http://microformats.org/wiki/api.php?action=feedcontributions&user=Mary+Hodder&feedformat=atomMicroformats Wiki - User contributions [en]2024-03-29T10:11:22ZUser contributionsMediaWiki 1.38.4http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=media-info-brainstorming&diff=4984media-info-brainstorming2006-01-24T20:54:52Z<p>Mary Hodder: </p>
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<div>= Brainstroming for Media Microformat =<br />
<br />
This is a brainstorm for media microformat. Examples of media-info can be found here [http://microformats.org/wiki/media-info-examples media-info-examples]<br />
<br />
== Contributors ==<br />
<br />
* [http://napsterization.org/stories/ Mary Hodder]<br />
* [http://onlisareinsradar.com/ Lisa Rein]<br />
<br />
== The Problem ==<br />
<br />
There are infinite ways to publish media by users, but as people try to access those remixing and aggregation become more and more prevalent, having consistent records becomes important. Audio, photos and video show up in each other's publishing spaces, even though they are unique media objects. A photo might be next to the link for an audio piece, as it's visual artwork. A video can be comprised of quotes of other videos, photos and audio. Still photos can be made from videos. All three types of objects can contain subsets of media that is tagged and described. Having a single publishing format to relate them as needed in an organized structure makes sense.<br />
<br />
== Elements that come up often in practice ==<br />
Here are some examples of elements that might be included because they seem to come up often in user generated media publishing, either on their own blogs or on service sites, include the following:<br />
<br />
<strong>Base elements:</strong><br />
* Title<br />
* Html URL<br />
* Media URL<br />
* Image URL (video and audio)<br />
* Tags<br />
* Description / summary<br />
* Quotes (subsets of the object: a video quote and tags/description associated with it, a region annotation note for a photo, or the quote of a podcast or audio piece, with tags/description -- the technical detail for these subsets exists in the 'more info' section below)<br />
* Creator<br />
* License (defaults to copyright, if none exists, but it's there, by US law, and many other areas of the world)<br />
<br />
and for audio and visual:<br />
* Duration<br />
<br />
<strong>Other info</strong>:<br />
(This is not the same for all types of media, and is published by users in very limited ways in practice, or is captured from the device or service or in some way, invisible to the user, and therefore often depends on a service to pick it up. It should only appear in a publishing tool under 'more data' at then end, for enthusiast users.)<br />
<br />
<table border="1" cellspacing="2" cellpadding="2"><br />
<br />
<tr><th><strong>JPG</strong></th><th><strong>Video</strong></th><th><strong>Audio</strong></th></tr><br />
<br />
<tr><th>Device</th><th>Device</th><th>Device</th></tr><br />
<br />
<tr><th>Ratio</th><th>Aspect Ratio</th><th>?</th></tr><br />
<br />
<tr><th>file size</th><th>file size</th><th>file size</th></tr><br />
<br />
<tr><th>.</th><th>codek</th><th>?</th></tr><br />
<br />
<tr><th>.</th><th>bit / frame rate</th><th>bit rate</th></tr><br />
<br />
<tr><th>Portrait or Landscape</th><th>.</th><th>.</th></tr><br />
<br />
<tr><th>Region Annotation (subphotos: calculation of location, size)</th><th>Quotes of Video (subvideo: in and out points)</th><th>Quotes of Audio (subaudio: in and out points)</th></tr><br />
<br />
<tr><th>iPod compliant?</th><th>iPod compliant?</th><th>iPod compliant?</th></tr><br />
<br />
<tr><th>Time</th><th>Time</th><th>Date</th></tr><br />
<br />
<tr><th>Date</th><th>Date</th><th>Date</th></tr><br />
<br />
<tr><th>Inclusion in playlist?</th><th>Inclusion in playlist?</th><th>Inclusion in playlist?</th></tr><br />
<br />
</table></div>Mary Hodderhttp://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=media-info-examples&diff=4785media-info-examples2006-01-24T20:19:52Z<p>Mary Hodder: move some misclassified items, correct typos</p>
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<div>= Media Info Examples =<br />
<br />
== Contributors ==<br />
<br />
* [http://tantek.com/log/ Tantek Çelik]<br />
* [http://joshkinberg.com/blog/ Joshua Kinberg]<br />
* [http://napsterization.org/stories/ Mary Hodder]<br />
* [http://onlisareinsradar.com/ Lisa Rein]<br />
<br />
== Introduction ==<br />
<br />
Examples of what people actually publish on the Web when discussing, linking to, referring to media. This is focused predominantly on time based media such as audio and video, but may consider aspects of static media as well such as still images.<br />
<br />
== Emphasis on Practical, Simple, and Minimal ==<br />
<br />
Since all previous known attempts at this problem area have ended up quite complex and over-designed, this attempt will place simplicity and minimalism first and foremost.<br />
<br />
Thus for now, this document is deliberately restricted to examples that are:<br />
* ''Actual'' examples in practice on the Web '''with URLs''' to the originals (note, all *-examples pages should be like this, but previous attempts at documenting media info examples have mostly ignored this requirement, and thus it is necessary to be explicit).<br />
* Representative of ''very common'' publishing behavior on the Web. This focus on common, representative examples is essential. If possible, include an estimate of the number of similar examples. E.g. ~10k.<br />
* Simple and minimalist. As simple as possible. Go read [http://microformats.org/wiki/microformats#the_microformats_principles the microformats principles] right now before proceeding any further.<br />
<br />
Any examples added which do not conform to these requirements will be deleted.<br />
<br />
Any generic analysis will also be deleted. Analysis before examples is premature. Once there are sufficient media-info-examples, and hopefully a simple/clean listing of [[media-info-formats]], we'll hopefully start a [[media-info-brainstorming]] page to do aggregate analysis of the examples.<br />
