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{{DISPLAYTITLE:#microformats chat}} | |||
Join the microformats chat room to ask questions you have about microformats, learn how to contribute to the community, and to meet other people who are interested in microformats. | |||
Formally hosted on IRC exclusively, the microformats chat is now available on: | |||
* [https://discord.com/channels/866577279223595018/866659994903379968 Discord] | |||
* [https://chat.indieweb.org/slack Slack] | |||
* [https://app.element.io/#/room/#microformats:libera.chat Matrix] | |||
* [ircs://irc.libera.chat:6697/microformats IRC] (hosted on libera.chat) | |||
All of our chat rooms are bridged which means a message you send will be received by people who use any supported platform. Our chat rooms are all called #microformats. | |||
All people who are working with, or are curious about, microformats are welcome to join the community. | |||
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;shortURL | |||
:http://ufs.cc/w/irc | |||
To display a brief description of who you are each time you join the channel, you can create a definition for your username. To do so pass the <tt>?def</tt> command using something like the following convention (be brief): | == Quick Start == | ||
You may use a IRC client application such as [http://colloquy.info/ Colloquy] (Mac or iOS) or [https://market.android.com/details?id=org.yaaic&feature=search_result Yaaic on Android] to join: | |||
* irc://irc.libera.chat/microformats | |||
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Alternatively you may use a browser to quickly join and chat: | |||
* http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=microformats&nick=uf-wiki-visitor | |||
--> | |||
<!--* Firefox users: install [https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/chatzilla/ Chatzilla] IRC plugin. | |||
As of 2020-12-15 this plugin no longer exists: "If you’ve followed a link from another site for an extension or theme, that item is no longer available." --> | |||
<!--* http://leafychat.com/#microformats@irc.freenode.net | |||
** (Leafy Chat redirects to Convore and doesn't appear to connect as of 2011-07-06)--> | |||
The microformats IRC channel is hosted on the libera.chat server. See [[irc#Joining_a_server_and_channel|Joining a server and channel]] help for further information and use of client applications which provide additional services (authenticated nicknames, logging, etc.). | |||
== Logs == | |||
Recent logs of the #microformats IRC channel can be found at: | |||
* https://chat.indieweb.org/microformats | |||
<!-- | |||
* [http://krijnhoetmer.nl/irc-logs/microformats krijnhoetmer microformats IRC Logs] | |||
If the krijnhoetmer logs have stopped logging or have any other problems: | |||
# try this in the IRC channel: <br/><kbd>/invite krijnh #microformats</kbd><br/> if you see <br/><samp>krijnh joined the chat room.</samp><br/> then the krijnhoetmer logs should start working again. if you don't see that, then: | |||
# go http://krijnhoetmer.nl/#contact | |||
# leave a message in the Contact box in the right column for Krijn, e.g. <blockquote><p>"looks like the logs at http://krijnhoetmer.nl/irc-logs/microformats have stopped working, could you take a look?"</p></blockquote> | |||
# Krijn is fairly responsive, expect that logging will resume shortly. | |||
--> | |||
Older logs can be found at the following locations for the following periods: | |||
* [https://chat.indieweb.org/microformats/2011-02-12 2011-02-12]–[https://chat.indieweb.org/microformats current] at https://chat.indieweb.org/microformats (switched from Freenode to Libera.Chat on [https://chat.indieweb.org/microformats/2021-05-26 2021-05-26]) | |||
---- | |||
* [http://logbot.glob.com.au/?c=freenode%23microformats&s=20090220&e=20090220 2009-02-20]–[https://freenode.logbot.info/microformats 2021-05-26] at [https://freenode.logbot.info/microformats freenode.logbot.info microformats IRC Logs] (continued to log Freenode even after 2021-05-26, then [https://freenode.logbot.info/_shutdown stopped] on [https://freenode.logbot.info/microformats/20210614 2021-06-14]) | |||
