and Minimal ==

Since all previous known attempts at this problem area have ended up quite complex and over-designed, this attempt will place simplicity and minimalism first and foremost.

Thus for now, this document is deliberately restricted to examples that are:
* ''Actual'' examples in practice on the Web '''with URLs''' to the originals (note, all *-examples pages should be like this, but previous attempts at documenting media info examples have mostly ignored this requirement, and thus it is necessary to be explicit).
* Representative of ''very common'' publishing behavior on the Web. This focus on common, representative examples is essential. If possible, include an estimate of the number of similar examples. E.g. ~10k.
* Simple and minimalist. As simple as possible. Go read [http://microformats.org/wiki/microformats#the_microformats_principles the microformats principles] right now before proceeding any further.

Any examples added which do not conform to these requirements will be deleted.

Any generic analysis will also be deleted. Analysis before examples is premature. Once there are sufficient media-info-examples, and hopefully a simple/clean listing of [[media-info-formats]], we'll hopefully start a [[media-info-brainstorming]] page to do aggregate analysis of the examples.

== Table of Contents ==

__TOC__

== Real World Examples ==

=== Overall Notes About Examples ===
These examples are organized into a short list of top level media categories, in the hopes that it will be easier to determine if there are media specific publishing behaviors, in addition to common behaviors across multiple types of media. Some may be subcategorized and distinguished by whether it was published by an individual publisher or a service:
* Audio (Speech, Music)
* Video
* Photos

The numbers after some of the examples' descriptions are based on numbers found pulling in media records at Dabble. Others may have higher numbers and would be encouraged to restate them if that's true.

=== Audio ===
==== Speech ====
Publication of audio speeches on blogs is often called "podcasting". In essence though, it is simply audio speech publishing. Quotes of audio files are beginning to appear, and publishers are putting up files with links to other audio files they've quoted from. Most audio appears to often have the same base elements as video and photos, with the exception of quotes.

===== Individual Publishing of Speech =====

* [http://www.microformats.org/blog/2005/09/30/web-essentials-audio/ Microformats: Web Essentials Audio]
** Appears to be composed of:
*** title/summary of the recording
*** clickable hyperlink to the recording (MP3)
** Contextual:
*** (primary) speaker is indicated in nearby text

* [http://www.thechrispirilloshow.com/help/20060119_chuck_cummins_on_windows_vista_interface_design.phtml Chris Pirillo podcast]
** This example has a Title, Html URL, media URL(s), description or summary, categories/tags underneath what is viewable, and date. +10k

* [http://yukelzon.blogspot.com/2006/01/podcasts.html Reflog's Random Thoughts podcast]
** This example has a Title, Html URL, description or summary, creator, tags and publish time and date. +10k records.

* [http://www.evilgeniuschronicles.org/wordpress/2006/01/12/egc-clambake-for-january-12-2006/ Evil Genius Chronicles podcast]
** This example has a Title, Html URL, description or summary, quotes URLs and descriptions, licence, creator, tags and publish time and date. +10k records.

* [http://www(dot)bizbyjake.com/2006/01/how-are-you-doing.html media published from a blog, Jake Steinfeld's Audio Blog] NOTE: this record had trouble because mediawiki blocks any DOTbiz domains and so while this domain coincidentally has a DOTbizbyjake.com name that is not a TLD, it was still blocked in the loading of the page with this example. So please adjust the URL manually and then visit the site.
** This example has a Title, Html URL, media URL, creator and publish time and date. +10k records.

==== Music ====
* [http://www.somesongs.com/ somesongs]
** Has song title (linked to more info), artist (linked to more info), play link (to mp3), and rating

* [http://www.bradsucks.net/music/ Brad Sucks » music]
** Has album title, song title, separate link to more info, inline flash player, and play link (to mp3)

* [http://www.scottandrew.com/music/ Scott Andrew - lo-fi acoustic pop superhero! > music >]
** Has album title, song title, album artwork, streaming link (to m3u), and play link (to mp3)

* [http://magnatune.com/genres/rock/ Magnatune]
** Has artist (linked to more info), artist description, album title (linked to more info), lofi streaming link (to m3u), hifi streaming link (to m3u), link to more info, link to license info, link to purchase info.

* [http://www.songfight.org/ SONG FIGHT!]
** Has theme, artist/play link (to mp3).