<br />
== Table of Contents ==<br />
<br />
__TOC__<br />
<br />
== Real World Examples ==<br />
<br />
=== Overall Notes About Examples ===<br />
These examples are organized into a short list of top level media categories, in the hopes that it will be easier to determine if there are media specific publishing behaviors, in addition to common behaviors across multiple types of media. Some may be subcategorized and distinguished by whether it was published by an individual publisher or a service:<br />
* Audio (Speech, Music)<br />
* Video<br />
* Photos <br />
<br />
The numbers after some of the examples' descriptions are based on numbers found pulling in media records at Dabble. Others may have higher numbers and would be encouraged to restate them if that's true.<br />
<br />
=== Audio ===<br />
==== Speech ====<br />
Publication of audio speeches on blogs is often called "podcasting". In essence though, it is simply audio speech publishing. Quotes of audio files are beginning to appear, and publishers are putting up files with links to other audio files they've quoted from. Most audio appears to often have the same base elements as video and photos, with the exception of quotes.<br />
<br />
===== Individual Publishing of Speech =====<br />
<br />
* [http://www.microformats.org/blog/2005/09/30/web-essentials-audio/ Microformats: Web Essentials Audio]<br />
** Appears to be composed of:<br />
*** title/summary of the recording<br />
*** clickable hyperlink to the recording (MP3)<br />
** Contextual:<br />
*** (primary) speaker is indicated in nearby text<br />
<br />
* [http://www.thechrispirilloshow.com/help/20060119_chuck_cummins_on_windows_vista_interface_design.phtml Chris Pirillo podcast]<br />
** This example has a Title, Html URL, media URL(s), description or summary, categories/tags underneath what is viewable, and date. +10k<br />
<br />
* [http://yukelzon.blogspot.com/2006/01/podcasts.html Reflog's Random Thoughts podcast]<br />
** This example has a Title, Html URL, description or summary, creator, tags and publish time and date. +10k records.<br />
<br />
* [http://www.evilgeniuschronicles.org/wordpress/2006/01/12/egc-clambake-for-january-12-2006/ Evil Genius Chronicles podcast]<br />
** This example has a Title, Html URL, description or summary, quotes URLs and descriptions, licence, creator, tags and publish time and date. +10k records.<br />
<br />
* [http://www(dot)bizbyjake.com/2006/01/how-are-you-doing.html media published from a blog, Jake Steinfeld's Audio Blog] NOTE: this record had trouble because mediawiki blocks any DOTbiz domains and so while this domain coincidentally has a DOTbizbyjake.com name that is not a TLD, it was still blocked in the loading of the page with this example. So please adjust the URL manually and then visit the site.<br />
** This example has a Title, Html URL, media URL, creator and publish time and date. +10k records.<br />
<br />
==== Music ====<br />
* [http://www.somesongs.com/ somesongs]<br />
** Has song title (linked to more info), artist (linked to more info), play link (to mp3), and rating<br />
<br />
* [http://www.bradsucks.net/music/ Brad Sucks &raquo; music]<br />
** Has album title, song title, separate link to more info, inline flash player, and play link (to mp3)<br />
<br />
* [http://www.scottandrew.com/music/ Scott Andrew - lo-fi acoustic pop superhero! > music >]<br />
** Has album title, song title, album artwork, streaming link (to m3u), and play link (to mp3)<br />
<br />
* [http://magnatune.com/genres/rock/ Magnatune]<br />
** Has artist (linked to more info), artist description, album title (linked to more info), lofi streaming link (to m3u), hifi streaming link (to m3u), link to more info, link to license info, link to purchase info.<br />
<br />
* [http://www.songfight.org/ SONG FIGHT!]<br />
** Has theme, artist/play link (to mp3).<br />
<br />
=== Video ===<br />
Publication of video on blogs often goes by "videoblogging", "vlogging", "VODcasting", or "video podcasting". The typical process involves publishing a direct link to the video file within the blog entry. The blog entry can, but does not have to, include an embedded video player. Many videos include a thumbnail jpg which is clickable to the media object and player. Some video includes links to those other source videos, photos and audio that have been quoted. Most videos have the same base elements as photos and audio, with the exception of quotes.<br />
<br />
==== Individual publishing of video ====<br />
<br />
* [http://FreeVlog.org FreeVlog]: the most popular tutorial on the web describing the videoblogging process by combining free tools and services (Blogger, OurMedia/Internet Archive, FeedBurner).<br />
** According to this process, a videoblog entry contains:<br />
*** Direct link to the video file<br />
*** Clickable thumbnail image/screen capture of the video<br />
*** Contextual information about the video (title, description, etc) is usually contained in the surrounding blog entry<br />
<br />
* [http://joshkinberg.com/popupmaker Video Pop Up Maker]<br />
** This example based on the process taught at [http://FreeVlog.org FreeVlog] generates code to create a dynamic pop up window with embedded video player. The reasons for this are enumerated [http://www.unmediated.org/archives/2005/10/easily_create_p.php here]<br />
<br />
* [http://ryanedit.blogspot.com/2006/01/light-water-music-2.html Ryanne's Video Blog]<br />
** This example has a Title, Html URL, media URL, thumbnail url, description or summary, creator, and publish time. +50k<br />
<br />
* [http://www.prototypen.com/blog/vjblog/archives/001244.html Artificial Eye: fALks world news view 05|07|11 video post]<br />
** This example has a Title, Html URL, media URL, thumbnail url, description or summary, creator, quotes URLs and description, and publish time. +10k (quotes +5k)<br />
<br />
