haudio-issues

hAudio issues

These are externally raised issues about hAudio with broadly varying degrees of merit. Thus some issues are rejected for a number of obvious reasons (but still documented here in case they are re-raised), and others contain longer discussions. Some issues may be accepted and perhaps cause changes or improved explanations in the spec.

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2008

D1: 2008-01-10 Contributor

• open issue! D1: 2008-01-10 raised by Andy Mabbett in microformats-discuss/2008-January/011340.html

• 1. the wording about contributor could be improved to facilitate more streamlined mark-up (see above e-mail for details).
     • A resolution to this issue is outlined in this email http://microformats.org/discuss/mail/microformats-new/2008-August/001725.html

D2: 2008-01-10 Overloading "fn".

• open issue! D2: 2008-01-10 raised by Andy Mabbett in [1]

• 1. The "overloading" of fn for both the tile of a work and the name of a contributor causes problems (see above e-mail for examples). Another example of this problem is a table, where the "artist" column comes before the "title" column. For discussion, see also microformats-new/2008-January/001375.html.
     • Manu Sporny has propsosed that "fn" should be replaced with "title" see: microformats-new/2008-February/001468.html
     • Martin McEvoy later propsosed that "title" should be replaced with "htitle" see: microformats-new/2008-August/001692.html

D3: 2008-01-10 Position.

• open issue! D3: 2008-01-10 raised by Andy Mabbett in microformats-discuss/2008-January/011343.html

• 1. The recommended use of "position" in hAudio is contrary to the good practice, semantic use of ordered lists (see example and suggested solution in the above e-mail; also [2] et seq)
     • For Cognition I'm considering an extension: if no position has been explicitly marked up, and the item is <li class="item"> within an ordered list, then the position is taken to be the numerical value of the list marker. (To calculate the numerical value for the list marker, find the most recent sibling <li> element which has a value attribute. The numerical value is the number in that value attribute added to the count of <li> elements after that value attribute up to the current one. If there are no such <li> elements with value attributes, then you should assume that the value attribute of the first list item is equal to the start attribute of the ordered list itself, or "1" if there is no such start attribute. TobyInk 04:24, 29 Jul 2008 (PDT)
     • Martin McEvoy has recommended that this issue be marked as Closed as it was resolved in this email: ( http://microformats.org/discuss/mail/microformats-new/2008-August/001707.html)

D4: 2008-01-10 rel-enclosure does not allow for links to streaming files

• open issue! D4: 2008-01-10 raised by Andy Mabbett in microformats-discuss/2008-January/011344.html

• 1. The required use of rel-enclosure does not allow for links to streaming files, which are not cacheable, and are thus outside the scope of rel-enclosure. An example on the BBC website has the relevant link is below the heading "LISTEN AGAIN". (see discussion at microformats-new/2008-January/001339.html et seq).
     • A proposal for this issue was first made in this email http://microformats.org/discuss/mail/microformats-new/2008-August/001715.html
     • A second proposal for this issue has been made in this email http://microformats.org/discuss/mail/microformats-new/2008-August/001727.html

D5: 2008-01-10 there is no way of linking to an interim page

• open issue! D5: 2008-01-10 raised by Andy Mabbett in microformats-discuss/2008-January/011344.html

• 1. There appears to be no mechanism to mark up an hAudio, expressed in plain text on page A, which links to an interim page, B, which in turn links to a file download. For example, the radio shows listed on [3].

D6: 2008-01-10 hAudio notes inconsistency

• resolved issue D6: 2008-01-10 raised by Andy Mabbett in microformats-discuss/2008-January/011345.html

• 1. The "Notes" section of the hAudio spec says "By marking up audio content with the hAudio microformat, the expectation is communicated that information about the content MAY be indexed. This has no impact on the copyright of the content itself which the publisher may explicitly specify using rel-license as specified above.". However, that is the first and only reference to rel-license on the page.
     • Typing error changed to "By marking up audio content with the hAudio microformat, the expectation is communicated that information about the content MAY be indexed. This has no impact on the copyright of the content itself which the publisher may explicitly specify using the rel-license microformat". [4]
     • hAudio Specification SHOULD include the rel-license microformat Martin McEvoy 11:57, 18 Aug 2008 (GMT)
     • A proposed resolution to this issue has been made in this email http://microformats.org/discuss/mail/microformats-new/2008-August/001720.html
  2. RESOLVED rel="licence" is not part of this version of hAudio (0.9) see:http://microformats.org/discuss/mail/microformats-new/2008-August/001747.html

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see also

• audio-info-issues

related pages

• hAudio
• hAudio cheatsheet - hAudio properties.
• hAudio authoring - learn how to add hAudio markup to your existing web pages.
• hAudio issues - issues with the specification.
  • Audio info issues - issues with the preparatory work.
• hAudio brainstorming - ideas for the specification.
• hAudio-history - the history of the research and development of hAudio.