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Tantek: Firefox 6 dropped support for proprietary microsummary format

2011-08-04T15:18:08Z

Firefox 6 dropped support for proprietary microsummary format

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	== Microsummary ==		== Microsummary ==
			'''Obsolete'''

	Mozilla ~~has~~ introduced a proprietary format called "microsummary", which is used in Firefox 2.0's support for bookmarks.		Mozilla introduced a proprietary format called "microsummary", which was used in Firefox 2.0-5.0's support for bookmarks.

			'''Firefox 6.0 has [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=524091 removed support for microsummary].'''

	Note:		Note:

	#that microsummaries ~~are~~ not intended simply to deliver a summary of a page; they may be used, for example, for a "deal of the day", "last updated" date or time, a new headline, or other timely and dynamic information.		#that microsummaries were not intended simply to deliver a summary of a page; they may be used, for example, for a "deal of the day", "last updated" date or time, a new headline, or other timely and dynamic information.
	#a "microformat" consisting of a <code>class="microsummary"</code> attribute would allow a piece of content (a span including a "last updated date", for example), to be extracted from a page, by software.		#a "microformat" consisting of a <code>class="microsummary"</code> attribute would allow a piece of content (a span including a "last updated date", for example), to be extracted from a page, by software.
	#if multiple tags included <code>class="microsummary"</code>, we'd need to decide whether they each represent different microsummaries or they all represent a single microsummary whose value is the concatenation of each tag's content. The former seems saner, but sometimes microsummary content is scattered around the page (f.e. an eBay auction item microsummary might contain the name of the item, the auction end date, and the current high bid, but that information appears in three separate places in the page).		#if multiple tags included <code>class="microsummary"</code>, we'd need to decide whether they each represent different microsummaries or they all represent a single microsummary whose value is the concatenation of each tag's content. The former seems saner, but sometimes microsummary content is scattered around the page (f.e. an eBay auction item microsummary might contain the name of the item, the auction end date, and the current high bid, but that information appears in three separate places in the page).

Brian: Reverted edits by ErdomLavia (Talk) to last version by ChristopheDucamp

2008-12-20T21:05:20Z

Reverted edits by ErdomLavia (Talk) to last version by ChristopheDucamp

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ErdomLavia: codelololi

2008-12-19T11:34:22Z

codelololi

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ChristopheDucamp: restitution de la dernière modification de AndyMabbett

2008-01-26T15:40:45Z

restitution de la dernière modification de AndyMabbett

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	This page describes existing formats that enable an author to publish a summary description for a page. Whether or not this is worthy of doing research (e.g. [[page-summary-examples]], [[page-summary-brainstorming]]) for a microformat is open to debate. Nonetheless, it doesn't hurt to at least have a place to document existing formats.		This page describes existing formats that enable an author to publish a summary description for a page. Whether or not this is worthy of doing research (e.g. [[page-summary-examples]], [[page-summary-brainstorming]]) for a microformat is open to debate. Nonetheless, it doesn't hurt to at least have a place to document existing formats.

MqkAib at 08:55, 25 January 2008

2008-01-25T08:55:53Z

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	This page describes existing formats that enable an author to publish a summary description for a page. Whether or not this is worthy of doing research (e.g. [[page-summary-examples]], [[page-summary-brainstorming]]) for a microformat is open to debate. Nonetheless, it doesn't hurt to at least have a place to document existing formats.		This page describes existing formats that enable an author to publish a summary description for a page. Whether or not this is worthy of doing research (e.g. [[page-summary-examples]], [[page-summary-brainstorming]]) for a microformat is open to debate. Nonetheless, it doesn't hurt to at least have a place to document existing formats.