* [http://www.itsjerrytime.com/ It's JerryTime! - episodic video content]<br />
** This example has a Title, Html URL, media URL, thumbnail url and creator. +10k records.<br />
<br />
* [http://www.bottomunion.com/Blog/ Bottom Union combined video + text blog]<br />
** This example has a Title, Html URL, media URL, thumbnail URL, description or summary, creator, tags and publish time and date. +5k blogs<br />
<br />
* [http://kitchenarts.blogspot.com/ KitchenArts instructional/marketing video blog]<br />
** This example has a Title, Html URL, media URL, thumbnail URL, description or summary, creator, and publish time and date. +5k blogs<br />
<br />
* [http://weblog.infoworld.com/udell/2005/12/06.html#a1348 Jon Udell's Weblog: Greasemonkeying Google Videomedia - blog post with quoting of video via greasemonkey plugin]. This example *may* be better suited to a study from the perspective of a citation.<br />
** This example has a Title, Html URL, media URL, description or summary, creator, quote URLs and description, license and publish time. >100 records but is climbing rapidly.<br />
<br />
* [http://rocketboom.com/vlog/ Rocketboom daily with amanda congdon - daily video posting in a blog-like format, with quoting of video, audio photos]<br />
** This example has a Title, Html URL, media URL, description or summary, creator, quote URLs and description, license and publish time. This example also "auto-plays", that is, starts playing the video in the normal browser/HTML view upon loading of the page. +20k<br />
<br />
==== Service publishing of video ====<br />
<br />
* [http://blip.tv/ blip.tv - video blogging, podcasting and sharing service]<br />
** This example has a Title, Html URL, media URL, thumbnail URL, description or summary, license, creator, tags and upload time. +1m across all hosters. +10k records.<br />
<br />
* [http://youtube.com/ YouTube - Broadcast Yourself - video hosting and sharing service]<br />
** This example has a Title, Html URL, thumbnail URL, description or summary, license, creator, tags and upload time. +1m across all hosters. +15k records.<br />
<br />
=== Photos ===<br />
* A few photos online have region annotation and quoting. But as tools are developed that are usable for mass publishers, this will likely increase.<br />
* Many videos have thumbnails that are jpgs.<br />
* Many videos use pictures and therefore the pictures themselves are quotes from the video.<br />
* Most photos have the same elements as videos and audio, with the exception of quotes.<br />
<br />
==== Individual Publishing of Photos ====<br />
* [http://blog.bouckenooghe.com/2005/09/01/em6-a-est-fache-avec-le-centimetre/ Blog A Brac &raquo; E=m6 a est fâché avec le centimètre - photo with annotated screen-caps]<br />
** This example has a Title, Html URL, media URL, description or summary, creator, quotes and descriptions, tags/categories, and publish date and time. +200 across all individually blogged photos.<br />
* [http://scribbling.net/projects/fotonotesrolloverviewer/fotonotesplugin.php?p=helicopterovernyc.jpg Scribbling.net implementation of Fotonotes Plugin demonstrating the fotonotes annotation tool for photos]<br />
** This example has media url, quotes and descriptions, creator. +200 across all individually blogged photos.<br />
<br />
* For more work along the lines of 2d annotations, please see (and add to) [[photo-note-examples]].<br />
<br />
==== Service publishing of photos ====<br />
<br />
* [http://www.flickr.com/photos/500hats/50282408/ Flickr - Photo Sharing instance of a photo.]<br />
** This example has a Title, Html URL, media URL, description or summary, quotes URLs and descriptions, licence, tags, upload time, playlist (set), license, creator, and other capture data. +millions across all hosters. +millions of records.<br />
<br />
== Notes on Existing Practices ==<br />
<br />
Mary Hodder:<br />
* We are finding as we look at thousands of user generated media records, that all have titles, creator, at least a default licensing, most have tags whose functionality is made available through the hosting service (the richer the media, the more likely tagging goes toward 100%), Html and media URLs, thumbnail URLs, publishing date, and about 25% have quoting information of some sort (quotes of video or audio, and region quotes of photos).<br />
* Tags apparently appear at the upload point on 61% of photos in Flickr, and within a short period, 80+% have tags. 12% of users in Flickr apparently tag photos other than their own.<br />
<br />
<br />
== Next Steps ==<br />
# Add more real-world, simple, minimal examples.<br />
# Research and organize existing/previous [[media-info-formats]], with a focus on formats for publishing '''common''', '''user-visible''' media information.<br />
# Start [[media-info-brainstorming]] based on examples.<br />
<br />
== See Also ==<br />
* [[media-metadata-examples]] - previous attempt to catalog and organize top down metadata systems generated by engineers and committees, as examples of elements, and includes formats which should be in a separate page. Useful as a source of research but this microformat needs to embrace the bottomup ways users are publishing photos, video and audio online.</div>Mary Hodderhttp://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=media-info-brainstorming&diff=4392media-info-brainstorming2006-01-22T00:28:55Z<p>Mary Hodder: </p>
<hr />
<div>= Brainstroming for Media Microformat =<br />
<br />
This is a brainstorm for media microformat. Examples of media-info can be found here [http://microformats.org/wiki/media-info-examples media-info-examples]<br />
<br />
== Contributors ==<br />
<br />
* [http://napsterization.org/stories/ Mary Hodder]<br />
* [http://onlisareinsradar.com/ Lisa Rein]<br />
<br />
== The Problem ==<br />
<br />
