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		<id>http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=User:GeoffreySneddon&amp;diff=34708</id>
		<title>User:GeoffreySneddon</title>
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		<updated>2008-11-19T21:50:25Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;GeoffreySneddon: Public domain release&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;{{cc-public-domain-release}}&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>GeoffreySneddon</name></author>
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	<entry>
		<id>http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=hresume-issues&amp;diff=34707</id>
		<title>hresume-issues</title>
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		<updated>2008-11-19T21:48:10Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;GeoffreySneddon: Yeah, I broke the formatting in my last change.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;h1&amp;gt; hResume issues &amp;lt;/h1&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
These are externally raised issues about [[hresume|hResume]] with broadly varying degrees of merit.  Thus some issues are REJECTED for a number of obvious reasons (but still documented here in case they are re-raised), and others contain longer discussions.  Some issues may be ACCEPTED and perhaps cause changes or improved explanations in the spec.  Submitted issues may (and probably will) be edited and rewritten for better terseness, clarity, calmness, rationality, and as neutral a point of view as possible. Write your issues well. — [http://tantek.com/log/ Tantek]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
See related [[hcalendar-issues]].&lt;br /&gt;
See related [[hcard-issues]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
__TOC__&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Issues == &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* {{OpenIssue}} 2007-10-02 raised by [[User:JeffMcNeill|jeffmcneill]].&lt;br /&gt;
*# ''Support for Awards and for Service sections are not currently implemented''&lt;br /&gt;
*#* I have attempted to use the Experience tag, however am unclear whether this will break things. Please see [http://jeffmcneill.com/microformats/hresume-jeffmcneill.html the example here]. --[[User:JeffMcNeill|jeffmcneill]] 04:09, 2 Oct 2007 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* {{OpenIssue}} 2007-06-21 raised by [[User:Steve_Ganz|Steve Ganz]].&lt;br /&gt;
*# ''rel-tag can be difficult to implement for &amp;quot;skill&amp;quot; ''&lt;br /&gt;
*#* In Draft, version 0.1 it is required that each &amp;quot;skill&amp;quot; be marked up with rel-tag. While this is a good idea, and easy to do for individuals, it poses some challenges in the real world for large publishers of user generated resume data.  If rel-tag was optional for &amp;quot;skills&amp;quot;, it would be easier to implement. &lt;br /&gt;
*#* +1, expecting a resume author to link out to a hypothetical tagspace is an unnecessary barrier to entry.  In reality authors end up linking to places like WikiPedia, which is not a real tagspace as defined in rel-tag. We should look at a more complex skill format for both this and the issue below opened by NTollervey. --[[User:CiaranMc|Ciaran McNulty]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* {{OpenIssue}} 2007-01-04 raised by [[User:NTollervey|ntoll]].&lt;br /&gt;
*# ''With regard to the &amp;quot;skill&amp;quot; attributes in a resume: often skills have an indication of the level of attainment - be it as a descriptive &amp;quot;tag&amp;quot; or a duration denoting the length of experience of the referenced skill. In fact, abstracting out a &amp;quot;skill&amp;quot; microformat might be useful for re-use in the job-listing (Vacancy?) microformat. That way, job requirements can be married to CVs. Although not a job-site, I like Sourceforge.net's skill inventory feature (that captures both a level and length of experience) although I think its implementation is horrendous.''&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* {{OpenIssue}} 2006-10-19 raised by [[RyanKing]].&lt;br /&gt;
*# ''There's currently no way to say 'present' in hCalendar''&lt;br /&gt;
*#* Many job experience listings will include jobs that the person is presently working at. Ciaran McNulty [http://microformats.org/discuss/mail/microformats-discuss/2006-October/006477.html correctly pointed out] that a blank DTEND does not indicate that the event is still ongoing. We need to find an easy way to make this work in hResume.&lt;br /&gt;
*#* Any solution should also be a valid hCalendar, which makes things even more difficult.  One possible solution would be to use an event without a DTEND for the current period of employment but have some extra class that indicates that within the semantics of hResume it's an ongoing event and let the hCalendar version just indicate the start of the employment. --[[User:CiaranMc|Ciaran McNulty]]&lt;br /&gt;