AndyMabbett: /* Examples */ more

2006-12-16T10:40:53Z

Examples: more

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	**[http://www.westmidlandbirdclub.com/new.htm What's New]		**[http://www.westmidlandbirdclub.com/new.htm What's New]
	**[http://www.westmidlandbirdclub.com/ladywalk/latest.htm Ladywalk News]		**[http://www.westmidlandbirdclub.com/ladywalk/latest.htm Ladywalk News]
			*[http://userstyles.org/livetitle third-party generated microsummaries for a range of specific pages]

	===Issues===		===Issues===

MykMelez: added thoughts on the utility of current microsummary formats vis-a-vis title elements and feeds

2006-12-16T00:33:22Z

added thoughts on the utility of current microsummary formats vis-a-vis title elements and feeds

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	* Haven't we already solved 99% of this problem with RSS and the <code>title</code> element? [[User:Ianloic\|Ianloic]] 17:11, 10 Dec 2006 (PST)		* Haven't we already solved 99% of this problem with RSS and the <code>title</code> element? [[User:Ianloic\|Ianloic]] 17:11, 10 Dec 2006 (PST)
	** No, that's not the case. [[User:AndyMabbett\|Andy Mabbett]] 10:29, 11 Dec 2006 (PST)		** No, that's not the case. [[User:AndyMabbett\|Andy Mabbett]] 10:29, 11 Dec 2006 (PST)
			** The <code>title</code> element doesn't solve this problem, because it can only contain plaintext, whereas microsummaries are intended to ultimately contain rich content (HTML, images, etc.), and also because the <code>title</code> element lives inside the document, so web clients have to load the much larger document to get access to the much smaller summary inside it (which is fine in some cases, but not in others). [[User:MykMelez\|Myk Melez]]
			** RSS/Atom, on the other hand, would be a great delivery mechanism for microsummaries. Support for feed-based microsummaries (using profiles of RSS/Atom with heuristics to determine summaries even for web sites that don't provide a specialized summary feed) was part of the original plan for Firefox 2. After some discussion, however, we decided that it would make the most sense for Firefox's Live Bookmarks feature to handle all feed-based bookmark updates and to focus the microsummaries feature specifically on client-side and server-side generated summaries (i.e. those extracted by XSLT-based microsummary generators) as well as simple server-side content summaries. [[User:MykMelez\|Myk Melez]]
			** In retrospect, I think not supporting feed-based microsummaries was a mistake, and microsummaries should indeed extract summaries from feeds, where available. I plan to make this happen for Firefox 3. Nevertheless, I do think there's a place for the kind of simple server-side content summaries currently available in Firefox 2, despite their limitations, in some cases of authors building sites with content that is a better candidate for summarization than syndication. And there's also a place for microsummary generators, which address a problem solved by neither feeds nor server-side content summaries. [[User:MykMelez\|Myk Melez]]

JoeLaPoutre: /* Code */

2006-12-12T08:33:04Z

Code

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	===Code===		===Code===
	* [http://www.xs4all.nl/~jlpoutre/BoT/WP/microsummary/ WP-Microsummary plugin for WordPress]		* [http://www.xs4all.nl/~jlpoutre/BoT/WP/microsummary/ WP-Microsummary plugin for WordPress]
			* [http://squio.nl/blog/2006/12/04/microsummary-generator-wizard-extension/ Microsummary Generator Wizard for Firefox]

	===Examples of discussion===		===Examples of discussion===

AndyMabbett: restore answer

2006-12-11T18:29:46Z

restore answer

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	* Haven't we already solved 99% of this problem with RSS and the <code>title</code> element? [[User:Ianloic\|Ianloic]] 17:11, 10 Dec 2006 (PST)		* Haven't we already solved 99% of this problem with RSS and the <code>title</code> element? [[User:Ianloic\|Ianloic]] 17:11, 10 Dec 2006 (PST)
			** No, that's not the case. [[User:AndyMabbett\|Andy Mabbett]] 10:29, 11 Dec 2006 (PST)

Tantek: Reverted edit of AndyMabbett, changed back to last version by Ianloic

2006-12-11T17:04:30Z

Reverted edit of AndyMabbett, changed back to last version by Ianloic

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	Google search results display the value of the meta description element for a page when that page is listed in Google search results.		Google search results display the value of the meta description element for a page when that page is listed in Google search results.