There are infinite ways to publish media by users, but as people try to access those remixing and aggregation become more and more prevalent, having consistent records becomes important. Audio, photos and video show up in each other's publishing spaces, even though they are unique media objects. A photo might be next to the link for an audio piece, as it's visual artwork. A video can be comprised of quotes of other videos, photos and audio. Still photos can be made from videos. All three types of objects can contain subsets of media that is tagged and described. Having a single publishing format to relate them as needed in an organized structure makes sense.<br />
<br />
== Elements that come up often in practice ==<br />
Here are some examples of elements that might be included because they seem to come up often in user generated media publishing, either on their own blogs or on service sites, include the following:<br />
<br />
<strong>Base elements:</strong><br />
* Title<br />
* Html URL<br />
* Media URL<br />
* Image URL (video)<br />
* Tags<br />
* Description / summary<br />
* Quotes (subsets of the object: a video quote and tags/description associated with it, a region annotation note for a photo, or the quote of a podcast or audio piece, with tags/description -- the technical detail for these subsets exists in the 'more info' section below)<br />
* Creator<br />
* License (defaults to copyright, if none exists, but it's there, by US law, and many other areas of the world)<br />
<br />
and for audio and visual:<br />
* Duration<br />
<br />
<strong>Other info</strong>:<br />
(This is not the same for all types of media, and is published by users in very limited ways in practice, or is captured from the device or service or in some way, invisible to the user, and therefore often depends on a service to pick it up. It should only appear in a publishing tool under 'more data' at then end, for enthusiast users.)<br />
<br />
<table border="1" cellspacing="2" cellpadding="2"><br />
<br />
<tr><th><strong>JPG</strong></th><th><strong>Video</strong></th><th><strong>Audio</strong></th></tr><br />
<br />
<tr><th>Device</th><th>Device</th><th>Device</th></tr><br />
<br />
<tr><th>Ratio</th><th>Aspect Ratio</th><th>?</th></tr><br />
<br />
<tr><th>file size</th><th>file size</th><th>file size</th></tr><br />
<br />
<tr><th>.</th><th>codek</th><th>?</th></tr><br />
<br />
<tr><th>.</th><th>bit / frame rate</th><th>bit rate</th></tr><br />
<br />
<tr><th>Portrait or Landscape</th><th>.</th><th>.</th></tr><br />
<br />
<tr><th>Region Annotation (subphotos: calculation of location, size)</th><th>Quotes of Video (subvideo: in and out points)</th><th>Quotes of Audio (subaudio: in and out points)</th></tr><br />
<br />
<tr><th>iPod compliant?</th><th>iPod compliant?</th><th>iPod compliant?</th></tr><br />
<br />
<tr><th>Time</th><th>Time</th><th>Date</th></tr><br />
<br />
<tr><th>Date</th><th>Date</th><th>Date</th></tr><br />
<br />
<tr><th>Inclusion in playlist?</th><th>Inclusion in playlist?</th><th>Inclusion in playlist?</th></tr><br />
<br />
</table></div>Mary Hodderhttp://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=media-info-brainstorming&diff=4280media-info-brainstorming2006-01-22T00:26:19Z<p>Mary Hodder: </p>
<hr />
<div>= Brainstroming for Media Microformat =<br />
<br />
This is a brainstorm for media microformat.<br />
<br />
== Contributors ==<br />
<br />
* [http://napsterization.org/stories/ Mary Hodder]<br />
* [http://onlisareinsradar.com/ Lisa Rein]<br />
<br />
== The Problem ==<br />
<br />
There are infinite ways to publish media by users, but as people try to access those remixing and aggregation become more and more prevalent, having consistent records becomes important. Audio, photos and video show up in each other's publishing spaces, even though they are unique media objects. A photo might be next to the link for an audio piece, as it's visual artwork. A video can be comprised of quotes of other videos, photos and audio. Still photos can be made from videos. All three types of objects can contain subsets of media that is tagged and described. Having a single publishing format to relate them as needed in an organized structure makes sense.<br />
<br />
== Elements that come up often in practice ==<br />
Here are some examples of elements that might be included because they seem to come up often in user generated media publishing, either on their own blogs or on service sites, include the following:<br />
<br />
<strong>Base elements:</strong><br />
* Title<br />
* Html URL<br />
* Media URL<br />
* Image URL (video)<br />
* Tags<br />
* Description / summary<br />
* Quotes (subsets of the object: a video quote and tags/description associated with it, a region annotation note for a photo, or the quote of a podcast or audio piece, with tags/description -- the technical detail for these subsets exists in the 'more info' section below)<br />
* Creator<br />
* License (defaults to copyright, if none exists, but it's there, by US law, and many other areas of the world)<br />
<br />
and for audio and visual:<br />
* Duration<br />
<br />
<strong>Other info</strong>:<br />
(This is not the same for all types of media, and is published by users in very limited ways in practice, or is captured from the device or service or in some way, invisible to the user, and therefore often depends on a service to pick it up. It should only appear in a publishing tool under 'more data' at then end, for enthusiast users.)<br />
<br />
<table border="1" cellspacing="2" cellpadding="2"><br />
<br />
<tr><th><strong>JPG</strong></th><th><strong>Video</strong></th><th><strong>Audio</strong></th></tr><br />
<br />
<tr><th>Device</th><th>Device</th><th>Device</th></tr><br />
<br />
<tr><th>Ratio</th><th>Aspect Ratio</th><th>?</th></tr><br />
<br />
<tr><th>file size</th><th>file size</th><th>file size</th></tr><br />
<br />
<tr><th>.</th><th>codek</th><th>?</th></tr><br />
<br />
<tr><th>.</th><th>bit / frame rate</th><th>bit rate</th></tr><br />
<br />
<tr><th>Portrait or Landscape</th><th>.</th><th>.</th></tr><br />
<br />