* [http://www.yes.com/ Yes.com]
** Music played in last hour ([http://www.yes.com/lookup.php?s=WERS example])
*** Flash page with track play time, artist, title, cover art. Affiliate linked to iTunes music store.
** Top 100 Chart ([http://www.yes.com/top100.php?s=WXKS example])
*** HTML page with chart position, last week's chart position, artist, title (affiliate link to iTunes music store)

* [http://www.hearingdouble.co.uk/dumb/index2.html Portishead Remixed]
** Whole page is for one album (a mash-up remix of a Portishead album). Has Album Track Number and Title (linked to mp3) and Remixer's name, plus cover art. Also a link to the BitTorrent download of the whole album.

* MySpace (examples: [http://myspace.com/theradioknives] [http://www.myspace.com/singsinguk] [http://www.myspace.com/arcticmonkeys])
** Artist pages containing embedded flash players. Song title starts song playing on embedded player. Download link optionally links to mp3.
** Link to artist's homepage, band members, influences, biography.

* [http://musicbrainz.org MusicBrainz.org]
** MusicBrainz provides a catalog of music metadata such as the [http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/ArtistName artist name], the [http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/ReleaseTitle release title], and the list of [http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/Track tracks] that appear on a release.
** Since 2005, users have the option to further relate each of these entities using a detailed set of [http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/AdvancedRelationships relationships] (i.e. who played which instrument on a release/track).
** Examples: [http://musicbrainz.org/browseartists.html browse] and [http://musicbrainz.org/search.html search] the catalog

* [http://reactor-core.org/ogg-tagging.html Vorbis Comment Recommendations]
** Comment fields development by the Ogg/Vorbis community to consistently describe audio files.

=== Video ===
Publication of video on blogs often goes by "videoblogging", "vlogging", "VODcasting", or "video podcasting". The typical process involves publishing a direct link to the video file within the blog entry. The blog entry can, but does not have to, include an embedded video player. Many videos include a thumbnail jpg which is clickable to the media object and player. Some video includes links to those other source videos, photos and audio that have been quoted. Most videos have the same base elements as photos and audio, with the exception of quotes.

==== Individual publishing of video ====

* [http://FreeVlog.org FreeVlog]: the most popular tutorial on the web describing the videoblogging process by combining free tools and services (Blogger, OurMedia/Internet Archive, FeedBurner).
** According to this process, a videoblog entry contains:
*** Direct link to the video file
*** Clickable thumbnail image/screen capture of the video
*** Contextual information about the video (title, description, etc) is usually contained in the surrounding blog entry

* [http://joshkinberg.com/popupmaker Video Pop Up Maker]
** This example based on the process taught at [http://FreeVlog.org FreeVlog] generates code to create a dynamic pop up window with embedded video player. The reasons for this are enumerated [http://www.unmediated.org/archives/2005/10/easily_create_p.php here]

* [http://ryanedit.blogspot.com/2006/01/light-water-music-2.html Ryanne's Video Blog]
** This example has a Title, Html URL, media URL, thumbnail url, description or summary, creator, and publish time. +50k

* [http://www.prototypen.com/blog/vjblog/archives/001244.html Artificial Eye: fALks world news view 05|07|11 video post]
** This example has a Title, Html URL, media URL, thumbnail url, description or summary, creator, quotes URLs and description, and publish time. +10k (quotes +5k)

* [http://www.itsjerrytime.com/ It's JerryTime! - episodic video content]
** This example has a Title, Html URL, media URL, thumbnail url and creator. +10k records.

* [http://www.bottomunion.com/blog/ Bottom Union combined video + text blog]
** This example has a Title, Html URL, media URL, thumbnail URL, description or summary, creator, tags and publish time and date. +5k blogs

* [http://kitchenarts.blogspot.com/ KitchenArts instructional/marketing video blog]
** This example has a Title, Html URL, media URL, thumbnail URL, description or summary, creator, and publish time and date. +5k blogs

* [http://weblog.infoworld.com/udell/2005/12/06.html#a1348 Jon Udell's Weblog: Greasemonkeying Google Videomedia - blog post with quoting of video via greasemonkey plugin]. This example *may* be better suited to a study from the perspective of a citation.
** This example has a Title, Html URL, media URL, description or summary, creator, quote URLs and description, license and publish time. >100 records but is climbing rapidly.

* [http://rocketboom.com/vlog/ Rocketboom daily with amanda congdon - daily video posting in a blog-like format, with quoting of video, audio photos]
** This example has a Title, Html URL, media URL, description or summary, creator, quote URLs and description, license and publish time. This example also "auto-plays", that is, starts playing the video in the normal browser/HTML view upon loading of the page. +20k

==== Service publishing of video ====

* [http://blip.tv/ blip.tv - video blogging, podcasting and sharing service]
** This example has a Title, Html URL, media URL, thumbnail URL, description or summary, license, creator, tags and upload time. +1m across all hosters. +10k records.