*#* Although not the best solution, for the time being, a date far ahead in the future (e.g., 2049-12-31) may have practical use (Note: Google Calendar can handle up to but not including year 2050) -- --[[User:Csarven|Sarven Capadisli]] 21:34, 18 November 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*#* I tend to just use the current date for dtend: anything else seems semantically wrong as an abbr of &amp;quot;present&amp;quot;. [[User:GeoffreySneddon|GeoffreySneddon]] 21:46, 19 November 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* {{OpenIssue}} 2006-10-19 raised by [[User:Steve_Ganz|Steve Ganz]].&lt;br /&gt;
*# ''There's currently no way to distinguish different hCard types in hResume''&lt;br /&gt;
*#* In Draft, version 0.1 it is specified that a parent element of &amp;lt;code&amp;gt;address&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt; should be used to the distinguish an hCard as the subject's contact info. This proves problematic to implement because &amp;lt;code&amp;gt;address&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt; cannot contain block level elements. To avoid sacrificing semantic value by restricting the child elements of an hCard to inline elements, we need to settle on an alternate method to classify a subject's hCard as thier contact info.&lt;br /&gt;
*#* In any given experience there may be one or more hCards. One which would be the subject's hCard for that experience and the other for a supervisor or manager, etc. We need a way to distinguish different hCards in a given experience.&lt;br /&gt;
:::* Agreed, when adding my references in hCard to the bottom of my hResume it became apparent there was no way I could mark 'my' hCard as the one belonging to the subject of the hResume.  Perhaps @class=&amp;quot;hcard subject&amp;quot; as a child of the hResume? [[User:CiaranMc|Ciaran McNulty]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Template ==&lt;br /&gt;
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{{issues-format}}&lt;br /&gt;
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== Related Pages ==&lt;br /&gt;
{{hresume-related-pages}}&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>GeoffreySneddon</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=hresume-issues&amp;diff=34706</id>
		<title>hresume-issues</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=hresume-issues&amp;diff=34706"/>
		<updated>2008-11-19T21:46:37Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;GeoffreySneddon: /* Issues */ Add my workaround for no present in hCal.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;h1&amp;gt; hResume issues &amp;lt;/h1&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
These are externally raised issues about [[hresume|hResume]] with broadly varying degrees of merit.  Thus some issues are REJECTED for a number of obvious reasons (but still documented here in case they are re-raised), and others contain longer discussions.  Some issues may be ACCEPTED and perhaps cause changes or improved explanations in the spec.  Submitted issues may (and probably will) be edited and rewritten for better terseness, clarity, calmness, rationality, and as neutral a point of view as possible. Write your issues well. — [http://tantek.com/log/ Tantek]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
See related [[hcalendar-issues]].&lt;br /&gt;
See related [[hcard-issues]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
__TOC__&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Issues == &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* {{OpenIssue}} 2007-10-02 raised by [[User:JeffMcNeill|jeffmcneill]].&lt;br /&gt;
*# ''Support for Awards and for Service sections are not currently implemented''&lt;br /&gt;
*#* I have attempted to use the Experience tag, however am unclear whether this will break things. Please see [http://jeffmcneill.com/microformats/hresume-jeffmcneill.html the example here]. --[[User:JeffMcNeill|jeffmcneill]] 04:09, 2 Oct 2007 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* {{OpenIssue}} 2007-06-21 raised by [[User:Steve_Ganz|Steve Ganz]].&lt;br /&gt;
*# ''rel-tag can be difficult to implement for &amp;quot;skill&amp;quot; ''&lt;br /&gt;
*#* In Draft, version 0.1 it is required that each &amp;quot;skill&amp;quot; be marked up with rel-tag. While this is a good idea, and easy to do for individuals, it poses some challenges in the real world for large publishers of user generated resume data.  If rel-tag was optional for &amp;quot;skills&amp;quot;, it would be easier to implement. &lt;br /&gt;
*#* +1, expecting a resume author to link out to a hypothetical tagspace is an unnecessary barrier to entry.  In reality authors end up linking to places like WikiPedia, which is not a real tagspace as defined in rel-tag. We should look at a more complex skill format for both this and the issue below opened by NTollervey. --[[User:CiaranMc|Ciaran McNulty]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* {{OpenIssue}} 2007-01-04 raised by [[User:NTollervey|ntoll]].&lt;br /&gt;