* [http://krijnhoetmer.nl/irc-logs/microformats/20131028 2013-10-28] (partial) - [https://krijnhoetmer.nl/irc-logs/microformats/20160129 2016-01-29] (partial) at [http://krijnhoetmer.nl/irc-logs/microformats krijnhoetmer microformats IRC Logs] | |||
* [http://krijnhoetmer.nl/irc-logs/microformats/20130811 2013-08-11] (partial) - [http://krijnhoetmer.nl/irc-logs/microformats/20130917 2013-09-17] (partial) at [http://krijnhoetmer.nl/irc-logs/microformats krijnhoetmer microformats IRC Logs] | |||
* [http://krijnhoetmer.nl/irc-logs/microformats/20120726 2012-10-09] (partial) - [http://krijnhoetmer.nl/irc-logs/microformats/20130807 2013-08-07] at [http://krijnhoetmer.nl/irc-logs/microformats krijnhoetmer microformats IRC Logs] | |||
* [http://krijnhoetmer.nl/irc-logs/microformats/20120726 2012-07-26] - [http://krijnhoetmer.nl/irc-logs/microformats/20120916 2012-09-16] (partial) at [http://krijnhoetmer.nl/irc-logs/microformats krijnhoetmer microformats IRC Logs] | |||
* [http://krijnhoetmer.nl/irc-logs/microformats/20090220 2009-02-20] - [http://krijnhoetmer.nl/irc-logs/microformats/20120621 2012-06-21] (partial) at [http://krijnhoetmer.nl/irc-logs/microformats krijnhoetmer microformats IRC Logs] | |||
* [http://rbach.priv.at/Microformats/IRC/2011-04-05 2011-04-05] at [http://rbach.priv.at/Microformats-IRC/ rbach microformats IRC Logs] | |||
* [http://rbach.priv.at/Microformats/IRC/2011-02-24 2011-02-24] - [http://rbach.priv.at/Microformats/IRC/2011-03-03 2011-03-03] at [http://rbach.priv.at/Microformats-IRC/ rbach microformats IRC Logs] | |||
* [http://rbach.priv.at/Microformats/IRC/2009-08-28 2009-08-28] - [http://rbach.priv.at/Microformats/IRC/2010-09-27 2010-09-27] at [http://rbach.priv.at/Microformats-IRC/ rbach microformats IRC Logs] | |||
* [http://rbach.priv.at/Microformats/IRC/2009-03-26 2009-03-26] - [http://rbach.priv.at/Microformats/IRC/2009-06-29 2009-06-29] at [http://rbach.priv.at/Microformats-IRC/ rbach microformats IRC Logs] | |||
* 2009-02-09 - 2009-02-20 '''missing'''. if anyone has any logs for this time period, please upload them and add links here. | |||
* [http://rbach.priv.at/Microformats/IRC/2009-01-14 2009-01-14] - [http://rbach.priv.at/Microformats/IRC/2009-02-09 2009-02-09] at [http://rbach.priv.at/Microformats-IRC/ rbach microformats IRC Logs] | |||
* [http://krijnhoetmer.nl/irc-logs/microformats/20080825 2008-08-25] - [http://krijnhoetmer.nl/irc-logs/microformats/20090114 2009-01-14] at [http://krijnhoetmer.nl/irc-logs/microformats krijnhoetmer microformats IRC Logs] | |||
* 2008-08-16 - 2008-08-24 '''missing'''. if anyone has any logs for this time period, please upload them and add links here. | |||
* [http://rbach.priv.at/Microformats/IRC/2005-11-16 2005-11-16] - [http://rbach.priv.at/Microformats/IRC/2008-08-16 2008-08-16] at [http://rbach.priv.at/Microformats-IRC/ rbach microformats IRC Logs] | |||
Until sometime on 2007-07-16, there was an [http://microformat.makedatamakesense.com/log_feed/ atom feed] provided for the [http://rbach.priv.at/Microformats-IRC/ rbach IRC Logs]. | |||
=== logs status === | |||
* [http://logbot.glob.com.au/?c=freenode%23microformats logbot.glob.com.au microformats IRC Logs] are current and live | |||
* [http://krijnhoetmer.nl/irc-logs/microformats krijnhoetmer microformats IRC Logs] appears to have stopped logging as of 2016-01. | |||
** I emailed and heard back from Krijn on 2016-03-19 "Yeah, sorry, I know, server resources are very low for that (old) machine. I think it's sort of EOL.." [http://logs.glob.uno/?c=freenode%23microformats&s=21+Mar+2016&e=21+Mar+2016&h=Krijn#c86411] -- gRegor | |||
* [http://rbach.priv.at/Microformats-IRC/ rbach IRC Logs] appear to have stopped logging as of 2009-06-29. | |||
== People on IRC == | |||
See our [[irc-people|list of IRC regulars]] and their normal timezones. | |||
Our channel has regular admins, who are also mailing list and wiki admins. If you want to get their attention, just say "adminhelp". | |||