	===~~Product Support~~ Issues===		===Issues===

	* '''Invisible.''' meta description is invisible metadata on the page and therefore violates microformats principles.		* '''Invisible.''' meta description is invisible metadata on the page and therefore violates microformats principles.
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	**[http://www.westmidlandbirdclub.com/ladywalk/latest.htm Ladywalk News]		**[http://www.westmidlandbirdclub.com/ladywalk/latest.htm Ladywalk News]

	===~~Microsummary~~ Issues===		===Issues===

	* '''Invisible.''' Though different from meta description in that the <code>link</code> tag is used to relate to a summary at another URL - this doesn't actually markup the summary content itself. Since the content is not necessarily visible on the page itself, an author could easily change the page content without noticing or even knowing to bother to change the referenced "summary" page/ resource (except, of course, where the microsummary is automatically generated, such as by extracting the first "H2", or the content of a div or span with a specific ID, or the last-updated date). Thus this method has all the same potential flaws of typical invisible metadata publishing, which is that overtime it may rot, become out of date, unreliable and untrustworthy in general.		* '''Invisible.''' Though different from meta description in that the <code>link</code> tag is used to relate to a summary at another URL - this doesn't actually markup the summary content itself. Since the content is not necessarily visible on the page itself, an author could easily change the page content without noticing or even knowing to bother to change the referenced "summary" page/ resource (except, of course, where the microsummary is automatically generated, such as by extracting the first "H2", or the content of a div or span with a specific ID, or the last-updated date). Thus this method has all the same potential flaws of typical invisible metadata publishing, which is that overtime it may rot, become out of date, unreliable and untrustworthy in general.
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	* Haven't we already solved 99% of this problem with RSS and the <code>title</code> element? [[User:Ianloic\|Ianloic]] 17:11, 10 Dec 2006 (PST)		* Haven't we already solved 99% of this problem with RSS and the <code>title</code> element? [[User:Ianloic\|Ianloic]] 17:11, 10 Dec 2006 (PST)
	**No. [[User:AndyMabbett\|Andy Mabbett]] 03:56, 11 Dec 2006 (PST)

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	* Haven't we already solved 99% of this problem with RSS and the <code>title</code> element? [[User:Ianloic\|Ianloic]] 17:11, 10 Dec 2006 (PST)		* Haven't we already solved 99% of this problem with RSS and the <code>title</code> element? [[User:Ianloic\|Ianloic]] 17:11, 10 Dec 2006 (PST)
	** No, that's not the case. [[User:AndyMabbett\|Andy Mabbett]] 10:29, 11 Dec 2006 (PST)		** No, that's not the case. [[User:AndyMabbett\|Andy Mabbett]] 10:29, 11 Dec 2006 (PST)
			** The <code>title</code> element doesn't solve this problem, because it can only contain plaintext, whereas microsummaries are intended to ultimately contain rich content (HTML, images, etc.), and also because the <code>title</code> element lives inside the document, so web clients have to load the much larger document to get access to the much smaller summary inside it (which is fine in some cases, but not in others). [[User:MykMelez\|Myk Melez]]
			** RSS/Atom, on the other hand, would be a great delivery mechanism for microsummaries. Support for feed-based microsummaries (using profiles of RSS/Atom with heuristics to determine summaries even for web sites that don't provide a specialized summary feed) was part of the original plan for Firefox 2. After some discussion, however, we decided that it would make the most sense for Firefox's Live Bookmarks feature to handle all feed-based bookmark updates and to focus the microsummaries feature specifically on client-side and server-side generated summaries (i.e. those extracted by XSLT-based microsummary generators) as well as simple server-side content summaries. [[User:MykMelez\|Myk Melez]]
			** In retrospect, I think not supporting feed-based microsummaries was a mistake, and microsummaries should indeed extract summaries from feeds, where available. I plan to make this happen for Firefox 3. Nevertheless, I do think there's a place for the kind of simple server-side content summaries currently available in Firefox 2, despite their limitations, in some cases of authors building sites with content that is a better candidate for summarization than syndication. And there's also a place for microsummary generators, which address a problem solved by neither feeds nor server-side content summaries. [[User:MykMelez\|Myk Melez]]