<tr><th>Region Annotation (subphotos: calculation of location, size)</th><th>Quotes of Video (subvideo: in and out points)</th><th>Quotes of Audio (subaudio: in and out points)</th></tr><br />
<br />
<tr><th>iPod compliant?</th><th>iPod compliant?</th><th>iPod compliant?</th></tr><br />
<br />
<tr><th>Time</th><th>Time</th><th>Date</th></tr><br />
<br />
<tr><th>Date</th><th>Date</th><th>Date</th></tr><br />
<br />
<tr><th>Inclusion in playlist?</th><th>Inclusion in playlist?</th><th>Inclusion in playlist?</th></tr><br />
<br />
</table></div>Mary Hodderhttp://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=media-info-brainstorming&diff=4279media-info-brainstorming2006-01-21T23:36:27Z<p>Mary Hodder: </p>
<hr />
<div>= Brainstroming for Media Microformat =<br />
<br />
Here are some examples of elements that might be included because they seem to come up often in user generated media publishing, either on their own blogs or on service sites, include the following:<br />
<br />
<strong>Base elements:</strong><br />
* Title<br />
* Html URL<br />
* Media URL<br />
* Image URL (video)<br />
* Tags<br />
* Description / summary<br />
* Quotes (subsets of the object: a video quote and tags/description associated with it, a region annotation note for a photo, or the quote of a podcast and tags/description -- the detail for these subsets exists in the 'more info' section below)<br />
* Creator<br />
* License (defaults to copyright, if none exists, but it's there, by US law, and many other areas of the world)<br />
<br />
and for audio and visual:<br />
* Duration<br />
<br />
<strong>Other info</strong>:<br />
(This is not the same for all types of media, and is published by users in very limited ways in practice, or is captured from the device or service or in some way, invisible to the user, and therefore often depends on a service to pick it up. It should only appear in a publishing tool under 'more data' at then end, for enthusiast users.)<br />
<br />
<table border="1" cellspacing="2" cellpadding="2"><br />
<br />
<tr><th><strong>JPG</strong></th><th><strong>Video</strong></th><th><strong>Audio</strong></th></tr><br />
<br />
<tr><th>Device</th><th>Device</th><th>Device</th></tr><br />
<br />
<tr><th>Ratio</th><th>Aspect Ratio</th><th>?</th></tr><br />
<br />
<tr><th>file size</th><th>file size</th><th>file size</th></tr><br />
<br />
<tr><th>.</th><th>codek</th><th>?</th></tr><br />
<br />
<tr><th>.</th><th>bit / frame rate</th><th>bit rate</th></tr><br />
<br />
<tr><th>Portrait or Landscape</th><th>.</th><th>.</th></tr><br />
<br />
<tr><th>Region Annotation (subphotos: calculation of location, size)</th><th>Quotes of Video (subvideo: in and out points)</th><th>Quotes of Audio (subaudio: in and out points)</th></tr><br />
<br />
<tr><th>iPod compliant?</th><th>iPod compliant?</th><th>iPod compliant?</th></tr><br />
<br />
<tr><th>Time</th><th>Time</th><th>Date</th></tr><br />
<br />
<tr><th>Date</th><th>Date</th><th>Date</th></tr><br />
<br />
<tr><th>Inclusion in playlist?</th><th>Inclusion in playlist?</th><th>Inclusion in playlist?</th></tr><br />
<br />
</table></div>Mary Hodderhttp://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=media-info-examples&diff=4373media-info-examples2006-01-21T22:20:03Z<p>Mary Hodder: added examples of rich media, descriptions of elements commonly found, and number estimates to examples</p>
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<div>= Media Info Examples =<br />
<br />
== Contributors ==<br />
<br />
* [http://tantek.com/log/ Tantek Çelik]<br />
* [http://joshkinberg.com/blog/ Joshua Kinberg]<br />
* [http://napsterization.org/stories/ Mary Hodder]<br />
* [http://onlisareinsradar.com/ Lisa Rein]<br />
<br />
== Introduction ==<br />
<br />
Examples of what people actually publish on the Web when discussing, linking to, referring to media. This is focused predominantly on time based media such as audio and video, but may consider aspects of static media as well such as still images.<br />
<br />
== Emphasis on Practical, Simple, and Minimal ==<br />
<br />
Since all previous known attempts at this problem area have ended up quite complex and over-designed, this attempt will place simplicity and minimalism first and foremost.<br />
<br />
Thus for now, this document is deliberately restricted to examples that are:<br />
* ''Actual'' examples in practice on the Web '''with URLs''' to the originals (note, all *-examples pages should be like this, but previous attempts at documenting media info examples have mostly ignored this requirement, and thus it is necessary to be explicit).<br />
* Representative of ''very common'' publishing behavior on the Web. This focus on common, representative examples is essential. If possible, include an estimate of the number of similar examples. E.g. ~10k.<br />
* Simple and minimalist. As simple as possible. Go read [http://microformats.org/wiki/microformats#the_microformats_principles the microformats principles] right now before proceeding any further.<br />
<br />
Any examples added which do not conform to these requirements will be deleted.<br />
<br />
Any generic analysis will also be deleted. Analysis before examples is premature. Once there are sufficient media-info-examples, and hopefully a simple/clean listing of [[media-info-formats]], we'll hopefully start a [[media-info-brainstorming]] page to do aggregate analysis of the examples.<br />
<br />
== Table of Contents ==<br />
<br />
__TOC__<br />
<br />
== Examples ==<br />
<br />
=== Examples Used in Media Published by Users ===<br />
<br />
==== Individual Publishing of Media ====<br />
(Note: the numbers after each description are based on numbers found pulling in media records at Dabble. Others may have higher numbers and would be encouraged to restate them if that's true.)<br />
* [http://ryanedit.blogspot.com/2006/01/light-water-music-2.html specific media published from a blog (video)]<br />