==Bots on IRC== | |||
The IRC channel uses these bots: | |||
* [[Loqi]] - logs IRC, posts notifications to IRC of wiki edits | |||
** If Loqi is missing, see https://indieweb.org/Loqi for instructions | |||
** If Wiki edits are missing, ask an admin for "adminhelp", and reference [[admin-how-to#irc]] | |||
=== Previous Bots === | |||
These bots were active ~2005-2009? (actual dates can likely be confirmed by checking old IRC logs) | |||
* [[mfbot]] - logs all edits to this wiki. (Contact: [[User:RyanKing|Ryan King]]) | |||
* [[mflogbot]] - logs the irc channel itself to archives on the web. (Contact: [[User:RobertBachmann|Robert Bachmann]]) | |||
* [http://joiwiki.ito.com/joiwiki/index.cgi?jibot jibot] | |||
==== Greeting Bot ==== | |||
To display a brief description of who you are each time you join the channel, you can use “JiBot” to create a definition for your username. To do so pass the <tt>?def</tt> command using something like the following convention (be brief): | |||
<code>?def jdoe is John Doe and can be found online at <nowiki>http://www.example.com</nowiki></code> | <code>?def jdoe is John Doe and can be found online at <nowiki>http://www.example.com</nowiki></code> | ||
Line 78: | Line 98: | ||
More information about using JiBot commands can be found on the [http://joiwiki.ito.com/joiwiki/index.cgi?jibot jibot website] | More information about using JiBot commands can be found on the [http://joiwiki.ito.com/joiwiki/index.cgi?jibot jibot website] | ||
=== | == Getting started with IRC == | ||
'''Please note:''' These directions relate specifically to the services that [http://libera.chat/ Libera.chat] offers. Other IRC servers may differ with the services they offer and how to operate them. You can also read a complete guide at https://libera.chat/guides | |||
===Joining a server and channel=== | |||
Most clients will offer you a connection dialogue showing the required fields for connection. The details to connect to the server are: | |||
*Server: <code>irc.libera.chat</code> | |||
*Port: <code>6667</code> (usually default) | |||
You should also fill in any fields to set your alias, real name and email address. If available, save these settings for later to speed up connecting in future. | |||
More on setting a password protected alias can be [[irc#Creating_a_registered_nickname|read here]]. | |||
Once connected, you will most likely be presented with the "MOTD" (message of the day). For the first visit, it is advisable to read this to find out about the server's policies and other important pieces of news and help, otherwise it can be ignored and you can either [[irc#Creating_a_registered_nickname|authenticate your alias]] or join a channel. | |||
Your client may display to you a listing of all available channels. Locate <code>#microformats</code> and select to join, or type <code>'''/join #microformats'''</code> into the command line available to you in your client (where you've just been shown your connection). | |||
Assuming you've connected correctly, you should now find youself in the microformats channel! | |||
More detailed, but general, advice can be [http://www.irchelp.org/irchelp/irctutorial.html#intro read here]. | |||
===Creating a registered nickname=== | |||
Registration means that a password becomes associated with your alias/nickname/sign-in name and from the point of registration authorisation is required to communicate using that alias. | |||
Registration of a nickname is required for some channels, and should be done to protect your identity. | |||
To register with [https://libera.chat Libera.chat], you must communicate with their service known as NickServ. The two basic command you will need to get started are: | |||
For registration: <code>/msg nickserv register ''password'' ''email''</code> | |||
With <code>''password''</code> being a value of your choice. You must also associate an email address with your nickname | |||
