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<h1> Advocacy </h1>
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<entry-title> Advocacy </entry-title>
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A lot can be done to help advocate the use of microformats. Often, simply by taking an existing site, and adding the suggested microformatting to a few of its pages as examples is all that is necessary to help the developers of the site add the microformats to the site itself. Applications, such as browsers, could also use some guidance on how to best support microformats.
A lot can be done to help advocate the use of microformats. Often, simply by taking an existing site, and adding the suggested microformatting to a few of its pages as examples is all that is necessary to help the developers of the site add the microformats to the site itself. Applications, such as browsers, could also use some guidance on how to best support microformats.
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The goal for this page is to include pointers for how to advocate microformats on new sites and on existing sites that are considering or using alternative approaches, as well as applications that can benefit from supporting microformats.
The goal for this page is to include pointers for how to advocate microformats on new sites and on existing sites that are considering or using alternative approaches, as well as applications that can benefit from supporting microformats.
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When contacting potential microformat users, you may wish to refer to [[notable-users|some notable users]].
 
For general resources for marketing microformats, see [[spread-microformats]].
For general resources for marketing microformats, see [[spread-microformats]].
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== Adding Microformats to Existing Sites ==
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== Adding microformats to Existing Sites ==
Add sites here that you think would benefit from the addition of microformats. For now they are grouped by the microformat which would primarily benefit the site. Feel free to take a look at some of the sites on this list, document sample pages to be microformatted, add microformats to them, and then add the before/after of the key sections of mark-up to another wiki page for that site.
Add sites here that you think would benefit from the addition of microformats. For now they are grouped by the microformat which would primarily benefit the site. Feel free to take a look at some of the sites on this list, document sample pages to be microformatted, add microformats to them, and then add the before/after of the key sections of mark-up to another wiki page for that site.
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If your successes resulted from emails that you sent to site owners/developers, please consider sharing your successful advocacy emails on the [[advocacy-email-samples]] page, and along with each email sample, list the sites which responded positively to your email.  This way others in the community can learn from your success and hopefully use your email samples to contact additional sites and get them to adopt microformats.
If your successes resulted from emails that you sent to site owners/developers, please consider sharing your successful advocacy emails on the [[advocacy-email-samples]] page, and along with each email sample, list the sites which responded positively to your email.  This way others in the community can learn from your success and hopefully use your email samples to contact additional sites and get them to adopt microformats.
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===hCard===
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=== organization ===
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For now this section is organized primarily by microformat, as that's easier for the community to document and keep track of.
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;See [[hcard-advocacy]]
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However, it may be more useful to publishers if we created another section organized by type of site.
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===hCalendar===
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* [[education]] - how to add microformats to education sites, especially higher education sites.
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* [[social networks]] - how to add microformats to social networks, especially for [[social-network-portability]].
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[[hcalendar|hCalendar]] could be used on these sites:
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==== W3C track at WWW2006 ====
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* DanC offers a 150 point bounty to anybody who takes [http://www.w3.org/2006/05/w3c-track the W3C track at WWW2006] and adds hCalendar markup and sends it to connolly@w3.org,www-archive@w3.org  <!-- can this be deleted? Or replaced with something more current? -->
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** DanC, did this happen? Could you renew your bounty for WWW2007? [[User:Tantek|Tantek]] 10:34, 3 Sep 2007 (PDT)
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* <span id="hCard">[[hcard-advocacy]]</span>
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** <span id="Geo">[[geo-advocacy]]</span>
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** <span id="Adr">[[adr-advocacy]]</span>
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* <span id="hCalendar"> [[hcalendar-advocacy]]</span>
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* <span id="hReview">[[hreview-advocacy]]</span>
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* <span id="hAtom">[[hatom-advocacy]]</span>
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* <span id="rel-tag">[[rel-tag-advocacy]]</span>
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* <span id="VoteLinks">[[vote-links-advocacy]]</span>
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* <span id="XFN">[[xfn-advocacy]]</span>
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====Television listings====
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*A major coup would be to get one of the major players (the BBC, Sky, or PBS, say), to mark up their TV or radio listings with hCalendar - does anyone have contacts in such an organisation? [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]] 10:53, 21 Oct 2006 (PDT)
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* '''pump.io''' - add h-entry + h-card support to pump.io's web view:
