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10 meaningful words

Martin McEvoy WebOrganics 07:47, 12 May 2007 (PDT)

The Idea

To display visible Keywords similar to invisible ones that an author would place in the head of their document e.g

<meta name="keywords" content="your keywords,go here,separated by a comma,but not a space" />

I'm not putting my keywords in the head of the document but in another largely ignored part of a website the footer.

The Idea is to tag your website or blog with 10 meaningful words about your website or more precisely descriptive words about the things that relate to your website the most. A similar idea is used when you are asked to tag your blog when you add a new blog to technorati. The hope is that if you type these 10 keywords into a search engine or directory then the result will be your website.

Example this is what my website WebOrganics has in the footer:

<ol class="xoxo">
 <li>
  <dl>
   <dt>10 <a href="http://tantek.com/presentations/2005/09/elements-of-xhtml/">Meaningful</a> Words</dt>
    <dd class="info">  
<a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/" rel="tag">Semantic</a> 
<a href="http://www.molly.com/2005/11/14/web-standards-and-the-new-professionalism/" rel="tag">Standards</a>  
<a href="http://www.w3.org/WAI/gettingstarted/Overview.html" rel="tag">Accessibility</a>  
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Implementation" rel="tag">Implementation</a>  
<a href="http://microformats.org/wiki/introduction" rel="tag">Microformats</a>  
<a href="http://www.adammathes.com/academic/computer-mediated-communication/folksonomies.html" rel="tag">Folksonomy</a> 
<a href="http://www.rubyonrails.org/" rel="tag">Rails</a>   
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open-source_software" rel="tag">Open</a>  
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organic_search_engine" rel="tag">Organic</a>  
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_design" rel="tag">Universal</a>
   </dd>
  </dl>
 </li>
</ol>

I have a visible maybe new microformat meaningful in my <dt> tag my description term also a link to an article that explains this , the <a> tag's have similar links to my keywords, all the <a> atributes are paired with the rel="tag" microformat, the idea is that this is simple.

Does it work?

search these 10 keywords. Semantic Standards Accessibility Implementation Microformats Folksonomy Rails Open Organic Universal

• Yahoo

• Google

• AOL

• AltaVista

• MetaCrawler

• Dogpile

• Alexa

• All The Web

• Technorati Directory

Summary

Interesting points:

• Meaningful words mean something!... do they?
• Can people be taged in a similar way? rel="meaningful" XFN
• Maybe its just a good example of posh in action.

I know the evidence is un-conclusive but it is something to think about eh...

hCollection

hCollection 0.0.4

Martin McEvoy WebOrganics 12:05, 13 May 2007 (GMT)

Using DC CD AP Terms to describe a collection.

Collection

Terms are:

• hcollection, the root of the collection (dc:collection)
  • id attribute, is used as a physical id of a collection to be included in "parts"
  • title, the title of the collection (dc:title)
  • type, what type of collection it is. (dc:type)
  • url, a link to the collection using <a> with the class attribute "url" (dc:identifier *A URI for the collection*.)

<div class="hcollection" id="h">
        <span class="type">Album</span>: 
         <span class="title">
        <a class="url"
href="http://www.downloadpunk.com/?webaction=AlbumDetail&albumid=13202">Fifty Million People Can't Be Wrong</a>
        </span>
</div>

Another example

<div class="hcollection" id="s">
  <span class="title">
    <span class="type">
    <a class="url" href="http://Stamps.com...">Stamp Book</a>
    </span>
  </span>
</div>

Add to collection

Add a Part to our collection terms are:

• part-of, this is the root element of our collection part. (dcterms:isPartOf)
  • part-of-title, This is the collection part title
  • part-of-type, what type of part it is.
  • url, a link to the collection part with the class attribute "url".
  • Class include using the Include Pattern, links the part to a collection

<span class="part-of">
  <span class="part-of-type">Track</span> 1 
    <span class="part-of-title"><a class="url" href="http://track1...>Reason Ain't Our Long Suit</a>
      <a class="include" href="#h"></a>
      </span>
  </span>

Another Example: Minimal

<div class="part-of">
  <span class="part-of-title">Penny Black</span> 
  <span class"part-of-type">Stamp</span>
  <a class="include" href="#s"></a>
</div>

Summary

hCollection seems to me very verbose I think that this may all be done by using just hcollection and part-of it would be much simpler to use, and easier to adopt.

this may be better to use:

<div class="hcollection" id="s">Stamp Book</div>

and,

<a class="incldue part-of" href="s">A stamp</a>

does this work?...

Issues

• title is a common part of many Microformats, title may not be necessary.
• url is also a common part of many Microformats, url may not be necessary.
• class include has issues see here - Include pattern feedback

See also

• Collection Description
• Grouping Examples

Contact or get involved

Martin McEvoy

WebOrganics.

• http://weborganics.co.uk/
  • Email: info@weborganics.co.uk

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