** This example has a Title, Html URL, media URL, thumbnail url, description or summary, creator, and publish time. +50k<br />
* [http://www.prototypen.com/blog/vjblog/archives/001244.html specific media published from a blog (video)]<br />
** This example has a Title, Html URL, media URL, thumbnail url, description or summary, creator, quotes URLs and description, and publish time. +10k (quotes +5k)<br />
* [http://www.thechrispirilloshow.com/help/20060119_chuck_cummins_on_windows_vista_interface_design.phtml specific media published from a blog (audio)]<br />
** This example has a Title, Html URL, media URL(s), description or summary, categories/tags underneath what is viewable, and date. +10k<br />
* [http://www.itsjerrytime.com/ specific media published from a blog (video)]<br />
** This example has a Title, Html URL, media URL, thumbnail url and creator. +10k records.<br />
* [http://yukelzon.blogspot.com/2006/01/podcasts.html specific media published from a blog (audio)]<br />
** This example has a Title, Html URL, description or summary, creator, tags and publish time and date. +10k records.<br />
* [http://www.evilgeniuschronicles.org/wordpress/2006/01/12/egc-clambake-for-january-12-2006/ specific media published from a blog (audio)]<br />
** This example has a Title, Html URL, description or summary, quotes URLs and descriptions, licence, creator, tags and publish time and date. +10k records.<br />
* [http://scribbling.net/projects/fotonotesrolloverviewer/fotonotesplugin.php?p=helicopterovernyc.jpg photo demonstrating the region annotation tool for photos]<br />
** This example has media url, quotes and descriptions, creator.<br />
* [http://www.bottomunion.com/Blog/ media published from a blog, full front page of posts (video)]<br />
** This example has a Title, Html URL, media URL, thumbnail URL, description or summary, creator, tags and publish time and date. +5k blogs<br />
* [http://kitchenarts.blogspot.com/ media publish from a blog, full front page of posts (video)]<br />
** This example has a Title, Html URL, media URL, thumbnail URL, description or summary, creator, and publish time and date. +5k blogs<br />
* [http://www(dot)bizbyjake.com/2006/01/how-are-you-doing.html media published from a blog, full front page of posts (audio)] NOTE: this record had trouble because mediawiki blocks any DOTbiz domains and so while this domain coincidentally has a DOTbizbyjake.com name that is not a TLD, it was still blocked in the loading of the page with this example. So please adjust the URL manually and then visit the site.<br />
** This example has a Title, Html URL, media URL, creator and publish time and date. +10k records.<br />
* [http://weblog.infoworld.com/udell/2005/12/06.html#a1348 media published from a blog, with quoting of video via greasemonkey plugin]<br />
** This example has a Title, Html URL, media URL, description or summary, creator, quote URLs and description, license and publish time. >100 records but is climbing rapidly.<br />
* [http://rocketboom.com/vlog/ media published from a blog, with quoting of video, audio photos]<br />
** This example has a Title, Html URL, media URL, description or summary, creator, quote URLs and description, license and publish time. +20k<br />
* [http://blog.bouckenooghe.com/2005/09/01/em6-a-est-fache-avec-le-centimetre/ media published from a blog, with region annotation that quotes sections of the photos]<br />
** This example has a Title, Html URL, media URL, description or summary, creator, quotes and descriptions, tags/categories, and publish date and time. +200 across all individually blogged photos.<br />
<br />
==== Service publishing of media ====<br />
* [http://www.flickr.com/photos/500hats/50282408/ specific media published on a service (flickr photo)]<br />
** This example has a Title, Html URL, media URL, description or summary, quotes URLs and descriptions, licence, tags, upload time, playlist (set), license, creator, and other capture data.+millions across all hosters. +millions of records.<br />
* [http://blip.tv/ A service publishing media: Blip.TV (video)]<br />
** This example has a Title, Html URL, media URL, thumbnail URL, description or summary, license, creator, tags and upload time. +1m across all hosters. +10k records.<br />
* [http://youtube.com/ A service publishing media: You Tube (video)]<br />
** This example has a Title, Html URL, thumbnail URL, description or summary, license, creator, tags and upload time. +1m across all hosters. +15k records.<br />
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==== Other indicators of data needs ====<br />
* [http://napsterization.org/stories/archives/000569.html Published usability study with bloggers regarding tags] Bloggers asked for better tagging options and more licensing options.<br />
* We are finding as we look at thousands of user generated media records, that all have titles, creator, at least a default licensing, most have tags whose functionality is made available through the hosting service (the richer the media, the more likely tagging goes toward 100%), Html and media URLs, thumbnail URLs, publishing date, and about 25% have quoting information of some sort (quotes of video or audio, and region quotes of photos).<br />
* Tags appears at the upload point on 61% of photos in Flickr, and within a short period, 80+% have tags. 12% of users in Flickr apparently tag photos other than their own.<br />
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=== Audio ===<br />
==== Speech ====<br />
Publication of audio speeches on blogs is often called "podcasting". In essence though, it is simply audio speech publishing. Quotes of audio files are beginning to appear, and publishers are putting up files with links to other audio files they've quoted from. Most audio has the same base elements as video and photos, with the exception of quotes.<br />
<br />
* [http://www.microformats.org/blog/2005/09/30/web-essentials-audio/ Microformats: Web Essentials Audio]<br />
** Appears to be composed of:<br />
*** title/summary of the recording<br />
*** clickable hyperlink to the recording (MP3)<br />
** Contextual:<br />
*** (primary) speaker is indicated in nearby text<br />
==== Music ====<br />