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**Does anyone have URLs to the TV or radio listings of the major players? Getting those URLs would be the next step, and then doing the markup ourselves would be the next step after that. [[User:Tantek|Tantek]] 13:02, 21 Oct 2006 (PDT)
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** https://github.com/e14n/pump.io
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== browsers ==
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*[http://www.tvtimes.co.uk/ TV Times] (UK)
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[[Browser]] support of microformats, both built-in, and via plug-ins and extension helps users make better use of the numerous existing sites that have microformats support, as well as encourage sites and site developers to add microformats support.
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** Requested by e-mail 2006-11-13 [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]
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*BBC main listings (e.g. [http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcone/listings/index.shtml?service_id=4223 BBC One])
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** Requested by [http://www.bbc.co.uk/feedback/bbci_comment.shtml BBC Feedback Form] 2006-11-13 [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]
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** [http://microformats.org/discuss/mail/microformats-discuss/2007-January/008129.html "We're currently looking at using the event microformat on the redesigned radio 4 schedule page (and possibly throughout bbc.co.uk/radio4"] 2007-01-14 per email.
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* MTV Europe
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**Requested at [[User talk:AndySmith]], 2007-06-11. [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]] 07:59, 11 Jun 2007 (PDT)
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====Government hCalendar====
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=====UK Gov. hCalendar=====
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*[http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/ E-petitions] (in draft, and asking for suggested improvements}
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** Requested by e-mail, 2006-12-01 [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]] 11:47, 1 Dec 2006 (PST)
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*** reply: "I've added it to our list of ideas." 2006-12-04 [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]] 11:07, 4 Dec 2006 (PST)
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*[http://www.scotland.gov.uk/Publications/2005/01/bankholidays Scottish Executive Bank Holidays]
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** Requested by [http://www.scotland.gov.uk/About/HaveYourSay/WebsiteFdbck Scottish Executive feedback form], 2006-11-13 [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]
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====Sports Fixtures====
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== publishing tools ==
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Getting publishing tools adopt microformats will perhaps have the biggest impact on expanding the adoption and support of microformats.
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**[http://www.avfc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/Fixtures/ Aston Villa]
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**[http://www.wba.premiumtv.co.uk/page/Fixtures/ West Bromwich Albion]
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* [[blogging-tools-advocacy]]
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*** Requested by e-mail, 2006-11-13 [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]
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****"webmaster@" bounced. [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]
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* postlets.com - which crossposs to craigslist.com and other classifieds services. If they generated span+a microformats (which apparently survive posting into Craigstlist posting), the posters could get postings in hCard without any additional work.
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====Concert/ Theatre Listings====
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== web agencies ==
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More and more [[web-agencies]] are supporting microformats both on their own sites and on sites they build.
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*[http://www.birmingham-alive.com/ Birmingham Alive!] (UK)
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====Travel Industry====
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Getting more web design, development, etc. agencies and related efforts to adopt microformats also has the indirect benefit of them supporting microformats in the sites they build and develop.
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any travel site is based on calender type data!
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Airlines, Hotels etc.
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Sure it will be nice to get your reservation confirmation, but what about suppliers "syndicating" their product details that are calendar based? This would allow any other to mash-up supplier offerings.
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Sorry no examples... but I hope this will stimulate others to add some if the know them or just to make others think about possibilities.  
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====iCal Share====
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*[http://www.icalshare.com/ iCal share]
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* [[web-agencies]] page
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**Requested by e-mail. 2007-01-14
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***Reply recieved 2007-10-14 (!) confirming "definite plans to support microformats in the future". [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]
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==== Event-sites ====
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Sites that host online calendars of different sorts, containing information from many different areas. (These could also make use of hCard, since they often contain contact information to a lot of different places.)
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<span id="Various">In general add such sites to the page for the primary microformat which would benefit from the sites' support. See above.</span>
