hresume-feedback

2006-12-15T12:08:08Z

StrawBleu: /* General Comments */

= hresume-feedback =

This document is for keeping track of feedback about [[hresume]], one of several [[microformats]].

== Feedback ==
=== General Questions ===
See the [[hresume-faq|hresume FAQ]].

=== General Comments ===

* Upon implementing [[hresume]] at [http://davecardwell.co.uk/cv/ http://davecardwell.co.uk/cv/], I had the following observations:

** I used [[hcalendar]]'s optional "description" element to include a short paragraph of text about each section of education/employment. The examples on the [[hresume]] page could be updated to mention this ability.

** A richer way of marking up qualifications would have been nice. If you view the source of my resume you'll see I marked up each subject as a "skill". This, however, doesn't convey any information about the level or grade achieved. The minimal set for the main educational qualifications in England seems to be qualification(level, subject(s), grade(s)). A section from my resume would then be:
<pre> <tbody class="qualification">
<tr>
<td class="level" rowspan="2">
<abbr title="Advanced">A</abbr> Level
</td>
<th class="subject" scope="row">
Business Studies
</th>
<td class="grade">
B
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<th class="subject" scope="row">
Computing
</th>
<td class="grade">
A
</td>
</tr>
</tbody></pre>

Further investigation might show the need for optional information about awarding bodies and such. Not sure if a qualification element would satisfy the 80/20 condition.

[[User:Dave Cardwell|Dave Cardwell]] 06:53, 19 Feb 2006 (GMT)

* I and others on the #microformats IRC channel have expressed a concern about the way skills are represented. Introducing unnecessary links into a resume is undesirable, especially when you have to link to a page like [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perl http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perl] to conform to the rel-tag standard while [http://www.perl.org/ http://www.perl.org] might be more intuitive. Non-visual user agents like screen readers will have a great deal of meaningless links to trawl through, and search engines may infer relationships that do not exist.

[[User:Dave Cardwell|Dave Cardwell]] 04:54, 22 Feb 2006 (GMT)

* Our thoughts:
We would love to be able to mark-up the following data:

Contact Info = hCard

Experience (our issue is with current employment)*
[company name]
[position/title]
[dates]
[location]
[Description]

Education
[school]
[major]
[degree]
[dates]
[location]

Accreditation
[type] (PD, CPA, JD and so on)
[date]

*how do you represent current positions that have no end date? Maybe lack of date means present?

Here is our hResume plugin for WordPress (in development):
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[[User:Alexander Muse|Alexander Muse]] 08:54, 11 May 2006 (GMT)

*Suggestion: Reference information - should there be a field of "References", where hCard information would be held for references? Also, perhaps a distinction between three types (e.g. personal (a friend), professional (e.g. previous boss), educational (e.g. university lecturer)) in a similar method to hCard's telephone type distinctions? If this is already accounted for, what method would you suggest for implementing this?

*When working on my resume I tried to mark it up as hResume but I hit a couple of show-stoppers for me. If I had the choice of marking it up to look and behave like I wanted or be a valid hResume I'd chose for former and that's what I ended up having to do. My issues were:
**It's recommended to put the contact hCard in an <address> but address is inline and I wanted to put block elements in there. I could have worked around that with CSS display: but I wanted to be able to render to text with links or w3m which don't support enough CSS for that.
*** Actually, <address> is a block-level element. And the spec says that is <strong>should</strong> be used, but not that it <strong>must</strong> be used.
**hResume builds on rel-tag for describing skills, but I didn't want my skills section filled with links (no matter how they're rendered - I don't want them clickable).
*** Skills are optional, as are linking them.
[[User:Ianloic|Ianloic]] 15:58, 10 Dec 2006 (PST)

Question: has any consideration for hr-xml (www.hr-xml.org) been given in the production of hResume Microformat? I tried looking around the site but couldn't find anything specific. As someone working in the recruitment marketing industry I can see distinct benefits for the two formats converging.
[[User:Strawbleu|Strawbleu]] 12:09, 15 Dec 2006 (GMT)

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