* ...<br />
<br />
=== Video ===<br />
Publication of video on blogs often goes by "videoblogging", "vlogging", "VODcasting", or "video podcasting". The typical process involves publishing a direct link to the video file within the blog entry. The blog entry can, but does not have to, include an embedded video player. Many videos include a thumbnail jpg which is clickable to the media object and player. Some video includes links to those other source videos, photos and audio that have been quoted. Most videos have the same base elements as photos and audio, with the exception of quotes.<br />
<br />
* [http://FreeVlog.org FreeVlog]: the most popular tutorial on the web describing the videoblogging process by combining free tools and services (Blogger, OurMedia/Internet Archive, FeedBurner).<br />
** According to this process, a videoblog entry contains:<br />
*** Direct link to the video file<br />
*** Clickable thumbnail image/screen capture of the video<br />
*** Contextual information about the video (title, description, etc) is usually contained in the surrounding blog entry<br />
<br />
* [http://joshkinberg.com/popupmaker Video Pop Up Maker]<br />
** This example based on the process taught at [http://FreeVlog.org FreeVlog] generates code to create a dynamic pop up window with embedded video player. The reasons for this are enumerated [http://www.unmediated.org/archives/2005/10/easily_create_p.php here]<br />
<br />
=== Photos ===<br />
* A few photos online have region annotation and quoting. But as tools are developed that are usable for mass publishers, this will likely increase.<br />
* Many videos have thumbnails that are jpgs.<br />
* Many videos use pictures and therefore the pictures themselves are quotes from the video.<br />
* Most photos have the same elements as videos and audio, with the exception of quotes.<br />
<br />
== Next Steps ==<br />
# Add more real-world, simple, minimal examples.<br />
# Research and organize existing/previous [[media-info-formats]], with a focus on formats for publishing '''common''', '''user-visible''' media information.<br />
# Start [[media-info-brainstorming]] based on examples.<br />
<br />
== See Also ==<br />
* [[media-metadata-examples]] - previous attempt to catalog and organize top down metadata systems generated by engineers and committees, as examples of elements, and includes formats which should be in a separate page. Useful as both a source of research but this microformat needs to embrace the bottomup ways users are publishing photos, video and audio online.</div>Mary Hodderhttp://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=media-info-examples&diff=4275media-info-examples2006-01-21T07:48:09Z<p>Mary Hodder: </p>
<hr />
<div>= Media Info Examples =<br />
<br />
== Contributors ==<br />
<br />
* [http://tantek.com/log/ Tantek Çelik]<br />
* [http://joshkinberg.com/blog/ Joshua Kinberg]<br />
* [http://napsterization.org/stories/ Mary Hodder]<br />
* [http://onlisareinsradar.com/ Lisa Rein]<br />
<br />
== Introduction ==<br />
<br />
Examples of what people actually publish on the Web when discussing, linking to, referring to media. This is focused predominantly on time based media such as audio and video, but may consider aspects of static media as well such as still images.<br />
<br />
== Emphasis on Practical, Simple, and Minimal ==<br />
<br />
Since all previous known attempts at this problem area have ended up quite complex and over-designed, this attempt will place simplicity and minimalism first and foremost.<br />
<br />
Thus for now, this document is deliberately restricted to examples that are:<br />
* ''Actual'' examples in practice on the Web '''with URLs''' to the originals (note, all *-examples pages should be like this, but previous attempts at documenting media info examples have mostly ignored this requirement, and thus it is necessary to be explicit).<br />
* Representative of ''very common'' publishing behavior on the Web. This focus on common, representative examples is essential. If possible, include an estimate of the number of similar examples. E.g. ~10k.<br />
* Simple and minimalist. As simple as possible. Go read [http://microformats.org/wiki/microformats#the_microformats_principles the microformats principles] right now before proceeding any further.<br />
<br />
Any examples added which do not conform to these requirements will be deleted.<br />
<br />
Any generic analysis will also be deleted. Analysis before examples is premature. Once there are sufficient media-info-examples, and hopefully a simple/clean listing of [[media-info-formats]], we'll hopefully start a [[media-info-brainstorming]] page to do aggregate analysis of the examples.<br />
<br />
== Table of Contents ==<br />
<br />
__TOC__<br />
<br />
== Examples ==<br />
<br />
=== Audio ===<br />
==== Speech ====<br />
Publication of audio speeches on blogs is often called "podcasting". In essence though, it is simply audio speech publishing.<br />
<br />
* [http://www.microformats.org/blog/2005/09/30/web-essentials-audio/ Microformats: Web Essentials Audio]<br />
** Appears to be composed of:<br />
*** title/summary of the recording<br />
*** clickable hyperlink to the recording (MP3)<br />
** Contextual:<br />
*** (primary) speaker is indicated in nearby text<br />
==== Music ====<br />
* ...<br />
<br />
=== Video ===<br />
Publication of video on blogs often goes by "videoblogging", "vlogging", "VODcasting", or "video podcasting". The typical process involves publishing a direct link to the video file within the blog entry. The blog entry can, but does not have to, include an embedded video player.<br />
<br />
* [http://FreeVlog.org FreeVlog]: the most popular tutorial on the web describing the videoblogging process by combining free tools and services (Blogger, OurMedia/Internet Archive, FeedBurner).<br />