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* http://alltomstockholm.se A (Swedish) site that hosts information about concerts, pubs, movies, theater, etc in Stockholm (Swedens capital).
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* http://www.alltomgoteborg.se A (Swedish) site that hosts information about concerts, pubs, movies, theater, etc in Gothenburg (Swedens second largest city).
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* http://www.alltommalmo.se A (Swedish) site that hosts information about concerts, pubs, movies, theater, etc in Malmö (Swedens third largest city).
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* [http://www.ticketmaster.co.uk/ Ticket Master] (main UK ticket agency)
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**Requested by e-mail, 2007-09-03 [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]
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[[hreview|hReview]] could be used on these sites:
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*[http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/ E-petitions] (in draft, and asking for suggested improvements}
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** Requested by e-mail, 2006-12-01 [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]] 11:48, 1 Dec 2006 (PST)
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*** reply: "I've added it to our list of ideas." 2006-12-04 [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]] 11:08, 4 Dec 2006 (PST)
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* http://www.winelifetoday.com/
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* [http://www.imdb.com/ Internet Movie Database] (IMDb) for film reviews, e.g. [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0049291/ The Harder They Fall ]. [[User:AndyMabbett|AndyMabbett]] 02:49, 13 Nov 2006 (PST)
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**Can't find contact info! [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]
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* [http://www.dpreview.com/ Digital Photography Review]
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** Requested by feedback form, 2007-01-18. [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]
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* [http://www.steves-digicams.com/ Steve's Digicams]
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** Requested by e-mail, 2007-01-18. [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]
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* [http://www.librarything.com/ LibraryThing]
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* [http://www.summize.com/ Summize]
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* [http://www.listal.com/ Listal] for all reviews including [http://www.listal.com/reviews/books/1/books books].
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** Requested a "rating" note-type which would produce hReview markup (see comment by pownce.com/t [http://pownce.com/leahculver/notes/621117/ in this thread]) [[User:Tantek|Tantek]] 13:12, 3 Sep 2007 (PDT)
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**[http://suggestions.yahoo.com/detail/?prop=upcoming&fid=14362 Repeated on new suggestion board]. 2007-03-30. '''Please vote for this suggestion''' [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]
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*[http://www.genuki.org.uk/cgi-bin/places GENUKI Gazetteer] (UK & Ireland) e.g. [http://www.genuki.org.uk/cgi-bin/maplink?CCC=STS,GR=SP040940,PLACE=Great%20Barr]
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*[http://www.globalmotion.com/wiki/Main_Page GlobalMotion]
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** [http://www.tierrawiki.org/wiki/index.php/TierraWiki_talk:Community_Portal Requested on TerraWiki Community Portal] 2007-10-02 [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]
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**'''Requested''' by feedback form, 2006-12-05. [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]
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** '''Requested''' 2007-08-31; received only a generic boilerplate reply. '''Does anyone have a direct contact there?''' [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]
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* Various [http://www.mysociety.org/projects MySociety sites]
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* [http://www.heavens-above.com/ Heavens Above]
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* <span id="Foodbuzz">[http://www.foodbuzz.com/ Foodbuzz]</span> - a food, restaurant review, afficionado site
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** ... all '''Requested''' in person to site founder Scott Thorpe at [http://upcoming.yahoo.com/event/270906 SuperHappyDevHouse 20] [[User:Tantek|Tantek]] 21:18, 13 Oct 2007 (PDT)
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*[http://www.theregister.co.uk/ The Register] (UK)
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**[http://www.microsoft-watch.com/ Microsoft Watch]
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**[http://www.extremetech.com/ Extreme Tech]
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**[http://www.webbuyersguide.com/ Web Buyer's Guide]
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* [http://www.netmag.co.uk .Net magazine (UK)] (issue dated December 2006, has tutorial on microformats, by Rachel Andrew)
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**'''Requested''' by e-mail, 2007-01-06. [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]
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*[http://www.vivabit.com/atmedia2007/ AtMedia2007]
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**'''Requested''' via feedback form, 2007-01-18. [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]
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**Are using hCard, but will not use hCalendar, saying: "There are aspects of hCalendar that we are not happy using in this situation [...] It surrounds the use of the abbr element, particularly surrounding times in a table cell (the schedule will be slotted into a table once it is ready)." 2007-01-20. [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]
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== Adding Microformats to Applications ==
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===Browsers===
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*The [http://conlan89.googlepages.com/linkalert LinkAlert] extension could signal when a link is marked as a tag (likewise for other "rel" attributes). [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]