* [http://youtube.com/ YouTube - Broadcast Yourself - video hosting and sharing service]
** This example has a Title, Html URL, thumbnail URL, description or summary, license, creator, tags and upload time. +1m across all hosters. +15k records.

* [http://mefeedia.com/ Mefeedia] - Mefeedia is the best place to find free videoblogs or video podcasts.
** This example has a Title, Html URL, thumbnail URL, thumbnail title, media type overlay icon, creator.

* [http://vimeo.com/ Vimeo] - The Flickr of Video
** This example has a Title, thumbnail (class=moduleClipThumb), thumbnail URL, Html URL, creator.

* [http://DailyMotion.com/ DailyMotion] - Watch, publish, share
** This example has a thumbnail (class=category_minilist_item_video_preview_image), with an Html URL, thumbnail URL, certain info (class=category_minilist_infos), title (class=category_minilist_item_title), href to country tag (with image icon with class=category_minilist_item_flag, image title set to country name).

=== Photos ===
* A few photos online have region annotation and quoting. But as tools are developed that are usable for mass publishers, this will likely increase.
* Many videos have thumbnails that are jpgs.
* Many videos use pictures and therefore the pictures themselves are quotes from the video.
* Most photos have the same elements as videos and audio, with the exception of quotes.

==== Individual Publishing of Photos ====
* [http://blog.bouckenooghe.com/2005/09/01/em6-a-est-fache-avec-le-centimetre/ Blog A Brac » E=m6 a est fâché avec le centimètre - photo with annotated screen-caps]
** This example has a Title, Html URL, media URL, description or summary, creator, quotes and descriptions, tags/categories, and publish date and time. +200 across all individually blogged photos.
* [http://scribbling.net/projects/fotonotesrolloverviewer/fotonotesplugin.php?p=helicopterovernyc.jpg Scribbling.net implementation of Fotonotes Plugin demonstrating the fotonotes annotation tool for photos]
** This example has media url, quotes and descriptions, creator. +200 across all individually blogged photos.

* For more work along the lines of 2d annotations, please see (and add to) [[photo-note-examples]].

==== Service publishing of photos ====

* [http://www.flickr.com/photos/500hats/50282408/ Flickr - Photo Sharing instance of a photo.]
** This example has a Title, Html URL, media URL, description or summary, quotes URLs and descriptions, licence, tags, upload time, playlist (set), license, creator, and other capture data. +millions across all hosters. +millions of records.

* [http://www.webshots.com/search?query=san+francisco&new=1&source=search_results_top Webshots - Search results, gallery view.]
** This example has a Title, Html URL, creator, licence, Premium/Standard access.

* [http://www.webshots.com/g/32/579-sh/25695.html Webshots - Single photo view.]
** This example has a Title, Html URL, creator, licence, link to creator's other photos. Three alternate download sizes, link to buy a print. Link to add as favorite. Link to next, previous photos in collection. Photo belongs to generic category (no tags). Links to related photo searches.

== Notes on Existing Practices ==

Mary Hodder:
* We are finding as we look at thousands of user generated media records, that all have titles, creator, at least a default licensing, most have tags whose functionality is made available through the hosting service (the richer the media, the more likely tagging goes toward 100%), Html and media URLs, thumbnail URLs, publishing date, and about 25% have quoting information of some sort (quotes of video or audio, and region quotes of photos).
* Tags apparently appear at the upload point on 61% of photos in Flickr, and within a short period, 80+% have tags. 12% of users in Flickr apparently tag photos other than their own.

== Next Steps ==
# Add more real-world, simple, minimal examples.
# Research and organize existing/previous [[media-info-formats]], with a focus on formats for publishing '''common''', '''user-visible''' media information.
# Start [[media-info-brainstorming]] based on examples.

== See Also ==
* [[media-metadata-examples]] - previous attempt to catalog and organize top down metadata systems generated by engineers and committees, as examples of elements, and includes formats which should be in a separate page. Useful as a source of research but this microformat needs to embrace the bottomup ways users are publishing photos, video and audio online.

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DeanEro: Fixed my misformatted links

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DeanEro: /* Artist pages */

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2006-06-29T01:14:30Z

DeanEro: Added release sites-- usually produced by labels in conjunction with record releases

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DeanEro: /* Artist pages */

User:DeanEro

2006-06-29T00:56:57Z

DeanEro:

New Media/Technologist sort of person with Sub Pop Records.

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DeanEro: Examples from larger indie bands/labels