Your client may offer you an option to set your alias and password, so that you will not have to manually enter this information on each join. Refer to your client's help files for more on this. | |||
These commands can be typed directly into the server window upon join, or whilst in a channel, just as you would normally send a message. | |||
More detailed user registration command information can be found in [https://libera.chat/guides/registration Libera's guides] | |||
===Communicating=== | |||
Sending a message to a channel may be as simple as joining the channel and typing into the window, just as you would with an Instant Messenger. You can refer to your client's help files for quicker/alternative methods of doing the following. For all clients the following commands are available (the parts in bold must be used, but are not seen by others): | |||
'''Sending a message to the entire channel you are currently in:''' | |||
* [[ | Command: <kbd>'''/msg''' Hello world!</kbd> | ||
* [[ | |||
* [http:// | Result: <samp><Bill> Hello world!</samp> | ||
'''Sending an action/emotive/3rd person statement:''' | |||
Command: <kbd>'''/me''' dances a code jig</kbd> | |||
Result: <samp>Bill dances a code jig</samp> | |||
'''Sending a message to one person only (private chat):''' | |||
Command: <kbd>'''/msg Bob''' Hi, would you like to code jig?</kbd> | |||
Result (for Bob only): <samp><Bill> Hi, would you like to code jig?</samp> | |||
==Clients== | |||
The following clients are recommended by #microformats participants: | |||
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=== Web === | |||
* [http://leafychat.com/#microformats@irc.freenode.net Leafy Chat] | |||
--> | |||
===Windows=== | |||
* [http://www.mirc.com/ mIRC] — Popular Windows client. Trial version only. | |||
* [http://xchat.org/ X-Chat] — Popular cross-platform client. [http://www.silverex.org/download/ Free Windows version] available. | |||
* [http://www.adiirc.com/ AdiIRC] — Simple C# based IRC client. | |||
* [http://www.miranda-im.org/ Miranda] — Lightweight, muti-protocol instant messenger. | |||
=== Mac === | |||
* [http://colloquy.info Colloquy] — open source, free | |||
* [http://homepage.mac.com/philrobin/conversation/ Conversation] | |||
* [http://sourceforge.net/projects/fire Fire] — open source, free | |||
* [http://www.conceitedsoftware.com/products/linkinus Linkinus] | |||
* [http://www.chipersoft.com/minerva/ Minerva] | |||
* [http://www.snak.com/ Snak] | |||
* [http://xchataqua.sourceforge.net/twiki/bin/view/Main/WebHome X-Chat Aqua] | |||
** now has [http://www.portableapps.org PortableApps] version — [http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/21685/portable-x-chat-aqua MacUpdate link] | |||
* [http://www.aquaticx.com/ Xirc] | |||
== | ===Cross-platform=== | ||
* [http://pidgin.im/ Pidgin] — Popular open-source multi-protocol windows client, using libpurple | |||
* [http://irssi.org/ Irssi] — Unix client, often run from a shell, sometimes [http://f0rked.com/articles/irssi in conjunction with 'screen']. | |||
* [http://jirc.hick.org/jirc/ jIRCii] | |||
== meetups == | |||
The idea of having IRC meetups (a set time for a meeting on IRC) has been suggested by [[User:RyanKing|Ryan King]], as it appears to work well for the WordPress community and may help us from time-to-time. As of yet, there are no plans to have meetups. | |||
==IRC and microformats== | |||
=== hCard === | |||
<div class="discussion"> | |||
* ''How do we maintain info about ircing in our hCards (nick, network, fav-channels?)?'' | |||
** presumably this would be done with a URL. - [[User:Tantek|Tantek]] 18:42, 30 July 2009 (UTC) | |||
</div> | |||
== | == Related discussions == | ||
* [[chat]] [[chat-examples|chat examples]], [[chat-formats|chat formats]], and [[chat-brainstorming|chat brainstorming]] | |||
==See also== | |||
*[[irc-meetups]] | |||
*[[discuss|Other discussion fora]] |
Latest revision as of 08:49, 29 January 2022
Join the microformats chat room to ask questions you have about microformats, learn how to contribute to the community, and to meet other people who are interested in microformats.