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* First reference to "microformats" in the [http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=169975&t=1166045417&page=1#comment1851680 Opera forums]. 2006-12-13 [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]
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*[http://www.operamini.com/ Opera Mini] (and other browsers on telephones) could especially benefit from recognising the "tel" attributes of hCard, and allowing users to dial numbers found on-line.
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**[http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=169978 Proposed on forum] 2006-12-13 [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]
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* We've been looking into Microformats for a while, and we are in the process of rolling out Microformats support on [http://my.opera.com/ My Opera] and [http://dev.opera.com/ Dev Opera].  Feel free to contact me with any additional suggestions of what you'd like to see. - [[User:DStorey|David Storey]]
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===Screenreaders===
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*Screenreaders (e.g [http://www.freedomscientific.com/fs_products/software_jaws.asp Jaws]) could recognise telephone number components of hCards, to differentiate them from other strings of digits. [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]] 13:02, 9 Dec 2006 (PST)
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** Additional to this, I believe that screen reader users would benefit from being able to recognise any of the microformats.  For example, there is value in being verbally notified that a page contains "1 contact and 3 events", or being able to seek out rel attributes with help values. [[User:Phae|Frances Berriman]]
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===Publishing Platforms===
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====Blogger====
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* Chris Messina is [http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2006/09/02/on-open-letter-to-blogger/ advocating more support in Blogger]
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====Drupal====
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*There's a Drupal group for discussing/advocating/implementing [http://groups.drupal.org/microformats-in-drupal microformats in Drupal]
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I am attempting to find out how best to incorporate microformats into the posting system, now that the programmers have removed XHTML from the posting interface. [http://www.phpbb.com/community/viewtopic.php?f=64&t=577689 I've posted wrt this topic] in the official forum; no response as of right now. --[[User:CarlaHufstedler|Carla]] 17:08, 8 Sep 2007 (PDT)
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*[http://plone.org/ Plone] is an Open Source Content Management System ([http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plone_(content_management_system) Plone on Wikipedia]).
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**[http://dev.plone.org/plone/ticket/5351 Plone feature request for rel-tag]
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**[http://dev.plone.org/plone/ticket/6050 Plone feature request for microformats], submitted 2007-01-06 [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]
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** [http://sourceforge.net/projects/semediawiki/ Sourceforge project page]
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** [http://discoursedb.org/SemanticForms/ Semantic Forms homepage]
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* MediaWiki category: [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Category:Data_extraction_extensions Data extraction extensions]
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== Adding Microformats to Web Services ==
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===30Boxes===
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*[http://30boxes.com/ 30Boxes] could accept a URL, parse the page for hCalendar microformats, then present a list to the user. These could be selected (via check-boxes) and uploaded. [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]] 13:41, 14 Jan 2007 (PST)
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**[http://30boxes.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=8289#8289 Upload of hCalendars requested on 30Boxes forum] 2007-01-14
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===ClearForest===
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*[http://sws.clearforest.com/ ClearForest Semantic Web Services ] - uses natural language processing tools to recognise people, organisations, places, events and CVs (resumes) in web pages. Would benefit from recognising hCard, hResume, hCalendar, Geo, Adr, etc. Could also use them in its output. [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]] 05:09, 6 Dec 2006 (PST)
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=== [http://ma.gnolia.com ma.gnolia] ===
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=== Magnolia ===
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[http://ma.gnolia.com ma.gnolia] supports many microformats. These should all be incorporated into the [[examples-in-the-wild]] pages for each specific microformat.
* [http://wiki.ma.gnolia.com/Microformat_Feature_Requests Microformat Feature Requests on ma.gnolia wiki]
* [http://wiki.ma.gnolia.com/Microformat_Feature_Requests Microformat Feature Requests on ma.gnolia wiki]
* {{SuccessMarker}} [http://ma.gnolia.com ma.gnolia] is implementing semantic features and microformats quickly. Here's a screenshot of my ma.gnolia page, and the Firefox [https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/4106 Operator extension]'s response to its code. Shiny. :) --[[User:CarlaHufstedler|Carla]] 10:30, 1 Sep 2007 (PDT)<br />
* {{SuccessMarker}} [http://ma.gnolia.com ma.gnolia] is implementing semantic features and microformats quickly. Here's a screenshot of my ma.gnolia page, and the Firefox [https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/4106 Operator extension]'s response to its code. Shiny. :) --[[User:CarlaHufstedler|Carla]] 10:30, 1 Sep 2007 (PDT)<br />
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* {{SuccessMarker}} added a [http://wiki.ma.gnolia.com/Category:Microformats microformats category] to the ma.gnolia wiki, with information, and then added it to appropriate pages --[[User:CarlaHufstedler|Carla]] 10:37, 3 Sep 2007 (PDT)