*# ''With regard to the &amp;quot;skill&amp;quot; attributes in a resume: often skills have an indication of the level of attainment - be it as a descriptive &amp;quot;tag&amp;quot; or a duration denoting the length of experience of the referenced skill. In fact, abstracting out a &amp;quot;skill&amp;quot; microformat might be useful for re-use in the job-listing (Vacancy?) microformat. That way, job requirements can be married to CVs. Although not a job-site, I like Sourceforge.net's skill inventory feature (that captures both a level and length of experience) although I think its implementation is horrendous.''&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* {{OpenIssue}} 2006-10-19 raised by [[RyanKing]].&lt;br /&gt;
*# ''There's currently no way to say 'present' in hCalendar''&lt;br /&gt;
*#* Many job experience listings will include jobs that the person is presently working at. Ciaran McNulty [http://microformats.org/discuss/mail/microformats-discuss/2006-October/006477.html correctly pointed out] that a blank DTEND does not indicate that the event is still ongoing. We need to find an easy way to make this work in hResume.&lt;br /&gt;
*#* Any solution should also be a valid hCalendar, which makes things even more difficult.  One possible solution would be to use an event without a DTEND for the current period of employment but have some extra class that indicates that within the semantics of hResume it's an ongoing event and let the hCalendar version just indicate the start of the employment. --[[User:CiaranMc|Ciaran McNulty]]&lt;br /&gt;
*#* Although not the best solution, for the time being, a date far ahead in the future (e.g., 2049-12-31) may have practical use (Note: Google Calendar can handle up to but not including year 2050) -- --[[User:Csarven|Sarven Capadisli]] 21:34, 18 November 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
 *#* I tend to just use the current date for dtend: anything else seems semantically wrong as an abbr of &amp;quot;present&amp;quot;. [[User:GeoffreySneddon|GeoffreySneddon]] 21:46, 19 November 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* {{OpenIssue}} 2006-10-19 raised by [[User:Steve_Ganz|Steve Ganz]].&lt;br /&gt;
*# ''There's currently no way to distinguish different hCard types in hResume''&lt;br /&gt;
*#* In Draft, version 0.1 it is specified that a parent element of &amp;lt;code&amp;gt;address&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt; should be used to the distinguish an hCard as the subject's contact info. This proves problematic to implement because &amp;lt;code&amp;gt;address&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt; cannot contain block level elements. To avoid sacrificing semantic value by restricting the child elements of an hCard to inline elements, we need to settle on an alternate method to classify a subject's hCard as thier contact info.&lt;br /&gt;
*#* In any given experience there may be one or more hCards. One which would be the subject's hCard for that experience and the other for a supervisor or manager, etc. We need a way to distinguish different hCards in a given experience.&lt;br /&gt;
:::* Agreed, when adding my references in hCard to the bottom of my hResume it became apparent there was no way I could mark 'my' hCard as the one belonging to the subject of the hResume.  Perhaps @class=&amp;quot;hcard subject&amp;quot; as a child of the hResume? [[User:CiaranMc|Ciaran McNulty]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Template ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{issues-format}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Related Pages ==&lt;br /&gt;
{{hresume-related-pages}}&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>GeoffreySneddon</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=html5&amp;diff=27866</id>
		<title>html5</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=html5&amp;diff=27866"/>
		<updated>2008-07-24T13:20:59Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;GeoffreySneddon: This should be a single list item.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;h1&amp;gt;Microformats in HTML 5&amp;lt;/h1&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