Formally hosted on IRC exclusively, the microformats chat is now available on:
All of our chat rooms are bridged which means a message you send will be received by people who use any supported platform. Our chat rooms are all called #microformats.
All people who are working with, or are curious about, microformats are welcome to join the community.
- shortURL
- http://ufs.cc/w/irc
Quick Start
You may use a IRC client application such as Colloquy (Mac or iOS) or Yaaic on Android to join:
The microformats IRC channel is hosted on the libera.chat server. See Joining a server and channel help for further information and use of client applications which provide additional services (authenticated nicknames, logging, etc.).
Logs
Recent logs of the #microformats IRC channel can be found at:
Older logs can be found at the following locations for the following periods:
- 2011-02-12–current at https://chat.indieweb.org/microformats (switched from Freenode to Libera.Chat on 2021-05-26)
- 2009-02-20–2021-05-26 at freenode.logbot.info microformats IRC Logs (continued to log Freenode even after 2021-05-26, then stopped on 2021-06-14)
- 2013-10-28 (partial) - 2016-01-29 (partial) at krijnhoetmer microformats IRC Logs
- 2013-08-11 (partial) - 2013-09-17 (partial) at krijnhoetmer microformats IRC Logs
- 2012-10-09 (partial) - 2013-08-07 at krijnhoetmer microformats IRC Logs
- 2012-07-26 - 2012-09-16 (partial) at krijnhoetmer microformats IRC Logs
- 2009-02-20 - 2012-06-21 (partial) at krijnhoetmer microformats IRC Logs
- 2011-04-05 at rbach microformats IRC Logs
- 2011-02-24 - 2011-03-03 at rbach microformats IRC Logs
- 2009-08-28 - 2010-09-27 at rbach microformats IRC Logs
- 2009-03-26 - 2009-06-29 at rbach microformats IRC Logs
- 2009-02-09 - 2009-02-20 missing. if anyone has any logs for this time period, please upload them and add links here.
- 2009-01-14 - 2009-02-09 at rbach microformats IRC Logs
- 2008-08-25 - 2009-01-14 at krijnhoetmer microformats IRC Logs
- 2008-08-16 - 2008-08-24 missing. if anyone has any logs for this time period, please upload them and add links here.
- 2005-11-16 - 2008-08-16 at rbach microformats IRC Logs
Until sometime on 2007-07-16, there was an atom feed provided for the rbach IRC Logs.
logs status
- logbot.glob.com.au microformats IRC Logs are current and live
- krijnhoetmer microformats IRC Logs appears to have stopped logging as of 2016-01.
- I emailed and heard back from Krijn on 2016-03-19 "Yeah, sorry, I know, server resources are very low for that (old) machine. I think it's sort of EOL.." [1] -- gRegor
- rbach IRC Logs appear to have stopped logging as of 2009-06-29.
People on IRC
See our list of IRC regulars and their normal timezones.
Our channel has regular admins, who are also mailing list and wiki admins. If you want to get their attention, just say "adminhelp".