* {{SuccessMarker}} added a [http://wiki.ma.gnolia.com/Category:Microformats microformats category] to the ma.gnolia wiki, with information, and then added it to appropriate pages --[[User:CarlaHufstedler|Carla]] 10:37, 3 Sep 2007 (PDT)
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=== OpenStreetMap ===
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*[http://upcoming.org/ Upcoming] could accept a URL, parse the page for hCalendar microformats, then present a list to the user. These could be selected (via check-boxes) and uploaded. [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]
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* I've just added Geo to OpenStreetMap documentation pages - see [http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Birmingham Birmingham page on OpenStreetMap] for example. [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]] 02:39, 6 Apr 2007 (PDT)
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* [http://www.openstreetmap.org OpenStreetMap] uses the geo microformat on its wiki for place pages (added by [http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/User:Pigsonthewing Andy Mabbett]) and also on the GPS trace pages and diary entry pages ([http://www.dankarran.com/blog/archives/2007/09/04/pinpoint_your_openstreetmap_diary_entries.php added] by [http://www.dankarran.com Dan Karran]).
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=== Wikipedia ===
For successes on Wikipedia, see the list of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Templates_generating_microformats Wikipedia templates generating microformats].
For successes on Wikipedia, see the list of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Templates_generating_microformats Wikipedia templates generating microformats].
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** Requested by e-mail [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]
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*[http://www.birderslibrary.com/ The Birder's Library]
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*Wikitravel
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*[http://www.poi66.com/ POI66]
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**Requested by e-mail, 2007-03-23 [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]
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*[http://www.geograph.org.uk Geograph British Isles]
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**Requested by feedback form, 2007-03-26 [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]
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** over '''370,000''' examples, within 30 minutes of request being submitted!
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*[http://www.addressfix.com/ AddressFix]
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**GIS-Wiki's "[http://www.giswiki.org/hjl_get_CoorE.htm hjl_getCoor]" now outputs Geo markup, from a Google Maps API.
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*[http://gc.kls2.com/ Great Circle Mapper] ("GCM"; e.g. [http://tinyurl.com/yugscj sample GCM trip], [http://gc.kls2.com/airport/BHX BHX on GCM])
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== Comparisons With Alternative Approaches ==
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*Wikipedia-IT now has Geo on all  [http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speciale:PuntanoQui/Template:Coord pages using the ''coord'' template], e.g. [http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messina Messina]. [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]] 07:05, 26 May 2007 (PDT)
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*I've added geo to [http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Whatlinkshere/Template:Location_dec_US all images tagged in Wikimedia Commons] using decimal values. Example: [http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Montreal_City_Hall_Jan_2006.jpg Montreal City Hall, Jan 2006]  [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]] 08:54, 12 Apr 2007 (PDT)
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**Now on pages tagged in D-M-S also.
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* Wikipedia-NL now has Geo on all its map-links pages, e.g. [http://www.nsesoftware.nl/wiki/maps.asp?params=52_28_47_N_1_53_51_W_type:city_region:GB&src=Birmingham_%28Engeland%29 maps for Wikipedia-NL article on Birmingham]
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**Called from '''87,724''' article pages as of 2006-04-09; reportedly the sixth most popular website in the Netherlands [http://www.multiscope.nl/organisatie/nieuws/sberichten/nederlandse-wikipedia-groeit-als-kool.html].
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* I recently added Geo to Wikipedia-DE's map link pages  e.g. [http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?language=de&params=52_28_47_N_1_53_51_W_type:city_region:GB maps for Wikipedia-DE article on Birmingham]. [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]] 14:27, 9 Apr 2007 (PDT)
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====Mailing List Threads====
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* I've [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template%3AGeoTemplate&diff=119003866&oldid=118216477 just added] Geo to Wikipedia's [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:GeoTemplate GeoTemplate] which is called by '''many thousands''' of other Wikipedia pages. Example: the coordinates (top right) in [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Barr] link to [http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=52.54833_N_1.93212_W_region:GB_source:enwiki-osgb36(SP047945)]; the latter now has a Geo microformat. [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]] 03:38, 30 Mar 2007 (PDT)
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* [http://microformats.org/discuss/mail/microformats-discuss/2006-October/006584.html Microformats vs. CalDAV?] October 2006
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=== Microsoft Exchange Server ===
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These sites have shown no activity for 6 months or more and thus are perhaps not worth the effort.
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*<span id="ClearForest">[http://sws.clearforest.com/ ClearForest Semantic Web Services ]</span> - uses natural language processing tools to recognise people, organisations, places, events and CVs (resumes) in web pages. Would benefit from recognising hCard, hResume, hCalendar, Geo, Adr, etc. Could also use them in its output.
== See Also ==
== See Also ==

