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Per the microformats [[process]], this is a page for researching and brainstorming a [[rel]] value for linking to a previous [[version]] of a page. | Per the microformats [[process]], this is a page for researching and brainstorming a [[rel]] value for linking to a previous [[version]] of a page. | ||
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* rel=version | * rel=version | ||
** +1 [[User:Tantek|Tantek]] : this feels like the most human-author-friendly term of these. | ** +1 [[User:Tantek|Tantek]] : this feels like the most human-author-friendly term of these. | ||
** -1 [[User:BigBlueHat|BigBlueHat]] : lacks directionality; fine for the "this thing is a version case...maybe" | |||
* rel=revision | * rel=revision | ||
** Mediawiki uses the term "revision" in the UI when you're viewing a previous version of a page. | ** Mediawiki uses the term "revision" in the UI when you're viewing a previous version of a page. | ||
** "revision" has a developer feel to it, common terminology in revision control systems (naturally) like git etc. | ** "revision" has a developer feel to it, common terminology in revision control systems (naturally) like git etc. | ||
** -1 [[User:BigBlueHat|BigBlueHat]] : same issue as above; also revision !== version | |||
* rel=older | * rel=older | ||
** -1 [[User:Tantek|Tantek]]: "older" feels wrong as a noun. | ** -1 [[User:Tantek|Tantek]]: "older" feels wrong as a noun. | ||
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* rel=latest | * rel=latest | ||
** might mean a specific link to the latest version, though W3C specs use the phrase "Latest Version" to label the link to the always current URL - [[User:Tantek|Tantek]] | ** might mean a specific link to the latest version, though W3C specs use the phrase "Latest Version" to label the link to the always current URL - [[User:Tantek|Tantek]] | ||
* rel=latest-version | |||
** from [https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5829#page-2|RFC 5829] | |||
* rel=predecessor-version | |||
** from [https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5829#page-2|RFC 5829] | |||
* rel=successor-version | |||
** from [https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5829#page-2|RFC 5829] | |||
* ... | * ... | ||
==== history ==== | ==== history ==== | ||
MediaWiki pages don't link directly to previous versions, rather they link to a "History" page which then links to previous versions. | MediaWiki pages don't link directly to previous versions, rather they link to a "History" page which then links to previous versions. | ||
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We can at least consider brainstorming a link rel to that history page accordingly: | We can at least consider brainstorming a link rel to that history page accordingly: | ||
* rel=history - on a link from a page to a document that lists history of that page, perhaps linking to previous versions. | * rel=history - on a link from a page to a document that lists history of that page, perhaps linking to previous versions. | ||
* rel=version-history | |||
** from [https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5829#page-2|RFC 5829] | |||
Is there any meaningful way to markup (rel value) links from a history page to the page itself or from a history page to previous versions of the page? | Is there any meaningful way to markup (rel value) links from a history page to the page itself or from a history page to previous versions of the page? | ||
== related work == | == related work == | ||
=== canonical === | |||
You can already use: | You can already use: | ||
* [[rel-canonical]] to link to the canonical version of a page. But this doesn't mean it's a different version, if anything, it may be the exact same content just at a shorter or more reliable/official URL. | * [[rel-canonical]] to link to the canonical version of a page. But this doesn't mean it's a different version, if anything, it may be the exact same content just at a shorter or more reliable/official URL. | ||
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[[rel-prev|rel=prev]] (and [[rel-next|next]]) are for sequential navigation/pagination, not historical revisions. | [[rel-prev|rel=prev]] (and [[rel-next|next]]) are for sequential navigation/pagination, not historical revisions. | ||
Sequential navigation/pagination and historical versions are totally different, both in how the content works, and in usage. | |||
In pagination, each of the pages has ''different content'' and is a sequence like a list, or a series of chapters. | |||
In historical revisions, each page (typically) has mostly the ''same content'' with just a few changes/differences between versions. | |||
Pagination is often used as an alternative to delivering the content as a whole, e.g. news articles. Whereas you never see previous historical versions all appended together as if that's "the whole thing". | Pagination is often used as an alternative to delivering the content as a whole, e.g. news articles. Whereas you never see previous historical versions all appended together as if that's "the whole thing". | ||
Latest revision as of 16:34, 18 July 2020
Per the microformats process, this is a page for researching and brainstorming a rel value for linking to a previous version of a page.
use case
To be able to discover previous versions of a document automatically from a document.
examples
- W3C. Nearly every W3C specification has a link in the header to the "Previous Version".
- ...
formats
revision control systems
Revision control systems (RCS) like:
- CVS
- SVN
- mercurial (hg)
- git
All have ways of representing previous versions of a document.
brainstorming
Several rel values are being considered for linking from a document to a previous version of that document.
- rel=version
- +1 Tantek : this feels like the most human-author-friendly term of these.
- -1 BigBlueHat : lacks directionality; fine for the "this thing is a version case...maybe"
- rel=revision
- Mediawiki uses the term "revision" in the UI when you're viewing a previous version of a page.
- "revision" has a developer feel to it, common terminology in revision control systems (naturally) like git etc.
- -1 BigBlueHat : same issue as above; also revision !== version
- rel=older
- -1 Tantek: "older" feels wrong as a noun.
- ...
current
A related use case is to be able to find the current version of document when looking at an older version. For this, the following rel values are being considered:
- rel=current
- seems like a link to something that is always current, not that it happens to be current right now. - Tantek
- rel=latest
- might mean a specific link to the latest version, though W3C specs use the phrase "Latest Version" to label the link to the always current URL - Tantek
- rel=latest-version
- from 5829
- rel=predecessor-version
- from 5829
- rel=successor-version
- from 5829
- ...
history
MediaWiki pages don't link directly to previous versions, rather they link to a "History" page which then links to previous versions.
We can at least consider brainstorming a link rel to that history page accordingly:
- rel=history - on a link from a page to a document that lists history of that page, perhaps linking to previous versions.
- rel=version-history
- from 5829
Is there any meaningful way to markup (rel value) links from a history page to the page itself or from a history page to previous versions of the page?
canonical
You can already use:
- rel-canonical to link to the canonical version of a page. But this doesn't mean it's a different version, if anything, it may be the exact same content just at a shorter or more reliable/official URL.
FAQ
what about rel prev
What about rel="prev" (or "previous")?
rel=prev (and next) are for sequential navigation/pagination, not historical revisions.
Sequential navigation/pagination and historical versions are totally different, both in how the content works, and in usage.
In pagination, each of the pages has different content and is a sequence like a list, or a series of chapters.
In historical revisions, each page (typically) has mostly the same content with just a few changes/differences between versions.
Pagination is often used as an alternative to delivering the content as a whole, e.g. news articles. Whereas you never see previous historical versions all appended together as if that's "the whole thing".