Bots on IRC
The IRC channel uses these bots:
- Loqi - logs IRC, posts notifications to IRC of wiki edits
- If Loqi is missing, see https://indieweb.org/Loqi for instructions
- If Wiki edits are missing, ask an admin for "adminhelp", and reference admin-how-to#irc
Previous Bots
These bots were active ~2005-2009? (actual dates can likely be confirmed by checking old IRC logs)
- mfbot - logs all edits to this wiki. (Contact: Ryan King)
- mflogbot - logs the irc channel itself to archives on the web. (Contact: Robert Bachmann)
- jibot
Greeting Bot
To display a brief description of who you are each time you join the channel, you can use “JiBot” to create a definition for your username. To do so pass the ?def command using something like the following convention (be brief):
?def jdoe is John Doe and can be found online at http://www.example.com
More information about using JiBot commands can be found on the jibot website
Getting started with IRC
Please note: These directions relate specifically to the services that Libera.chat offers. Other IRC servers may differ with the services they offer and how to operate them. You can also read a complete guide at https://libera.chat/guides
Joining a server and channel
Most clients will offer you a connection dialogue showing the required fields for connection. The details to connect to the server are:
- Server:
irc.libera.chat
- Port:
6667
(usually default)
You should also fill in any fields to set your alias, real name and email address. If available, save these settings for later to speed up connecting in future.
More on setting a password protected alias can be read here.
Once connected, you will most likely be presented with the "MOTD" (message of the day). For the first visit, it is advisable to read this to find out about the server's policies and other important pieces of news and help, otherwise it can be ignored and you can either authenticate your alias or join a channel.
Your client may display to you a listing of all available channels. Locate #microformats
and select to join, or type /join #microformats
into the command line available to you in your client (where you've just been shown your connection).
Assuming you've connected correctly, you should now find youself in the microformats channel!
More detailed, but general, advice can be read here.
Creating a registered nickname
Registration means that a password becomes associated with your alias/nickname/sign-in name and from the point of registration authorisation is required to communicate using that alias.
Registration of a nickname is required for some channels, and should be done to protect your identity.
To register with Libera.chat, you must communicate with their service known as NickServ. The two basic command you will need to get started are:
For registration: /msg nickserv register password email
With password
being a value of your choice. You must also associate an email address with your nickname
Your client may offer you an option to set your alias and password, so that you will not have to manually enter this information on each join. Refer to your client's help files for more on this.
These commands can be typed directly into the server window upon join, or whilst in a channel, just as you would normally send a message.
More detailed user registration command information can be found in Libera's guides
Communicating
Sending a message to a channel may be as simple as joining the channel and typing into the window, just as you would with an Instant Messenger. You can refer to your client's help files for quicker/alternative methods of doing the following. For all clients the following commands are available (the parts in bold must be used, but are not seen by others):
Sending a message to the entire channel you are currently in:
Command: /msg Hello world!
Result: <Bill> Hello world!
Sending an action/emotive/3rd person statement:
Command: /me dances a code jig
Result: Bill dances a code jig
Sending a message to one person only (private chat):
Command: /msg Bob Hi, would you like to code jig?
Result (for Bob only): <Bill> Hi, would you like to code jig?
Clients
The following clients are recommended by #microformats participants:
Windows
- mIRC — Popular Windows client. Trial version only.
- X-Chat — Popular cross-platform client. Free Windows version available.
- AdiIRC — Simple C# based IRC client.
- Miranda — Lightweight, muti-protocol instant messenger.
Mac
- Colloquy — open source, free
- Conversation
- Fire — open source, free
- Linkinus
- Minerva
- Snak
- X-Chat Aqua
- now has PortableApps version — MacUpdate link
- Xirc
Cross-platform
- Pidgin — Popular open-source multi-protocol windows client, using libpurple
- Irssi — Unix client, often run from a shell, sometimes in conjunction with 'screen'.
- jIRCii
meetups
The idea of having IRC meetups (a set time for a meeting on IRC) has been suggested by Ryan King, as it appears to work well for the WordPress community and may help us from time-to-time. As of yet, there are no plans to have meetups.
IRC and microformats
hCard
- How do we maintain info about ircing in our hCards (nick, network, fav-channels?)?
- presumably this would be done with a URL. - Tantek 18:42, 30 July 2009 (UTC)