** According to this process, a videoblog entry contains:<br />
*** Direct link to the video file<br />
*** Clickable thumbnail image/screen capture of the video<br />
*** Contextual information about the video (title, description, etc) is usually contained in the surrounding blog entry<br />
<br />
* [http://joshkinberg.com/popupmaker Video Pop Up Maker]<br />
** This example based on the process taught at [http://FreeVlog.org FreeVlog] generates code to create a dynamic pop up window with embedded video player. The reasons for this are enumerated [http://www.unmediated.org/archives/2005/10/easily_create_p.php here]<br />
<br />
== Next Steps ==<br />
# Add more real-world, simple, minimal examples.<br />
# Research and organize existing/previous [[media-info-formats]], with a focus on formats for publishing '''common''', '''user-visible''' media information.<br />
# Start [[media-info-brainstorming]] based on examples.<br />
<br />
== See Also ==<br />
* [[media-metadata-examples]] - previous attempt which is a bit of a deep-dive mess, and includes formats which should be in a separate page. Probably useful as both a source of research and a warning of what not to become.</div>Mary Hodderhttp://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=media-info-examples&diff=4262media-info-examples2006-01-20T19:17:03Z<p>Mary Hodder: </p>
<hr />
<div>= Media Info Examples =<br />
<br />
== Contributors ==<br />
<br />
* [http://tantek.com/log/ Tantek Çelik]<br />
* [http://joshkinberg.com/blog/ Joshua Kinberg]<br />
* [http://napasterization.org/stories/ Mary Hodder]<br />
* [http://onlisareinsradar.com/ Lisa Rein]<br />
<br />
== Introduction ==<br />
<br />
Examples of what people actually publish on the Web when discussing, linking to, referring to media. This is focused predominantly on time based media such as audio and video, but may consider aspects of static media as well such as still images.<br />
<br />
== Emphasis on Practical, Simple, and Minimal ==<br />
<br />
Since all previous known attempts at this problem area have ended up quite complex and over-designed, this attempt will place simplicity and minimalism first and foremost.<br />
<br />
Thus for now, this document is deliberately restricted to examples that are:<br />
* ''Actual'' examples in practice on the Web with URLs to the originals (note, all *-examples pages should be like this, but previous attempts at documenting media info examples have mostly ignored this requirement, and thus it is necessary to be explicit).<br />
* Representative of ''very common'' publishing behavior on the Web. This focus on common, representative examples is essential. If possible, include an estimate of the number of similar examples. E.g. ~10k.<br />
* Simple and minimalist. As simple as possible. Go read [http://microformats.org/wiki/microformats#the_microformats_principles the microformats principles] right now before proceeding any further.<br />
<br />
Any examples added which do not conform to these requirements will be deleted.<br />
<br />
== Table of Contents ==<br />
<br />
__TOC__<br />
<br />
== Examples ==<br />
<br />
=== Elements and Examples Used in Media Published by Users ===<br />
<br />
* Title <br />
* Html URL<br />
* Media URL<br />
* Tags<br />
* Description and Quotes<br />
** Description or summary<br />
** Quotes: (subsets of the object: a video quote and tags/description associated with it, a region annotation note for a photo, or the quote of a podcast and tags/description -- the detail for these subsets exists in the 'more info' section below)<br />
* Creator<br />
* License (defaults to copyright, if none exists, but it's there, by US law, and many other areas of the world)<br />
<br />
and for audio and visual:<br />
* Duration<br />
<br />
=== Audio ===<br />
==== Speech ====<br />
Publication of audio speeches on blogs is often called "podcasting". In essence though, it is simply audio speech publishing.<br />
<br />
* [http://www.microformats.org/blog/2005/09/30/web-essentials-audio/ Microformats: Web Essentials Audio]<br />
** Appears to be composed of:<br />
*** title/summary of the recording<br />
*** clickable hyperlink to the recording (MP3)<br />
** Contextual:<br />
*** (primary) speaker is indicated in nearby text<br />
==== Music ====<br />
* ...<br />
<br />
=== Video ===<br />
Publication of video on blogs often goes by "videoblogging", "vlogging", "VODcasting", or "video podcasting". The typical process involves publishing a direct link to the video file within the blog entry. The blog entry can, but does not have to, include an embedded video player.<br />
<br />
* [http://FreeVlog.org FreeVlog]: the most popular tutorial on the web describing the videoblogging process by combining free tools and services (Blogger, OurMedia/Internet Archive, FeedBurner).<br />
** According to this process, a videoblog entry contains:<br />
*** Direct link to the video file<br />
*** Clickable thumbnail image/screen capture of the video<br />
*** Contextual information about the video (title, description, etc) is usually contained in the surrounding blog entry<br />
<br />
* [http://joshkinberg.com/popupmaker Video Pop Up Maker]<br />
** This example based on the process taught at [http://FreeVlog.org FreeVlog] generates code to create a dynamic pop up window with embedded video player. The reasons for this are enumerated [http://www.unmediated.org/archives/2005/10/easily_create_p.php here]<br />
<br />
== Next Steps ==<br />
# Add more real-world, simple, minimal examples.<br />
# Research and organize existing/previous [[media-info-formats]], with a focus on formats for publishing '''common''', '''user-visible''' media information.<br />
# Start [[media-info-brainstorming]] based on examples.<br />
<br />
== See Also ==<br />
* [[media-metadata-examples]] - previous attempt which is a bit of a deep-dive mess, and includes formats which should be in a separate page. Probably useful as both a source of research and a warning of what not to become.</div>Mary Hodder