''This page is to document '''future''' use of microformats in [http://www.w3.org/html/wg/html5 HTML 5]. None of the items documented are supported now, and may change upon proper development within the microformats community, or changes in the HTML 5 specification. This page is to track HTML5 enabled enhancements to microformats, and issues that HTML5 raises. It may be used to track issues which we need to push back into the HTML 5 development process.''&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==New features in HTML5==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* '''&amp;lt;code&amp;gt;time&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt; element for representing date times'''. In HTML5, the machine form of datetimes can be represented natively. It should be possible to replace the date-time design pattern with native HTML.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* '''&amp;lt;code&amp;gt;data-&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt; naming convention for tag attributes'''. the draft specification states that any attribute that starts with &amp;quot;data-&amp;quot; will be treated as a storage area for private data.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Issues==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* '''The &amp;lt;code&amp;gt;rev&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt; attribute has been removed'''. In HTML5, &amp;lt;code&amp;gt;rel&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt; and &amp;lt;code&amp;gt;rev&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt; are no-longer paired, and the &amp;lt;code&amp;gt;rel&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt; attribute nolonger describes the direction of a relationship. Microformats which use &amp;lt;code&amp;gt;rev&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt; will need to use &amp;lt;code&amp;gt;rel&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt; instead.&lt;br /&gt;
* '''The &amp;lt;code&amp;gt;profile&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt; attribute has been removed'''. In HTML, the &amp;lt;code&amp;gt;profile&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt; attribute from the &amp;lt;code&amp;gt;head&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt; has been removed, with no direct replacement. This causes issues for GRDDL support. It's been suggested that profile URLs be represented in &amp;lt;code&amp;gt;link&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt; elements instead.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>GeoffreySneddon</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=html5&amp;diff=27865</id>
		<title>html5</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=html5&amp;diff=27865"/>
		<updated>2008-07-24T13:19:26Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;GeoffreySneddon: time element, not t element.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;h1&amp;gt;Microformats in HTML 5&amp;lt;/h1&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
''This page is to document '''future''' use of microformats in [http://www.w3.org/html/wg/html5 HTML 5]. None of the items documented are supported now, and may change upon proper development within the microformats community, or changes in the HTML 5 specification. This page is to track HTML5 enabled enhancements to microformats, and issues that HTML5 raises. It may be used to track issues which we need to push back into the HTML 5 development process.''&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==New features in HTML5==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* '''&amp;lt;code&amp;gt;time&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt; element for representing date times'''. In HTML5, the machine form of datetimes can be represented natively. It should be possible to replace the date-time design pattern with native HTML.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* '''&amp;lt;code&amp;gt;data-&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt; naming convention for tag attributes'''. the draft specification states that any&lt;br /&gt;
attribute that starts with &amp;quot;data-&amp;quot; will be treated as a storage area for private data.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Issues==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* '''The &amp;lt;code&amp;gt;rev&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt; attribute has been removed'''. In HTML5, &amp;lt;code&amp;gt;rel&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt; and &amp;lt;code&amp;gt;rev&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt; are no-longer paired, and the &amp;lt;code&amp;gt;rel&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt; attribute nolonger describes the direction of a relationship. Microformats which use &amp;lt;code&amp;gt;rev&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt; will need to use &amp;lt;code&amp;gt;rel&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt; instead.&lt;br /&gt;
* '''The &amp;lt;code&amp;gt;profile&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt; attribute has been removed'''. In HTML, the &amp;lt;code&amp;gt;profile&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt; attribute from the &amp;lt;code&amp;gt;head&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt; has been removed, with no direct replacement. This causes issues for GRDDL support. It's been suggested that profile URLs be represented in &amp;lt;code&amp;gt;link&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt; elements instead.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>GeoffreySneddon</name></author>
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