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A lot can be done to help advocate the use of microformats. Often, simply by taking an existing site, and adding the suggested microformatting to a few of its pages as examples is all that is necessary to help the developers of the site add the microformats to the site itself. Applications, such as browsers, could also use some guidance on how to best support microformats.

Sometimes advocacy requires comparison and analysis of alternative technologies or approaches. As Mike Schinkel pointed out, we need good answers to comments like "No, we're going to use XYZ instead...".

The goal for this page is to include pointers for how to advocate microformats on new sites and on existing sites that are considering or using alternative approaches, as well as applications that can benefit from supporting microformats.

For general resources for marketing microformats, see spread-microformats.

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Adding microformats to Existing Sites

Add sites here that you think would benefit from the addition of microformats. For now they are grouped by the microformat which would primarily benefit the site. Feel free to take a look at some of the sites on this list, document sample pages to be microformatted, add microformats to them, and then add the before/after of the key sections of mark-up to another wiki page for that site.

Successes are also noted; the most recent are flagged as Success!.

If your successes resulted from emails that you sent to site owners/developers, please consider sharing your successful advocacy emails on the advocacy-email-samples page, and along with each email sample, list the sites which responded positively to your email. This way others in the community can learn from your success and hopefully use your email samples to contact additional sites and get them to adopt microformats.

organization

For now this section is organized primarily by microformat, as that's easier for the community to document and keep track of.

However, it may be more useful to publishers if we created another section organized by type of site.

E.g.:

etc.

by microformat

h-entry

browsers

Browser support of microformats, both built-in, and via plug-ins and extension helps users make better use of the numerous existing sites that have microformats support, as well as encourage sites and site developers to add microformats support.

See browser-advocacy.

publishing tools

Getting publishing tools adopt microformats will perhaps have the biggest impact on expanding the adoption and support of microformats. See cms for current publishing platform support.

Others:

web agencies

More and more web-agencies are supporting microformats both on their own sites and on sites they build.

Getting more web design, development, etc. agencies and related efforts to adopt microformats also has the indirect benefit of them supporting microformats in the sites they build and develop.

If you are a strong and vocal supporter of microformats in your work, please feel free to add yourself to the

multiple microformats

In general add such sites to the page for the primary microformat which would benefit from the sites' support. See above.

successes

Magnolia

ma.gnolia supports many microformats. These should all be incorporated into the examples-in-the-wild pages for each specific microformat.

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OpenStreetMap

Wikipedia

For successes on Wikipedia, see the list of Wikipedia templates generating microformats.

See also the individual microformats advocacy pages for specific microformat successes.

Specifics:

Geo on Wikipedia:

old

These sites have shown no activity for 6 months or more and thus are perhaps not worth the effort.

See Also

Advocacy was last modified: Sunday, September 22nd, 2013

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